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I hate red flags. ***SPOILER***

Post by Joseph Ho » Tue, 02 Apr 1996 04:00:00


The subject line says it all. My question is this: If they got lights at
the track, and they can, essentially, "wait all night" to get the race in,
whyohwhyohWHY did they call it? I wasn't tuned to the four-letter network
for the announcement, so I don't know how long they waited. Wonder if this
was a capitulation to the fact that if they kept waiting, ESPN wouldn't
show the end of the race? OR did they just want to keep from having a
repeat of what happened last year at the night race (you DO remember how
TL's car looked going into victory lane, right?).

Anyways, I have a suggestion this week, Mark - the race only went what,
360 out of 500 laps? Thus, give ol' Gordo only 0.72 points (or whatever)
for winning the shortened race. Shouldn't give the boy credit for winning
a *whole* race, now, should we? ;)

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Post by Orlando Teixei » Tue, 02 Apr 1996 04:00:00

: The subject line says it all. My question is this: If they got lights at
: the track, and they can, essentially, "wait all night" to get the race in,
: whyohwhyohWHY did they call it? I wasn't tuned to the four-letter network
: for the announcement, so I don't know how long they waited. Wonder if this
: was a capitulation to the fact that if they kept waiting, ESPN wouldn't
: show the end of the race? OR did they just want to keep from having a
: repeat of what happened last year at the night race (you DO remember how
: TL's car looked going into victory lane, right?).

: Anyways, I have a suggestion this week, Mark - the race only went what,
: 360 out of 500 laps? Thus, give ol' Gordo only 0.72 points (or whatever)
: for winning the shortened race. Shouldn't give the boy credit for winning
: a *whole* race, now, should we? ;)
Joe,

        Does this mean EVERYONE gets .72 x (their point total), basically
making what you said regardless (except that it effect's the end of the
year points, i guess), or do you just have it in for JG??????

Orlando

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Post by Jody L. Mino » Tue, 02 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> The subject line says it all. My question is this: If they got lights at
> the track, and they can, essentially, "wait all night" to get the race in,
> whyohwhyohWHY did they call it? I wasn't tuned to the four-letter network
> for the announcement, so I don't know how long they waited. Wonder if this
> was a capitulation to the fact that if they kept waiting, ESPN wouldn't
> show the end of the race? OR did they just want to keep from having a
> repeat of what happened last year at the night race (you DO remember how
> TL's car looked going into victory lane, right?).

> Anyways, I have a suggestion this week, Mark - the race only went what,
> 360 out of 500 laps? Thus, give ol' Gordo only 0.72 points (or whatever)
> for winning the shortened race. Shouldn't give the boy credit for winning
> a *whole* race, now, should we? ;)

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ESPN may have been assuming that NASCAR would wait all night long
since the track has lights...but I don't think NASCAR ever said they
would wait "all night".  Suppose it was 10:00 pm before it stopped
raining.  Did anyone really expect to continue a race at 10 or 11 at
night (if necessary)?  

Oh, yeah...ol' Gordo deserved every point he got. Right, Scoob? :)

Jody

 
 
 

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Post by Djbany » Tue, 02 Apr 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>The subject line says it all. My question is this: If they got lights at
>the track, and they can, essentially, "wait all night" to get the race
in,
>whyohwhyohWHY did they call it? I wasn't tuned to the four-letter network
>for the announcement, so I don't know how long they waited. Wonder if
this
>was a capitulation to the fact that if they kept waiting, ESPN wouldn't
>show the end of the race? OR did they just want to keep from having a
>repeat of what happened last year at the night race (you DO remember how
>TL's car looked going into victory lane, right?).

This is one of the few things that f1 has over WC racing.  A monsoon
rainstorm came down about a halfhour before the Brazilian Grand Prix
yesterday.  So they slapped on rain tires and ran the darn race.
Not an exciting race by any stretch (since the rain stopped and that
fool Damon Hill won) but they don't let any little bit of rain (and it was
NOT a little bit) stop them from running.

Daniel
Rusty!

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Post by Kimberly Hullfi » Tue, 02 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


>: Anyways, I have a suggestion this week, Mark - the race only went what,
>: 360 out of 500 laps? Thus, give ol' Gordo only 0.72 points (or whatever)
>: for winning the shortened race. Shouldn't give the boy credit for winning
>: a *whole* race, now, should we? ;)
>Joe,

>    Does this mean EVERYONE gets .72 x (their point total), basically
>making what you said regardless (except that it effect's the end of the
>year points, i guess), or do you just have it in for JG??????

>Orlando

Why pick on Gordon?  Every driver finished in a position that could have
been better or worse than where they would have finished if hte race had
gone all 500.  Prime example:  Darrel Waltrip.  He didn't finish
anywhere's near the number of laps down that he would have, and thus
earned more points than he "should have."  So don't flame Jeff for
winning the race, or any other driver for their final position.
Kimberly
 
 
 

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Post by Scoobie » Tue, 02 Apr 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>ESPN may have been assuming that NASCAR would wait all night long
>since the track has lights...but I don't think NASCAR ever said they
>would wait "all night".  Suppose it was 10:00 pm before it stopped
>raining.  Did anyone really expect to continue a race at 10 or 11 at
>night (if necessary)?  

>Oh, yeah...ol' Gordo deserved every point he got. Right, Scoob? :)

>Jody

Without a doubt  : )

However I must say that if the race had concluded, the last 10 laps would
have been one hell of a dog fight.  It would have been fun.

Scoob
====================

#24    #3    (in that order)

 
 
 

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Post by Joseph Ho » Tue, 02 Apr 1996 04:00:00

-> Joe,
->
->         Does this mean EVERYONE gets .72 x (their point total), basically
-> making what you said regardless (except that it effect's the end of the
-> year points, i guess), or do you just have it in for JG??????

Actually, what I meant was, since the race was only .684 over (342 laps
divided by 500 laps equals .684), Jeffy and everyone else should only get
credit for 0.684 * finish points. In Jeffy's case, 0.684. In Ted
Musgrave's case, 17.1 (instead of 25th).

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Post by P. Campbe » Wed, 03 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>The subject line says it all. My question is this: If they got lights at
>the track, and they can, essentially, "wait all night" to get the race in,
>whyohwhyohWHY did they call it? I wasn't tuned to the four-letter network
>for the announcement, so I don't know how long they waited. Wonder if this
>was a capitulation to the fact that if they kept waiting, ESPN wouldn't
>show the end of the race? OR did they just want to keep from having a
>repeat of what happened last year at the night race (you DO remember how
>TL's car looked going into victory lane, right?).

As much as I hated to see it end like that (since DJ appeared to have a car
that could beat Gordon), NASCAR made the right call.  Most of the fans had
left anyway, and if I were a driver, I sure wouldn't want to wait 4 or 5 more
hours just to finish the thing.

One other note, whatever happened to DW's car, NASCAR needs to take a SERIOUS
look at it.  That gas should've never spilled out like that.  

Pat

P.S.--Someone also needs to tell Bob Jenkins that you can't DILUTE gasoline
with water.  You can wash it away, but you can't dilute it.

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Post by Brent Gra » Wed, 03 Apr 1996 04:00:00

-snip-

Quote:
>: Anyways, I have a suggestion this week, Mark - the race only went what,
>: 360 out of 500 laps? Thus, give ol' Gordo only 0.72 points (or whatever)
>: for winning the shortened race. Shouldn't give the boy credit for winning
>: a *whole* race, now, should we? ;)
>Joe,
>    Does this mean EVERYONE gets .72 x (their point total), basically
>making what you said regardless (except that it effect's the end of the
>year points, i guess), or do you just have it in for JG??????
>Orlando

Good Point.  But there is some validity to Orlando's thoughts. The
race was NOT completed (okay maybe technically it was) so I am not
sure that JG actually be given FULL credit for the win.  A reduction
in the purse payout isn't the answer either..... hmmmmm what then?

--Brent

(waitin' on the Brickyard....)

 
 
 

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Post by Daniel P Huds » Wed, 03 Apr 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>The subject line says it all. My question is this: If they got lights at
>the track, and they can, essentially, "wait all night" to get the race in,
>whyohwhyohWHY did they call it? I wasn't tuned to the four-letter network

 1.) Rain was predicted well into the next day, IE there wasn't going to
     be a dry track until sometime the NEXT day.

 2.) Dale Earnhardt, Rusty Wallace, and several Nascar officials were
     leaving for Japan the next morning to do track tests, ect.. for
     the Nascar race being held there.

 3.) Thunderstorms were also expected, having a fan struck by lightning
     or an official, ect.. didn't sound like a good idea.

 4.) The drivers were expecting a race during the day, waiting until
     night and then running could have very well spelled disaster from
     tired and fatigued drivers.

Quote:
>for the announcement, so I don't know how long they waited. Wonder if this
>was a capitulation to the fact that if they kept waiting, ESPN wouldn't
>show the end of the race? OR did they just want to keep from having a

 ESPN always replays the race during the week, Tuesday at 7:30pm for
 Bristol.

Quote:
>repeat of what happened last year at the night race (you DO remember how
>TL's car looked going into victory lane, right?).

 Not even a factor, they are still going to have a Bristol night race
 in the fall. The *night* had nothing to do with that, ahem, incident
 you are referring to, unless your referring to the dark color on a
 certain drivers #3 Chevy Monte Carlo as being 'night black' maybe.

 [ Illogical Jest about Jeff Gordon's win snipped. ]

 
 
 

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Post by KELLEY, AMY R » Fri, 05 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>The subject line says it all. My question is this: If they got lights at
>the track, and they can, essentially, "wait all night" to get the race in,
>whyohwhyohWHY did they call it? I wasn't tuned to the four-letter network
>for the announcement, so I don't know how long they waited. Wonder if this
>was a capitulation to the fact that if they kept waiting, ESPN wouldn't
>show the end of the race? OR did they just want to keep from having a
>repeat of what happened last year at the night race (you DO remember how
>TL's car looked going into victory lane, right?).

One look at the sky said that the rain wasn't EVER going to let up! I
agree that it was a pretty good call. I can't believe the generosity of
the local officials letting everyone park right off the highway this
year, though (although it took 50 minutes of walking!)

peace
Amy R. Kelley
touched by an Angel...