Mark Martin - What Gives????

Mark Martin - What Gives????

Post by Wayne Harp » Tue, 30 Jul 1996 04:00:00


I'm interested in other RASN'ers thoughts concerning
Mark Martin's pre-race interview on CBS.  He was doing
fine (typical interview drivel) up until he was asked
about how he'd like to see the race outcome -- or something
to that effect.  Anyway, Martin turns 'cold' and starts
into one rambling 'pity-party'.  Mark, it seems, cannot
stand either of his teammates.  Further, according to
Mark, nobody is loyal out on the track, and nobody except
Mark, Rusty, Earnhardt and Gordon use their heads out there.
If Mark manages to leave the track not mad, that'll be good.
What gives with this attitude?

I suppose Mark's season so far could be summed-up as follows:
'It's not my fault!!'    :(

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Mark Martin - What Gives????

Post by Ken Walla » Tue, 30 Jul 1996 04:00:00

: I'm interested in other RASN'ers thoughts concerning
: Mark Martin's pre-race interview on CBS.  He was doing
: fine (typical interview drivel) up until he was asked
: about how he'd like to see the race outcome -- or something
: to that effect.  Anyway, Martin turns 'cold' and starts
: into one rambling 'pity-party'.  Mark, it seems, cannot
: stand either of his teammates.  Further, according to
: Mark, nobody is loyal out on the track, and nobody except
: Mark, Rusty, Earnhardt and Gordon use their heads out there.
: If Mark manages to leave the track not mad, that'll be good.
: What gives with this attitude?

Well, I for one didn't read it that way. I read it, that he
"fears" the restrictor plate racing because of the terrible
accidents -- sure there are accidents at other tracks, but
very few at 190+ mph (in which someone could get seriously
injured). Heck -- don't most of the drivers have a wife and
kids and with all the recent deaths (at Toronto, Indy, etc) it
is probably on their minds.

I also didn't interpret the Rusty and Earnhardt comment as
"noboby except" them "uses their head". I interpreted that
comment as "when he drives around them, he knows what to
expect". It is the "unexpected manuevers" that cause problems.

As for teammates, I think most drivers will team up with anyone
to get to the front (teammate or not).

Just my $.02.

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Post by Will Doss » Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


>: I'm interested in other RASN'ers thoughts concerning
>: Mark Martin's pre-race interview on CBS.  He was doing
>: fine (typical interview drivel) up until he was asked
>: about how he'd like to see the race outcome -- or something
>: to that effect.  Anyway, Martin turns 'cold' and starts
>: into one rambling 'pity-party'.  Mark, it seems, cannot
>: stand either of his teammates.  Further, according to
>: Mark, nobody is loyal out on the track, and nobody except
>: Mark, Rusty, Earnhardt and Gordon use their heads out there.
>: If Mark manages to leave the track not mad, that'll be good.
>: What gives with this attitude?
>Well, I for one didn't read it that way. I read it, that he
>"fears" the restrictor plate racing because of the terrible
>accidents -- sure there are accidents at other tracks, but
>very few at 190+ mph (in which someone could get seriously
>injured). Heck -- don't most of the drivers have a wife and
>kids and with all the recent deaths (at Toronto, Indy, etc) it
>is probably on their minds.
>I also didn't interpret the Rusty and Earnhardt comment as
>"noboby except" them "uses their head". I interpreted that
>comment as "when he drives around them, he knows what to
>expect". It is the "unexpected manuevers" that cause problems.

I read that as a comment on the previous day's race -- he knows Rusty,
Jeff, etc., et al, but it's the unknowns (Tony Stewart who admitted
his error) that'll nail you.  I think he was being prophetic about
getting out of town without being injured.

Quote:
>As for teammates, I think most drivers will team up with anyone
>to get to the front (teammate or not).
>Just my $.02.

BTW -- wasn't it at Talledaga a few (ok, more than a few) years back
that MM darn near went airborne during a EI inspired wreck?  Seems
like I recall the 6 car doing a nose stand before returning to earth
right side up.  That's got to be burned in your memory.....

Will Dossel
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Post by Mark A. Brela » Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>No, Will was right.  Although I think he was thinking of '91, when
>Kyle Petty got T-boned.  Petty and Martin were racing, Irvan stuck his
>nose into the mess, and Martin's Folgers Ford went airborne, almost
>flipping.  Petty was sidelined for weeks with a fractured femur.

I'm thinking about the nosestand JSpencer did while in Bobby Allison's
#12 Meineke Ford.  Remember?  It was always in ESPN's Winston Cup
racing promo clips...

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Post by Tony Joh » Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00


shooting through ***space:

Quote:

>BTW -- wasn't it at Talledaga a few (ok, more than a few) years back
>that MM darn near went airborne during a EI inspired wreck?  Seems
>like I recall the 6 car doing a nose stand before returning to earth
>right side up.  That's got to be burned in your memory.....

I think if anyone has a right to be leery of Talladega, it's Mark
Martin.  With the exception of Rusty Wallace and possibly a couple of
others, NOBODY has had so many scary wrecks at that track in
succession.  During the Busch race, the comment was made that Martin
had never finished higher than 30th in a BGN 'Dega race thanks to
being wrecked.  In the past few years, apart from his spring win in
'94, he's had some pretty vicious wrecks.  Who could forget his 190mph
jaunt through the tri-oval infield?  And what about THIS spring,
getting pinched by Andretti into Gordon, and then getting his DRIVER'S
SIDE DOOR faced into 40 screaming stock cars heading at him at 190mph?

Face it guys -- NOBODY likes restrictor plate racing except people who
don't drive in them.  Mark has every right to dislike Talladega races
-- they're simply wrecks begging to happen.
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Post by Tony Joh » Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00


sent shooting through ***space:

Quote:


>>BTW -- wasn't it at Talledaga a few (ok, more than a few) years back
>>that MM darn near went airborne during a EI inspired wreck?  Seems
>>like I recall the 6 car doing a nose stand before returning to earth
>>right side up.  That's got to be burned in your memory.....

>That was JSpencer in '92, I believe.  I don't recall the instigating
>party (if there was one).

No, Will was right.  Although I think he was thinking of '91, when
Kyle Petty got T-boned.  Petty and Martin were racing, Irvan stuck his
nose into the mess, and Martin's Folgers Ford went airborne, almost
flipping.  Petty was sidelined for weeks with a fractured femur.
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Post by P. Campbe » Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Wow. It's not often that one gets the opportunity to correct O Great NASCAR
>Oracle Breland ;). Sorry, Mark, I think Will is right. MM did almost get airborne
>in that big wreck on the backstretch at Talledega instigated by Irvan in the
>4 car. Remember the pitcures from Rudd's in-car camera as he went under the rear end
>of MM's car? It was the last year MM was in the Folger's car (1991?). Anyway, it was
>just after that incident that EI apologized to everyone in driver's meeting for his
>over-aggresive driving style.

You're almost 100% correct Scott.  Mark, Scott (and Tony and Will) are
correct about that incident.  It was in the 1991 Winston 500, the one that
was run on a Monday, and won by Harry Gant (with a little push from Rick
Mast).  That crash led to the left side aero skirts, and the rear window
and decklid rails (which disappeared after the roof flaps came in).

But Scott, that was just one of EI's incidents that year.  The straw that
broke the camel's back occured at Pocono, one week prior to the DieHard
500.  That's when EI stood up and apologized to everyone.  Ironically, he
then went out and got wrecked by Buddy Baker (as did Rick Mast).  Some
days you can't win for losin'.

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Post by Scott Liljenquis » Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> >BTW -- wasn't it at Talledaga a few (ok, more than a few) years back
> >that MM darn near went airborne during a EI inspired wreck?  Seems
> >like I recall the 6 car doing a nose stand before returning to earth
> >right side up.  That's got to be burned in your memory.....

> That was JSpencer in '92, I believe.  I don't recall the instigating
> party (if there was one).

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Wow. It's not often that one gets the opportunity to correct O Great NASCAR
Oracle Breland ;). Sorry, Mark, I think Will is right. MM did almost get airborne
in that big wreck on the backstretch at Talledega instigated by Irvan in the
4 car. Remember the pitcures from Rudd's in-car camera as he went under the rear end
of MM's car? It was the last year MM was in the Folger's car (1991?). Anyway, it was
just after that incident that EI apologized to everyone in driver's meeting for his
over-aggresive driving style.

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Post by Mike Malon » Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>I'm interested in other RASN'ers thoughts concerning
>Mark Martin's pre-race interview on CBS.  He was doing
>fine (typical interview drivel) up until he was asked
>about how he'd like to see the race outcome -- or something
>to that effect.  Anyway, Martin turns 'cold' and starts
>into one rambling 'pity-party'.  Mark, it seems, cannot
>stand either of his teammates.  Further, according to
>Mark, nobody is loyal out on the track, and nobody except
>Mark, Rusty, Earnhardt and Gordon use their heads out there.
>If Mark manages to leave the track not mad, that'll be good.
>What gives with this attitude?

I think Marks response was mainly due to the fact that he has been the innocent
bystander in the past few races and has never had a chance to run the full
race. He wants badly to finish good at Talledega, and with the luck he has had
there combined with the bad luck he had last week at Pocono I can understand
why he is upset.

Mike

 
 
 

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Post by Mark A. Brela » Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Wow. It's not often that one gets the opportunity to correct O Great NASCAR
>Oracle Breland ;). Sorry, Mark, I think Will is right. MM did almost get airborne
>in that big wreck on the backstretch at Talledega instigated by Irvan in the
>4 car. Remember the pitcures from Rudd's in-car camera as he went under the rear end
>of MM's car? It was the last year MM was in the Folger's car (1991?). Anyway, it was
>just after that incident that EI apologized to everyone in driver's meeting for his
>over-aggresive driving style.

:)  Gold stars to all on this one!  But hey...I was remembering JSoencer's
nosestand in the #12 Meineke Ford, not necessarily the KP Broke Leg Games.

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Post by Mark A. Brela » Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>BTW -- wasn't it at Talledaga a few (ok, more than a few) years back
>that MM darn near went airborne during a EI inspired wreck?  Seems
>like I recall the 6 car doing a nose stand before returning to earth
>right side up.  That's got to be burned in your memory.....

That was JSpencer in '92, I believe.  I don't recall the instigating
party (if there was one).

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Post by Alan J. Claff » Thu, 01 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
>:)  Gold stars to all on this one!  But hey...I was remembering JSoencer's
>nosestand in the #12 Meineke Ford, not necessarily the KP Broke Leg Games.

Do I get a gold star if I correct you here by saying Jimmy Spencer's
airborne dance at Dega came in Travis Carter's #98 Moly Black Gold
Lumina?

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Post by Mark A. Brela » Thu, 01 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>>:)  Gold stars to all on this one!  But hey...I was remembering JSoencer's
>>nosestand in the #12 Meineke Ford, not necessarily the KP Broke Leg Games.

>Do I get a gold star if I correct you here by saying Jimmy Spencer's
>airborne dance at Dega came in Travis Carter's #98 Moly Black Gold
>Lumina?

Nah, you get wunnadem pearlescent ones...  ;)

Thanks for setting me straight!

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Post by Lou Laue » Thu, 01 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> >BTW -- wasn't it at Talledaga a few (ok, more than a few) years back
> >that MM darn near went airborne during a EI inspired wreck?  Seems
> >like I recall the 6 car doing a nose stand before returning to earth
> >right side up.  That's got to be burned in your memory.....

> That was JSpencer in '92, I believe.  I don't recall the instigating
> party (if there was one).

Actually Mark B., it was Mark M. also doing a nose stand at Talladega.
The year was 1990 (year of the great monsoon & Monday race) and it was
with the assistance of Ernie. I remember sitting in the stands with my
binouclars watching Mark come out of turn two. I lost him behind the
campers when suddenyl he appeared ABOVE the campers ! I remember thinking
"Mark , this is NOT a good thing you're doing" !

Spencer also did the head stand thingy a year or so later. He actually
drove away from his, albeit he probably now had a new ***cushion :-)

Lou "WOW !...I still had that brain cell!" Lauer

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