Why I'm Here and Why I'm Not Here

Why I'm Here and Why I'm Not Here

Post by H.B. Elki » Tue, 10 Jun 1997 04:00:00


It's sad but interesting, reading all the venom that's been spewing
around here lately. The amount of "noise" on this group has increased
greatly and it seems that the people who complain are being flamed to
the high heavens.

Let me tell you why this this NASCAR fan came to this newsgroup:

1.) To learn about the sport. To hear the rumors and the reports about
what happens off the track. No, not the "Gordon's a ***" rumors that
obviously don't have any basis in fact, but Silly Season rumors, track
date rumors, fines to drivers and crew chiefs, that sort of thing.

2.) To hear about the races. To find out who may have hit someone when
the TV didn't have a good camera angle (has anyone ever figured out
who hit Bill Elliott at 'Dega last year), to hear scanner soundbites
from the drivers and crews, and to get news on a lot of the
behind-the-scenes stuff that TV never shows and the announcers never
talk about.

3.) To ask questions and find out answers. Questions like, who got
into Geoff Bodine's rear at Dover and spun him? Where can you find
neckties with racing designs? In what business ventures are Earnhardt
and Gordon partners? That sort of thing...

4.) To read informed discussion about the sport. It's always fun to
watch a reasoned debate on who caused a wreck, but when that
discussion degenerates into mindless and blatant driver-bashing,
that's when I quit reading the thread.

5.) To discuss issues which are peripheral to the sport, but
nonetheless vital, such as tobacco sponsorship, Rusty Wallace's
comments about Clinton sticking it in Bristol's Victory Lane last
year, etc.

Those are the reasons I'm on this newsgroup.

I am NOT here to:

1.) Read mindless "Driver X sucks, no he doesn't, yes he does"
threads.

2.) See repeated accusations with no basis in fact, like "NASCAR is
fixed for Gordon" or "Ernie Irvan is a blind Cyclops and ought to be
banned" or "I hope Earnhardt ends up on his roof again." These
subjects are getting old in a hurry, and I don't read those subjects.

3.) See the flame wars that have broken out between people who are
genuinely interested in racing, and folks who obviously are here to
distrupt and troll us.

The amount of real racing information in r.a.s.n has declined
tremendously since I first started here, about a year ago. Thankfully
I have found some other sources of information thanks to some true
NASCAR fans who share my love of the sport and desire for good
information and informed discussion.

You may now return to your original programming...

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H.B. Elkins -- Winchester, KY
"You must have the courage to believe the truth!" -- Rush H. Limbaugh III
Kentucky Wildcats Basketball & #3 Dale Earnhardt -- A Championship Combination


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Why I'm Here and Why I'm Not Here

Post by H.B. Elki » Tue, 10 Jun 1997 04:00:00

One more thing....

I'm not here to read the frivolous use of profanity that clogs this
group. It doesn't necessarily offend me, but why gratuitously throw in
an f-word here or there when it's not necessary? You can get your
point across without resorting to profanity.

Scanner soundbites, OTOH, are an exception. The profanity adds
something there...
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"You must have the courage to believe the truth!" -- Rush H. Limbaugh III
Kentucky Wildcats Basketball & #3 Dale Earnhardt -- A Championship Combination


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Why I'm Here and Why I'm Not Here

Post by Jack Be » Tue, 10 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>It's sad but interesting, reading all the venom that's been spewing
>around here lately. The amount of "noise" on this group has increased
>greatly and it seems that the people who complain are being flamed to
>the high heavens.

>Let me tell you why this this NASCAR fan came to this newsgroup:

>1.) To learn about the sport. To hear the rumors and the reports about
>what happens off the track. No, not the "Gordon's a ***" rumors that
>obviously don't have any basis in fact, but Silly Season rumors, track
>date rumors, fines to drivers and crew chiefs, that sort of thing.

>2.) To hear about the races. To find out who may have hit someone when
>the TV didn't have a good camera angle (has anyone ever figured out
>who hit Bill Elliott at 'Dega last year), to hear scanner soundbites
>from the drivers and crews, and to get news on a lot of the
>behind-the-scenes stuff that TV never shows and the announcers never
>talk about.

>3.) To ask questions and find out answers. Questions like, who got
>into Geoff Bodine's rear at Dover and spun him? Where can you find
>neckties with racing designs? In what business ventures are Earnhardt
>and Gordon partners? That sort of thing...

>4.) To read informed discussion about the sport. It's always fun to
>watch a reasoned debate on who caused a wreck, but when that
>discussion degenerates into mindless and blatant driver-bashing,
>that's when I quit reading the thread.

>5.) To discuss issues which are peripheral to the sport, but
>nonetheless vital, such as tobacco sponsorship, Rusty Wallace's
>comments about Clinton sticking it in Bristol's Victory Lane last
>year, etc.

>Those are the reasons I'm on this newsgroup.

>I am NOT here to:

>1.) Read mindless "Driver X sucks, no he doesn't, yes he does"
>threads.

>2.) See repeated accusations with no basis in fact, like "NASCAR is
>fixed for Gordon" or "Ernie Irvan is a blind Cyclops and ought to be
>banned" or "I hope Earnhardt ends up on his roof again." These
>subjects are getting old in a hurry, and I don't read those subjects.

>3.) See the flame wars that have broken out between people who are
>genuinely interested in racing, and folks who obviously are here to
>distrupt and troll us.

>The amount of real racing information in r.a.s.n has declined
>tremendously since I first started here, about a year ago. Thankfully
>I have found some other sources of information thanks to some true
>NASCAR fans who share my love of the sport and desire for good
>information and informed discussion.

>You may now return to your original programming...

>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>H.B. Elkins -- Winchester, KY

  Amen, me too, right on and well said.

 
 
 

Why I'm Here and Why I'm Not Here

Post by H.B. Elki » Thu, 12 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>Could you please let me know where you found these other sources?  I, too,
>am tired of what this newsgroup has become and long for some actual
>information and discussion.

The AUTORACE mailing list. For info, go to
http://www.keyway.net/~cwatson/autorace.html

The NASCAR Fans mailing list, For info, go to
http://www.nascarfans.com/index.htm

Jayski's Silly Season page. For info, go to
http://www.intserv.com/~jayski/silly.html

Try those and see if you don't think the signal-to-noise ration is
much lower...

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H.B. Elkins -- Winchester, KY
"You must have the courage to believe the truth!" -- Rush H. Limbaugh III
Kentucky Wildcats Basketball & #3 Dale Earnhardt -- A Championship Combination


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