New Rule for Lucky Dog?

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by draymon » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:02:50


I read that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under yellow
can make only one pit stop. They can't come back on with 1 to go and top
off. This is the strategy that Ryan Newman used to win earlier.

What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make your
pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the 2-3
extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position.  What is
the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it has
to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

Dan

 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by Alan J. Claffi » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:10:12


Quote:
> What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your
> pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
2-3
> extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position.  What is
> the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it has
> to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

Someone will do this next week at Atlanta, and next Monday there will be a
new rule saying that the lucky dog recipient has to pit on the same lap as
the rest of the lapped cars, and the "work in progress" will continue until
someone finds another new way to find the unfair advantage in it, and that
will get fixed the next week, lather, rinse, repeat.

 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by 43fa » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:31:20


Quote:
> I read that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under yellow
> can make only one pit stop. They can't come back on with 1 to go and top
> off. This is the strategy that Ryan Newman used to win earlier.

That's even more stupid than the lucky dog rule itself.(way to go Nascar)
So, everyone else on the lead lap could pit as many times as they want, but
the guy who gets his lap back can't?

Quote:

> What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your
> pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
2-3
> extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position.  What is
> the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it has
> to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

> Dan


 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by 43fa » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:32:52



Quote:


> > What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
> your
> > pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
> 2-3
> > extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position.  What
is
> > the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it
has
> > to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

> Someone will do this next week at Atlanta, and next Monday there will be a
> new rule saying that the lucky dog recipient has to pit on the same lap as
> the rest of the lapped cars, and the "work in progress" will continue
until
> someone finds another new way to find the unfair advantage in it, and that
> will get fixed the next week, lather, rinse, repeat.

What unfair advantage?  Everyone has the same opportunity as the guy last on
the lead lap.  They can pit as many times as they want, whenever they
want(or could before this rule went into effect, if it did).   And they know
the same thing as the guy that got his lap back knows... the worst position
he can be in is last on the lead lap.  In fact, they know they'll be at
least one position better than that.

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New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by WildWease » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:53:21

"draymond" wrote ...

Quote:
> I read that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under yellow
> can make only one pit stop.

I'm hearing that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under
yellow actually needs to have a dog in the car for the rest of the race.
The dog will not be allowed to act as an in-car spotter unless it is a
spotted dog.
 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by Ms.Goodwrenc » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:47:55



Quote:

> "draymond" wrote ...
>> I read that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under
>> yellow can make only one pit stop.

> I'm hearing that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass
> under yellow actually needs to have a dog in the car for the rest of
> the race. The dog will not be allowed to act as an in-car spotter
> unless it is a spotted dog.

Will it be allowed to hang its head out the window?  Except at
Darlington, of course.
 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by WildWease » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:05:33

"Ms.Goodwrench" wrote ...

Quote:

> > I'm hearing that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass
> > under yellow actually needs to have a dog in the car for the rest of
> > the race. The dog will not be allowed to act as an in-car spotter
> > unless it is a spotted dog.

> Will it be allowed to hang its head out the window?  Except at
> Darlington, of course.

AB: What's on the windshield of the 24 car?
BP: Is something leaking out of the 7 car?  Could it be overheating?
WD:  Benny, you big dummy, that's slobber from the lucky dog.
AB: The 24 REALLY needs to put the 7 back down a lap.
 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by NASCARWi » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:09:37

Quote:
>What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make your
>pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the 2-3
>extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position.  What is
>the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it has
>to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

>Dan

Once the Lucky Dog is announced they can not add fuel to the car.  They could
wait and pit late in the caution and change tires but if they add fuel they
will be penalized.  
 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by WildWease » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:35:01

"NASCARWife" wrote ...

Quote:
> >What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your
> >pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
2-3
> >extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position.  What is
> >the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it
has
> >to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

> >Dan

> Once the Lucky Dog is announced they can not add fuel to the car.  They
could
> wait and pit late in the caution and change tires but if they add fuel
they
> will be penalized.

I think the LD is bad enough, but to have LDstroke2003stroke10stroke19 as
amended  in Codicil 3.1.2 subsection 1 is just to freakin' much.

Can they check the battery?  Pull off a tear-off?  jeeez!

Throwing in a water bottle to the LD driver is approved so long as the said
bottle is not more than half full and does not contain ice.
   Amendment 1.  "ice" is to mean frozen water OR any other foreign cooling
substance or mechanism.
   Amendment 2. (the Newman Rule) the "water bottle" may not contain fuel,
gas or any other propellant.

 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by 43fa » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:49:09


Quote:
> >What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your
> >pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
2-3
> >extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position.  What is
> >the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it
has
> >to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

> >Dan

> Once the Lucky Dog is announced they can not add fuel to the car.  They
could
> wait and pit late in the caution and change tires but if they add fuel
they
> will be penalized.

Like I said above, that's even more stupid than the giving of the lap back.
Everyone else on the track is allowed to add fuel to their car, but that guy
isn't? *LOL*  Ok... geez....
 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by Douglas BISHO » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:34:47


Quote:
> I read that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under yellow
> can make only one pit stop. They can't come back on with 1 to go and top
> off. This is the strategy that Ryan Newman used to win earlier.

> What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your
> pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
2-3
> extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position.  What is
> the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it has
> to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

> Dan

> Cause you don't get your free pass till the pit stop is done....

 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by Douglas BISHO » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:36:57



Quote:


> > What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
> your
> > pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get the
> 2-3
> > extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position.  What
is
> > the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop, and it
has
> > to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?

> Someone will do this next week at Atlanta, and next Monday there will be a
> new rule saying that the lucky dog recipient has to pit on the same lap as
> the rest of the lapped cars, and the "work in progress" will continue
until
> someone finds another new way to find the unfair advantage in it, and that
> will get fixed the next week, lather, rinse, repeat.

This is horse shit!  Are they going to tell the rest of th field that they
can't top off with one to go as well?  It's pretty common practice....so why
shouldn't the lucky dog get to do it?  He is at the end of the lead lap...
 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by Douglas BISHO » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:38:49


Quote:

> "draymond" wrote ...
> > I read that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under
yellow
> > can make only one pit stop.

> I'm hearing that from now on the person getting the lucky dog pass under
> yellow actually needs to have a dog in the car for the rest of the race.
> The dog will not be allowed to act as an in-car spotter unless it is a
> spotted dog.

So then what you're really saying is.....

This thread had it's origin under a bridge..... Right?

 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by Liz Colli » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:08:15

Re: New Rule for Lucky Dog?  

Group: rec.autos.sport.nascar Date: Mon, Oct 20, 2003, 11:36pm (EDT+4)




What I'm wondering though is this: why not just wait to 1 to go to make
your pit stop to begin with. You still only make one stop, you still get
the 2-3 extra miles of fuel, and you still have the same track position.
What is the point of the rule, unless it says you can make only 1 stop,
and it has to be on the first lap of yellow with the leaders?
Someone will do this next week at Atlanta, and next Monday there will be
a new rule saying that the lucky dog recipient has to pit on the same
lap as the rest of the lapped cars, and the "work in progress" will
continue until someone finds another new way to find the unfair
advantage in it, and that will get fixed the next week, lather, rinse,
repeat.
This is horse shit! Are they going to tell the rest of th field that
they can't top off with one to go as well? It's pretty common
practice....so why shouldn't the lucky dog get to do it? He is at the
end of the lead lap...

NASCAR claims " several drivers have delayed the restart by ducking into
the pits for a splash of gas and then being unable to take their new
position in a timely manner"
whatever.....

 
 
 

New Rule for Lucky Dog?

Post by Douglas BISHO » Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:02:20


NASCAR claims " several drivers have delayed the restart by ducking into
the pits for a splash of gas and then being unable to take their new
position in a timely manner"
whatever.....

Since when do they hold up a restart for a guy in the pits?  The LD gets his
pass after lappers first round of pit stops....(they often make
several)...he is already at the end of the field.