Blocking : Perhaps I am wrong ( and I usually am )

Blocking : Perhaps I am wrong ( and I usually am )

Post by I will turn out the lights , yawl take care of the door » Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:23:40


but isnt Blocking dangerous as hell ?   And at the end of race to get
a few more stinking points.....--- Risking a huge F**k up ?  What am I
missing here.
 
 
 

Blocking : Perhaps I am wrong ( and I usually am )

Post by will » Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:21:00

Blocking is important in NA$CAR, but that block was wrong.

 
 
 

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Post by John McCo » Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:39:43


Quote:
> but isnt Blocking dangerous as hell ?

Perhaps it escaped your notice, but pretty much everything about
racing is dangerous as hell.

John

 
 
 

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Post by I will turn out the lights , yawl take care of the door » Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:52:21


Quote:
> "I will turn out the lights , yawl take care of the doors" <mortone50


> > but isnt Blocking dangerous as hell ?

> Perhaps it escaped your notice, but pretty much everything about
> racing is dangerous as hell.

> John

  Good point .. but if they told em  ::""  DONT BLOCK ::  "  maybe
that would help.
 
 
 

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Post by Rod's SHA » Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:05:23



Quote:
> "I will turn out the lights , yawl take care of the doors" <mortone50


> > but isnt Blocking dangerous as hell ?

> Perhaps it escaped your notice, but pretty much everything about
> racing is dangerous as hell.

> John

  Good point .. but if they told em  ::""  DONT BLOCK ::  "  maybe
that would help.

This topic has been beat to death in here a few times. There seems to be this *** mindset in stock car racing that blocking is part of the game. Frankly, I think it's a contradiction when it comes to auto racing - but that's just MHO. The blocking thing reminds me of the good ole' Roller Derby Days (and watching it quickly wanes to thoughts of 'Amateur Hour'). F1 and Indy do not tolerate (intentional) blocking (for that matter ... neither does horse racing). NASCAR does .... and then drivers whine when they get 'moved' out of the way.

It just seems to me that the practice of blocking is equally as silly as it is dangerous. Blocking in any form of racing just seems to contradict the purpose of 'racing'.

 
 
 

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Post by will » Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:46:04

On Jun 8, 11:05?pm, "Rod's SHAW"

Quote:

> This topic has been beat to death in here a few times. There seems to be this *** mindset in stock car racing that blocking is part of the game. Frankly, I think it's a contradiction when it comes to auto racing - but that's just MHO. The blocking thing reminds me of the good ole' Roller Derby Days (and watching it quickly wanes to thoughts of 'Amateur Hour'). F1 and Indy do not tolerate (intentional) blocking (for that matter ... neither does horse racing). NASCAR does .... and then drivers whine when they get 'moved' out of the way.

> It just seems to me that the practice of blocking is equally as silly as it is dangerous. Blocking in any form of racing just seems to contradict the purpose of 'racing'.

Racing is a sport. Blocking is the "defensive" part of the sport.

If your good enough, fast enough, bad enough to get around me, get
around me. If I see weaknesses in you, I'm gona hold you off, block
you. If you don't like it, get around me by taking "fineness" to the
limit. If I'm faster and your blocking me, you're gona get passed by
"fineness"/rooted out. It is part of the game.

A driver doesn't want to go a lap down. Leader on his ass. He's
getting the "faster car approaching" flag. It's a one groove race
track. He stays in the groove. Do you see that as OK?!?! That's
blocking. The "defensive" part really comes into play on a road
course.

 
 
 

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Post by Chuck Ste » Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:05:52

It's one thing to block, by staying in the line
that the guy behind you wants to take.
It's an entirely different scenario to change lanes each lap,
depending on where the guy in your mirror is....

One is racing.
One is asking to get dumped.

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Post by will » Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:31:08


Quote:
> It's one thing to block, by staying in the line
> that the guy behind you wants to take.
> It's an entirely different scenario to change lanes each lap,
> depending on where the guy in your mirror is....

> One is racing.
> One is asking to get dumped.

So it's ok to block, when you sat it's ok?!?! lol
 
 
 

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Post by Chuck Ste » Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:08:57


Quote:

>> It's one thing to block, by staying in the line
>> that the guy behind you wants to take.
>> It's an entirely different scenario to change lanes each lap,
>> depending on where the guy in your mirror is....

>> One is racing.
>> One is asking to get dumped.

>So it's ok to block, when you sat it's ok?!?! lol

Let's see if I can explain it better so you can understand.

If a guy is really fast in the middle on turn 1 and 2
and really fast low in 3 and 4, if you consistently
run in that part of the track, you are just taking his line away from
him, forcing him to pass in the lane you give him.
If you mirror drive, and weave every time he tries to pass you
expect to get spun out.

Nobody cares 'where' you run, as long as you hold that line.
It's when you mirror drive that sucks.
I'd tap you a couple of times, and if you kept on doing it,
you'd end up in the infield grass.

You seem to think that if a car is fast enough,
he should be able to get by.
That's true. I agree.
But you can't get by if a guy is driving in his mirror.
That isn't racing, that's being a***.
Which is why guys get spun out.

If you hear enough times that blocking is part of racing,
you begin to think that "any" blocking is part of racing.
It isn't.

I'm not talking about the last turn of the last lap.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dan

I got a new Matco tool box for my wife.
Best trade I ever made...


 
 
 

Blocking : Perhaps I am wrong ( and I usually am )

Post by Walt's Har » Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:03:29

Wonder what AJ would have thought if,instead on continuing to drop
down,Kasey had suddenly kept going straight.
 
 
 

Blocking : Perhaps I am wrong ( and I usually am )

Post by will » Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:49:43


Thanx, but you didn't have to explain it. We could sit here and give a
ton of scenarios/reasons, but the bottom line is, I think it's part of
the game and you don't.

 
 
 

Blocking : Perhaps I am wrong ( and I usually am )

Post by Rod's SHA » Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:52:45

On Jun 8, 11:05 pm, "Rod's SHAW"

A driver doesn't want to go a lap down. Leader on his ass. He's
getting the "faster car approaching" flag. It's a one groove race
track. He stays in the groove. Do you see that as OK?!?!

Of course !! Contrary to what you state below, I don't see that as blocking at all. CHANGING one's line to prevent a quicker car from going by is what I'd perceive as 'blocking'

 That's
blocking. The "defensive" part really comes into play on a road
course.

 
 
 

Blocking : Perhaps I am wrong ( and I usually am )

Post by Rod's SHA » Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:56:08

|
| It's one thing to block, by staying in the line
| that the guy behind you wants to take.
| It's an entirely different scenario to change lanes each lap,
| depending on where the guy in your mirror is....
|
| One is racing.
| One is asking to get dumped.

Totally agreed. Willy's def'n. of blocking (described as holding one's line on a one groove racetrack) does not, IMHO, qualify as blocking. Changing one's line to prevent the quicker car from using it to get by is what I'd perceive as blocking. And if they persist - they inevitably get 'dumped'. It seems far more rational to black flag the slower, "defensive" drivers than it would to allow them to deploy Willy's so called 'defensive' strategy - and ultimately not finish - because someone will dump them.

|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Dan
|
| I got a new Matco tool box for my wife.
| Best trade I ever made...
|

 
 
 

Blocking : Perhaps I am wrong ( and I usually am )

Post by will » Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:57:21


Quote:

> On Jun 8, 11:05 pm, "Rod's SHAW"

> A driver doesn't want to go a lap down. Leader on his ass. He's
> getting the "faster car approaching" flag. It's a one groove race
> track. He stays in the groove. Do you see that as OK?!?!

> Of course !! Contrary to what you state below, I don't see that as blocking at all. CHANGING one's line to prevent a quicker car from going by is what I'd perceive as 'blocking'

> ?That's
> blocking. The "defensive" part really comes into play on a road
> course.

lol So intentionally staying in front of someone, to hold them up, to
keep them from passing you isn't blocking?!?! lol What's that, just
running slower?
 
 
 

Blocking : Perhaps I am wrong ( and I usually am )

Post by will » Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:03:10

2 a : obstacle b  : an obstruction of an opponent's play in sports;

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/block