Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Post by Mark V » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:22:45


Yes, it's early. But let's look at the numbers.

They are outscoring opponents by an average of nearly 3 goals per
match. Their nearest competitor (Man U) is doing so by about 1.5 goals
per match, or just a little over half of City's rate.

They've trounced both the second place and fifth place teams on the
road.

They are 5 points ahead in the race.

They are undefeated. Only Newcastle, who have yet to play a top three
club have only beaten teams that are in 14th place or lower currently,
can claim as much.

They've won what would have appeared to be their toughest match going
into the season if you consider that Man U won 18 matches, drew once,
and lost zero times at home last year.

Though they are supposed to be vulnerable in back, they have the
second-most stingy defense in the league and are conceding less than a
goal per match.

They seem deep enough to absorb a normal amount of injuries, and also
have the buying power to reload as needed should somebody crucial go
down between now and the end of the January window.

Probably the best hope for ManU or Chelsea is that a couple of key
players (Silva, Aguero, and/or Hart?) suffer season-ending injuries
shortly after the transfer window shuts.

And yes... It is still early.

 
 
 

Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Post by Alkamist » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:28:55


Quote:
> Yes, it's early. But let's look at the numbers.

> They are outscoring opponents by an average of nearly 3 goals per
> match. Their nearest competitor (Man U) is doing so by about 1.5 goals
> per match, or just a little over half of City's rate.

> They've trounced both the second place and fifth place teams on the
> road.

> They are 5 points ahead in the race.

> They are undefeated. Only Newcastle, who have yet to play a top three
> club have only beaten teams that are in 14th place or lower currently,
> can claim as much.

> They've won what would have appeared to be their toughest match going
> into the season if you consider that Man U won 18 matches, drew once,
> and lost zero times at home last year.

> Though they are supposed to be vulnerable in back, they have the
> second-most stingy defense in the league and are conceding less than a
> goal per match.

> They seem deep enough to absorb a normal amount of injuries, and also
> have the buying power to reload as needed should somebody crucial go
> down between now and the end of the January window.

> Probably the best hope for ManU or Chelsea is that a couple of key
> players (Silva, Aguero, and/or Hart?) suffer season-ending injuries
> shortly after the transfer window shuts.

> And yes... It is still early.

Yes, I believe that they might not win the league. My reason is
simple, they are riding a mega-hype wave from last weekend, things can
change very quickly, they do for every team year after year. Just a
few weeks ago some very experienced posters were saying that Man U is
unstoppable and the EPL is a foregone conclusion, remember?

 
 
 

Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Post by Quinc » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:34:01


Quote:
> Yes, it's early. But let's look at the numbers.

> They are outscoring opponents by an average of nearly 3 goals per
> match. Their nearest competitor (Man U) is doing so by about 1.5 goals
> per match, or just a little over half of City's rate.

> They've trounced both the second place and fifth place teams on the
> road.

> They are 5 points ahead in the race.

> They are undefeated. Only Newcastle, who have yet to play a top three
> club have only beaten teams that are in 14th place or lower currently,
> can claim as much.

> They've won what would have appeared to be their toughest match going
> into the season if you consider that Man U won 18 matches, drew once,
> and lost zero times at home last year.

> Though they are supposed to be vulnerable in back, they have the
> second-most stingy defense in the league and are conceding less than a
> goal per match.

> They seem deep enough to absorb a normal amount of injuries, and also
> have the buying power to reload as needed should somebody crucial go
> down between now and the end of the January window.

> Probably the best hope for ManU or Chelsea is that a couple of key
> players (Silva, Aguero, and/or Hart?) suffer season-ending injuries
> shortly after the transfer window shuts.

> And yes... It is still early.

Bayern Munich showed them clearly their limits.
8-0 opportunities to score after the first minutes speaks for itself.

 
 
 

Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Post by RED DEVI » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:46:10



Quote:

>> Yes, it's early. But let's look at the numbers.

>> They are outscoring opponents by an average of nearly 3 goals per
>> match. Their nearest competitor (Man U) is doing so by about 1.5 goals
>> per match, or just a little over half of City's rate.

>> They've trounced both the second place and fifth place teams on the
>> road.

>> They are 5 points ahead in the race.

>> They are undefeated. Only Newcastle, who have yet to play a top three
>> club have only beaten teams that are in 14th place or lower currently,
>> can claim as much.

>> They've won what would have appeared to be their toughest match going
>> into the season if you consider that Man U won 18 matches, drew once,
>> and lost zero times at home last year.

>> Though they are supposed to be vulnerable in back, they have the
>> second-most stingy defense in the league and are conceding less than a
>> goal per match.

>> They seem deep enough to absorb a normal amount of injuries, and also
>> have the buying power to reload as needed should somebody crucial go
>> down between now and the end of the January window.

>> Probably the best hope for ManU or Chelsea is that a couple of key
>> players (Silva, Aguero, and/or Hart?) suffer season-ending injuries
>> shortly after the transfer window shuts.

>> And yes... It is still early.

They'll end up fighting for 3rd place
 
 
 

Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Post by RED DEVI » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:47:08

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:28:55 -0700 (PDT), Alkamista

Quote:


>> Yes, it's early. But let's look at the numbers.

>> They are outscoring opponents by an average of nearly 3 goals per
>> match. Their nearest competitor (Man U) is doing so by about 1.5 goals
>> per match, or just a little over half of City's rate.

>> They've trounced both the second place and fifth place teams on the
>> road.

>> They are 5 points ahead in the race.

>> They are undefeated. Only Newcastle, who have yet to play a top three
>> club have only beaten teams that are in 14th place or lower currently,
>> can claim as much.

>> They've won what would have appeared to be their toughest match going
>> into the season if you consider that Man U won 18 matches, drew once,
>> and lost zero times at home last year.

>> Though they are supposed to be vulnerable in back, they have the
>> second-most stingy defense in the league and are conceding less than a
>> goal per match.

>> They seem deep enough to absorb a normal amount of injuries, and also
>> have the buying power to reload as needed should somebody crucial go
>> down between now and the end of the January window.

>> Probably the best hope for ManU or Chelsea is that a couple of key
>> players (Silva, Aguero, and/or Hart?) suffer season-ending injuries
>> shortly after the transfer window shuts.

>> And yes... It is still early.

>Yes, I believe that they might not win the league. My reason is
>simple, they are riding a mega-hype wave from last weekend, things can
>change very quickly, they do for every team year after year. Just a
>few weeks ago some very experienced posters were saying that Man U is
>unstoppable and the EPL is a foregone conclusion, remember?

And last season at this time the "experts" had already called the
league for Chelsea.
 
 
 

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Post by Uncle Dav » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:47:42


Quote:
> Yes, it's early.

I think that sums it up.  Far too early to say.

The club isn't used to success in the modern era, and the longer the
season goes on and the more competitions they are in so the more the
pressure grows.  They haven't been under pressure yet - the media have
tried to put in on Mancini but the owners have made it clear enough that
they're not going to do an Abramovich and panic every time they don't
win every competition they enter.  It's entirely possible they will win
the EPL but five points isn't very much is it?

UD

 
 
 

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Post by Google Beta Use » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 04:18:05

Man U have Ferguson.

Man U got beat down in the yard, they were destroyed by City, but
there's no way they don't bounce back--again Ferguson.

They have an easier stretch of games now--they've already played
Spurs, City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea...I'm sure they'd have
taken 2nd place at this point before the season.

I always put it this way:

Of the above six teams, which is most likely to win 10 games in a row--
spectacular or not?

Of the six teams above, which is LEAST likely to go on a run in which
they drop say, 12/18 points?

Of the above six teams which is LEAST likely to ***if there is
still a title race in May?

If you answer those questions honestly, then Man U are still the
favorites.

 
 
 

Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Post by The Doct » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 04:43:38



Quote:
>Man U have Ferguson.

>Man U got beat down in the yard, they were destroyed by City, but
>there's no way they don't bounce back--again Ferguson.

>They have an easier stretch of games now--they've already played
>Spurs, City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea...I'm sure they'd have
>taken 2nd place at this point before the season.

>I always put it this way:

>Of the above six teams, which is most likely to win 10 games in a row--
>spectacular or not?

>Of the six teams above, which is LEAST likely to go on a run in which
>they drop say, 12/18 points?

>Of the above six teams which is LEAST likely to ***if there is
>still a title race in May?

>If you answer those questions honestly, then Man U are still the
>favorites.

Man U aAND Man C are going DOWN!!
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Post by Mehd » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 05:11:04


Quote:
> Yes, it's early. But let's look at the numbers.

> They are outscoring opponents by an average of nearly 3 goals per
> match. Their nearest competitor (Man U) is doing so by about 1.5 goals
> per match, or just a little over half of City's rate.

> They've trounced both the second place and fifth place teams on the
> road.

> They are 5 points ahead in the race.

> They are undefeated. Only Newcastle, who have yet to play a top three
> club have only beaten teams that are in 14th place or lower currently,
> can claim as much.

> They've won what would have appeared to be their toughest match going
> into the season if you consider that Man U won 18 matches, drew once,
> and lost zero times at home last year.

> Though they are supposed to be vulnerable in back, they have the
> second-most stingy defense in the league and are conceding less than a
> goal per match.

> They seem deep enough to absorb a normal amount of injuries, and also
> have the buying power to reload as needed should somebody crucial go
> down between now and the end of the January window.

> Probably the best hope for ManU or Chelsea is that a couple of key
> players (Silva, Aguero, and/or Hart?) suffer season-ending injuries
> shortly after the transfer window shuts.

> And yes... It is still early.

If/when they have an 8 point lead in January it's in the bag. They
should win the EPL, you couldn't assemble this squad in Football Manager
without a hack.

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Post by Abubak » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 05:17:21


Quote:
> Yes, it's early. But let's look at the numbers.

<snipped the numbers>

Too early to make them champions elect but they're definitely the big
favourites in my book, well ahead of Chelsea and United.

--
I think nothing of popping up at centre-half or full-back. We are all
footballers and as such should be able to perform competently in all 11
positions. -Alfredo Di Stefano

 
 
 

Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Post by Abubak » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 05:30:30


Quote:
> Man U have Ferguson.

> Man U got beat down in the yard, they were destroyed by City, but
> there's no way they don't bounce back--again Ferguson.

It seems I spoke too soon about the man-crush on Ferguson subsiding. You
seem to be cut from the same cloth, no sooner have they been given a
football lesson that they start proclaiming that they can now match
whoever it was that gave them the lesson.

Quote:
> They have an easier stretch of games now--they've already played
> Spurs, City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea...I'm sure they'd have
> taken 2nd place at this point before the season.

> I always put it this way:

I put it another way, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
United is a game and two draws behind City.

Quote:
> Of the above six teams, which is most likely to win 10 games in a row--
> spectacular or not?

> Of the six teams above, which is LEAST likely to go on a run in which
> they drop say, 12/18 points?

> Of the above six teams which is LEAST likely to ***if there is
> still a title race in May?

> If you answer those questions honestly, then Man U are still the
> favorites.

Not really. Man United have to go away to Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea and
City. All losable games for them.

City should not fear meeting anyone, anywhere in this league, given how
easily they dealt with the supposed best team in the league at the
toughest venue.

--
I think nothing of popping up at centre-half or full-back. We are all
footballers and as such should be able to perform competently in all 11
positions. -Alfredo Di Stefano

 
 
 

Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Post by Google Beta Use » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 05:31:37


Quote:
> > And yes... It is still early.

> If/when they have an 8 point lead in January it's in the bag. They
> should win the EPL, you couldn't assemble this squad in Football Manager
> without a hack.

Just for kicks, United's 2nd team:

                     Welbeck   Berbatov
valencia    Cleverly/Giggs     Carrick/Giggs    Park
Fabio     Smalling   Jones    Evans*
                Lindergaad

*He'd start for any other team in the league remember.

 
 
 

Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Post by Abubak » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 05:33:31


Quote:

>>> And yes... It is still early.

>> If/when they have an 8 point lead in January it's in the bag. They
>> should win the EPL, you couldn't assemble this squad in Football Manager
>> without a hack.

> Just for kicks, United's 2nd team:

>                       Welbeck   Berbatov
> valencia    Cleverly/Giggs     Carrick/Giggs    Park
> Fabio     Smalling   Jones    Evans*
>                  Lindergaad

> *He'd start for any other team in the league remember.

Evans would start for any other team? How far has the EPL fallen this year?

--
I think nothing of popping up at centre-half or full-back. We are all
footballers and as such should be able to perform competently in all 11
positions. -Alfredo Di Stefano

 
 
 

Does anyone believe that Manchester City WON'T win the EPL?

Post by The Doct » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 06:43:00

Yes.  They might end up bottom 6 for thuggery.
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Post by The Scrutinee » Sat, 29 Oct 2011 06:49:51


Quote:

>>> And yes... It is still early.

>> If/when they have an 8 point lead in January it's in the bag. They
>> should win the EPL, you couldn't assemble this squad in Football Manager
>> without a hack.

> Just for kicks, United's 2nd team:

>                       Welbeck   Berbatov
> valencia    Cleverly/Giggs     Carrick/Giggs    Park
> Fabio     Smalling   Jones    Evans*
>                  Lindergaad

> *He'd start for any other team in the league remember.
> Evans would start for any other team? How far has the EPL fallen this
> year?

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