|> An utter load of gobshite.
|> >Right. I have wanted to post something like this for a long long time, but
|> >recent events have bought this to the fore of my mind, so I thought I would
|> >post it now, before I run out of time, as I am going home on Friday, so that
|> >does leave time for replies, opinions.
|> >My theory is that Spurs are the most unpopular team in the country, and that
|> >they deserve that, as their behaviour recently has shown. Let me expand on
|> >First, unpopularity. Now, it strikes me that for many teams, most people don't
|> >have an opinion. For example, as an Ipswich fan, I love Town, hate Norwich,
|> >and that is about that. I naturally dislike the club that are the local
|> >rivals. However, I also hate Spurs. Now, when I have asked people this, I have
|> >quite often had the reply that they have one club in particular they dislike,
|> >for example for a Man. Utd. fan it would be City, yet they ALSO hate Spurs!
|> >Now, from what I can work out, this is due to a number of reasons...
|> Hmm. Strange. When I was in Norwich a couple of seasons ago one of their
|> fanzines had Spurs top in the "Favourite Other Team" category of their
|> end of season poll. Then again, maybe Norwich fans have more taste, which
|> is probably reflected in the respective performances of the two East
|> Anglian sides last season. What do Norwich fans call Ipswich again?
Mm. Well I wouldn't trust a Narwich fan for an opinion. Got a Colchester reject
(Yes he was SACKED by Colchester) as a manager, and they sell anyone worth a
five figure amount.
I wouldn't have thought that Norwich Fans would like you after what you did to
them at White Hart Lane!
As for our positions, Ipswich were merely trying to establish ourselves in the
premier league. I think the fact we stuffed Norwich 5-1 on aggregate this season,
(2-0 at Carrow Road, 3-1 at Portman Road) shows we are just as good as them.
Oh, by the way, I should know what the Norwich fans are like - I live here!
|> >1. The fact that a lot of londoners can be arrogant, which is bad, especially
|> > when they have nothing to be arrogant about. This isn't meant to be a
|> > generalisation, but if you ask anyone from outside the South-East what
|> > the traits of a Londener are, arrogance will be one of them. So Lonodn
|> > clubs are disliked in general.
|> Seems like arrogance to tar the entire population of a city with the
|> same brush to me. Not to mention the fact that Ipswich is pretty much
|> the South-East of England anyway.
Unjustified. It is FACT, not opinion, that Ipswich is located in East Anglia
and not the South East. The South East starts at around the Chelmsford area.
However, it was a bit harsh marking the whole of London in the way Matt did.
|> >2. The obvious OFFSIDE factor. The way that Spurs kill the game more than
|> > even the rivals, Arsenal. They have the ability to turn what may be a
|> > good game into a shit one, because of the tactics. Everyone knows Spurs
|> > do this, yet they still claim they don't...Sad..
|> Spurs have used an offside trap more than I would like, but nowhere near
|> as much as Arsenal are capable of. Did you see the Chelsea v Arsenal game
|> on Sky last season? Dire. As for stifling games, and turning them into
|> ***ones, this is really rich coming from an Ipswich Town fan. Ipswich
|> were one of the most boring sides in the Premier Division last season, with
|> their tactic of leaving Kiwomya up front all alone and packing the midfield,
|> then hoofing the ball up to him. It's no surprise that they ended up with
|> so many draws.
Clear to see you havn't seen Ipswich much this season. The ONLY game in which
you comment is justified way Arsenal v Ipwich at Highbury on Boxing day.
You obviously missed the glorious passing game which beat Leeds United 4-2
early in the season and the 2-1 defeat of Manchester United. Also, can you
remember the exciting football which earned both sides a draw when Liverpool
came to Portman Road. Just because it's a draw doesn't mean it was a boring
match. And I'm quite happy to admit our (Ipswich) defeat at Southampton was
a joy to watch. A real thriller!
Having said that I hate Arsenal more than Spurs.
|> >3. Prices. Obvious, really. Pay the most for the worst.
|> You've obviously never been to Stamford Bridge.
Dito. Just look at Robert Fleck.
|> >4. The HUGE press coverage that they always get. It's disgusting. The papers
|> > love them, and although I like Barry Davies, it is always so close to he
|> > or Motson being close to *** when they get to commentate on a Spurs
|> > game.
|> Probably because there's something to get e***d about. Unlike most Ipswich
You have obviously not thought through you comments. My brother went to one
match at White Hart Lane this season. He was impressed by the facilities
spurs provided but bored with the 0-0 scoreline.
(v Aston Villa)
I'll admit Ipswich play badly sometimes, but every team does.
|> >Now, these things were against Spurs until the last month or so...Then their
|> >hatability increased, because of the complete debacle at the club. For one,
|> >press coverage increased, and that didn't help their cause. Then, the
|> >players threaten to walk out, which was quite honourable. Of course, now they
|> >are going to stay, with Ardilles appointed, so they have proved themselves
|> >to be spineless imbeciles. As have the fans, who will NOT boycott the club
|> >as they say. Sure, a few will, the REAL fans, but Spurs have more
|> >'fairweather' fans than any other club, so I can't really see that working.
|> Ha! What do you know about real fans? Funny how Ipswich's gates rocketed
|> after promotion. Funny how you seem to believe that you know what all
|> the Spurs fans think. Of all the fans I've spoken to personally none has
|> expressed unreserved support for Venables. Yes, he was badly treated,
|> but show me a club that has never sacked a manager. Can't be very many.
|> My loyalty is to the Spurs team, not Terry Venables. What figures have
|> you to prove your point about "fairweather fans"? Spurs gates have been
|> very steady the last few seasons, even during the dark days of the Shreeves
|> years. Spurs also have one of the largest travelling supports in England.
The words 'Ipswich's gates rocketed after promotion.' are incorrect. Ipswich's
attendances have grown, but not rocketed. This has surly got to be expected
by any club winning promotion dont you think?
Oh, I went to much more games last season than this. However that is to do
with the universal price discussion not whether I'm a REAL fan or not.
Ipswich have loads of real fans. Being a small town in Suffolk, it's fans
are distributed throughout the whole of EAST ANGLIA, and many, including myself
have to travel 40 miles to the matches REGULARLY. Thats dedication.
Although Spurs has support (quite a bit) outside of London, I would imagine
that the vast majority at a home match are from London. (This is not to say
they are not real fans)
|> >And Venebles attempt to get control is just laughable. How on EARTH can he
|> >possibly persuade a judge to let the SMALLER shareholder take over the
|> >bigger one??? What a mess...
|> By showing that Alan Sugar is not running things in the best interests of
|> the shareholders, as provided for in the Companies Act I believe.
|> >Spurs are a state. They should have been punished when they were in financial
|> >trouble. It happened to Barnet, Swindon, Maidtone and Aldershot. Why not
|> >Spurs? I wonder why. I just know I hate 'em, and I love seeing them as far
|> >down shit creek as they are...Because they have only just started on the
|> >down slope...There is a long way to go yet...
|> Punished for being in financial trouble? You're off your ***y rocker!
|> Maidstone were lobbed out because they didn't have a ground and had about
|> two registered players at the start of the season. Aldershot went bankrupt
|> and ceased trading. Swindon were making irregular payments to players.
|> Barnet weren't making any payments to the players. What exactly is it
|> that you are accusing Spurs of when they were in difficulties? Being
|> short of money is not against League or FA regulations. If it were there'd
|> be a handful of teams left.
Yes, but most businesses are forced to close by the courts when they are 7million
in debt which you were. However, this would have been a bit premiture since
spurs do seem to be on the up financially.
|> As for being in shit creek and going down you seem to be a bit confused.
|> Our league position has improved the last couple of seasons, the club
|> is making a decent profit, there's loads of new young talent coming through.
|> If Spurs end up in the First Division I'm sure Ipswich will have been back
|> there for a long, long time before us.
Ha, Ha! Well, the last paragraph is really down to opinion. Ipswich have
has a season of two halves but I think both Spurs and Ipswich both have a long
future in the Premier League.
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