Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Post by Dieg » Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:29:50



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> >On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:54:48 +0200, David Tiemroth

> >>>I still consider the korean reaction worse.

> >>And you're what nationality again?

> >So what?

> So I'm not surprised you think the Korean reaction is worse,
> considering your team was just knocked out of the WC.

> >I think Wilmot's goal was good and I'm not belgian.

> You have no emotional involvement and think it was good. OK.

> If a Brazilian argued that it was a clear foul, would you be
> surprised?

> >>>Anyway it's funny that here everybody agrees that a reciprocal foul
> >>>should lead to a non call, while on Materazzi's goal, it was right to
> >>>punish Inzaghi.

> >>Two different situations. I don't expect you to agree, of course, that
> >>would be admitting that Italy might have lost because of themselves...

> >Nice way to avoid answering the point. Why different?

> One was two reactionary fouls, the other was one reactionary foul.

> >>>When asked about the ref, they answered about the ref. When asked
> >>>about the chances wasted, they answered about the chances wasted.

> >>And when asked about why they are out of the World Cup, they answered
> >>about the ref. When asked what went wrong, they answered about the
> >>ref. Where's the "we just weren't good enough out there" comments? The
> >>"we made some mistakes and were punished for it. It sucks to be out,
> >>but that's the way things go" comments? Buried underneath the "the
> >>game was already decided! They wanted Italy out!" comments?

> >Maybe your channell didn't broadcast them,

> And no internet sites have them noted down anywhere. Funny, that.

> >Of course it was natural that everybody found the ref scandalous.

> Of course. Italy lost a game, of course everybody found the ref
> scandalous.

> >I'd like to check the interviews after england-Argentina and check out
> >how many players talked about their own mistakes...

> That's your great defense? "Your honor, at least we're only as bad as
> the Argentinians", and how many Argentinians said they lost to England
> because FIFA had decided the outcome of the match long before?

Well Gee David, your biases are showing more and more. Interesting.

Why don't you just notch me up as one who did, since you have pretty much
summed up all my comments as being a bitter Argentinian!!

Time to take a good long hard look in the mirror.

Diego

 
 
 

Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Post by Goldmu » Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:13:15

Quote:

>If you're talking m***victories, maybe. Or in theory, maybe. But
>when it comes down to it, a team have to produce a winning effort on
>this day at this time. There are many hurdles besides their opponents
>that they must over come. Such as weather, pitch conditions,
>spectators, injuries, and yes, officating mistakes.
>Germany beat USA. There was a close call there in the box when the
>ball hit the German defender's arm. It was an unlucky break for my
>team. I'm not convinced that it was a mistake on the part of a
>referee.
>I'm disapointed that the US is eliminated. I think they played well,
>but not well enough at the time. I know this because of objective
>evidence, they didn't put the ball in the net. The Germans did. The
>Germans deserve to move on.

I disagree on that, otherwise it would be completely unuseful
commenting about football: one should just read the score and
understand what team was the best.
With football it doesn't work this way. If you lose 100m dash race,
your opponent was faster, that's all. If you lose a basket, volley,
tennis...match, your opponent was better, unless one of the rare cases
when one wins for 1 or 2 determinant points.
In football most of the times it's about those cases.

Goldmund -
on Usenet since 1997

 
 
 

Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Post by Robbi » Tue, 25 Jun 2002 17:40:43


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> Argentina on two occasions.  A hypocrite he may be, but a closte hypocrite
> no longer. I think this is the point you are missing.

The only point is that Owen has never dived. He's never been carded for
diving in his career.

Argies need to find fault with their tormentor and abuser.

We understand.

 
 
 

Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Post by Robbi » Tue, 25 Jun 2002 17:41:50


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> > > >> Show them, give us a show of your knowledge about italian politics.

> > > >No need. I alredy have.

> > > till now you just showed poor knowldege, I'm sure you can come out
> > > with something better.

> > > >> Sure. Tell ONE neo fascist thing that has been said or done by AN.

> > > >How could it?

> > > So AN said nothing neo fascist?

> > > >> Show us you're not rhetoric.

> > > >Show us your not a liar, loser.

> > > What a pathetic attempt to counter somebody's reasons :-D

> > The NA is a neo-fascist party. That is a fact.

> Here Robbie, I'll help you out...in your own words;

> "Prove it, or SHUT IT!"

Already done.
 
 
 

Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Post by Vinc » Tue, 25 Jun 2002 23:34:15

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> > red-card!

> It was as much a penalty as Owen's. Contact with the defender was clear.

Incidental contact should not be regarded as a foul when players are
vying for control of the ball, its when a player already has control
and is knocked off it by the other that it should be a foul.

Vince

 
 
 

Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Post by Dieg » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:16:12


Quote:



> > Argentina on two occasions.  A hypocrite he may be, but a closte
hypocrite
> > no longer. I think this is the point you are missing.

> The only point is that Owen has never dived.

You are a liar and hypocrite.

Quote:
> He's never been carded for
> diving in his career.

He dove, and he's good at it (better than Ortego for sure), congratulations.

Quote:
> Argies need to find fault with their tormentor and abuser.

Hand of God?

Quote:
> We understand.

Oh, you found some good french cheese to go with your whine. Good, it's much
better that way.
 
 
 

Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Post by Dieg » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:17:08


Quote:









> > > > >> Show them, give us a show of your knowledge about italian
politics.

> > > > >No need. I alredy have.

> > > > till now you just showed poor knowldege, I'm sure you can come out
> > > > with something better.

> > > > >> Sure. Tell ONE neo fascist thing that has been said or done by
AN.

> > > > >How could it?

> > > > So AN said nothing neo fascist?

> > > > >> Show us you're not rhetoric.

> > > > >Show us your not a liar, loser.

> > > > What a pathetic attempt to counter somebody's reasons :-D

> > > The NA is a neo-fascist party. That is a fact.

> > Here Robbie, I'll help you out...in your own words;

> > "Prove it, or SHUT IT!"

> Already done.

How convenient to avoid it.

French Cheese doing wonders is it?

 
 
 

Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Post by Dieg » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:18:29



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> > > red-card!

> > If you watched the replay he was interfeared with, unlike Owen vs
Argentina.

> Actually, Pochettino's vicious tackle on Owen warranted a red card, if
> not an automatic 5 game suspension. Hell, he could have been arrested
> for aggravated ***.

> Would you like to meet halfway?

Haha. Ok here's my go.

Owen saw Pochettino from about 100m away, and began his ascencion into the
heavens, only to land at Pochettino's feet some 10 meters away. A beautiful
swan dive, ending up with Owen inside the 18 for a pk.

 
 
 

Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Post by Robbi » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 23:20:02


Quote:





> > > Argentina on two occasions.  A hypocrite he may be, but a closte
> hypocrite
> > > no longer. I think this is the point you are missing.

> > The only point is that Owen has never dived.

> You are a liar and hypocrite.

No, I've never seen him dive. Some peole think he has but it isn't clear
that he has.

Quote:
> > He's never been carded for
> > diving in his career.

> He dove, and he's good at it (better than Ortego for sure),

congratulations.

He has never dived. I expect Argies to scream that he has as he abuses Argie
defenders at will.

 
 
 

Totti - Olympic Diving Champion

Post by Dieg » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 03:53:17


Quote:







> > > > Argentina on two occasions.  A hypocrite he may be, but a closte
> > hypocrite
> > > > no longer. I think this is the point you are missing.

> > > The only point is that Owen has never dived.

> > You are a liar and hypocrite.

> No, I've never seen him dive. Some peole think he has but it isn't clear
> that he has.

> > > He's never been carded for
> > > diving in his career.

> > He dove, and he's good at it (better than Ortego for sure),
> congratulations.

> He has never dived.

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

Quote:
>I expect Argies to scream that he has as he abuses Argie
> defenders at will.

Yep, he's good.