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by **sadisticpric** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:09:52

Don't mistake art rock for progressive rock. The concept of "art rock"
has also sometimes been conflated with the "progressive rock" bands
which attained mainstream popularity in the 1970s, but today the terms
are usually used differently. Progressive rock eventually stuck as a
label for a specific genre of rock music, while art rock remained a
wider, more subjective and uncategorisable idea.

Some proto-punk bands Roxy Music and glam rock bands like T.Rex were
quite arty. So were the pyschedelic/early rock bands like Beatles. And
the largely mislabeled "hard rock/heavy metal" band Led Zeppelin. I am
not suggesting these are the best af the arty bands. But based on
"critic" reviews, these bands seem to have a lot of respect among the
art rock critics.

In alphabetical order
01) Beatles
02) Can
03) Genesis
04) Kraftwerk
05) Led Zeppelin
06) Pink Floyd
07) Roxy Music
08) Tyrannosaurus Rex/T.Rex
09) Van der Graaf Generator
10) Yes

I would have included David Bowie/Frank Zappa but I stuck with the
bands!

by **gregor..** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:13:01

Quote:

> Don't mistake art rock for progressive rock. The concept of "art rock"
> has also sometimes been conflated with the "progressive rock" bands
> which attained mainstream popularity in the 1970s, but today the terms
> are usually used differently. Progressive rock eventually stuck as a
> label for a specific genre of rock music, while art rock remained a
> wider, more subjective and uncategorisable idea.

> Some proto-punk bands Roxy Music and glam rock bands like T.Rex were
> quite arty. So were the pyschedelic/early rock bands like Beatles. And
> the largely mislabeled "hard rock/heavy metal" band Led Zeppelin. I am
> not suggesting these are the best af the arty bands. But based on
> "critic" reviews, these bands seem to have a lot of respect among the
> art rock critics.

> In alphabetical order
> 01) Beatles
> 02) Can
> 03) Genesis
> 04) Kraftwerk
> 05) Led Zeppelin
> 06) Pink Floyd
> 07) Roxy Music
> 08) Tyrannosaurus Rex/T.Rex
> 09) Van der Graaf Generator
> 10) Yes

> I would have included David Bowie/Frank Zappa but I stuck with the
> bands!

Surely this must be Raja?

by **sadisticpric** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:46:35

Quote:

> > Don't mistake art rock for progressive rock. The concept of "art rock"
> > has also sometimes been conflated with the "progressive rock" bands
> > which attained mainstream popularity in the 1970s, but today the terms
> > are usually used differently. Progressive rock eventually stuck as a
> > label for a specific genre of rock music, while art rock remained a
> > wider, more subjective and uncategorisable idea.

> > Some proto-punk bands Roxy Music and glam rock bands like T.Rex were
> > quite arty. So were the pyschedelic/early rock bands like Beatles. And
> > the largely mislabeled "hard rock/heavy metal" band Led Zeppelin. I am
> > not suggesting these are the best af the arty bands. But based on
> > "critic" reviews, these bands seem to have a lot of respect among the
> > art rock critics.

> > In alphabetical order
> > 01) Beatles
> > 02) Can
> > 03) Genesis
> > 04) Kraftwerk
> > 05) Led Zeppelin
> > 06) Pink Floyd
> > 07) Roxy Music
> > 08) Tyrannosaurus Rex/T.Rex
> > 09) Van der Graaf Generator
> > 10) Yes

> > I would have included David Bowie/Frank Zappa but I stuck with the
> > bands!

> Surely this must be Raja?- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Yes

by **Tom Maso** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:01:21

Genesis were hated by critics, both in their prog days and their pop ***
days.

Quote:

> Don't mistake art rock for progressive rock. The concept of "art rock"
> has also sometimes been conflated with the "progressive rock" bands
> which attained mainstream popularity in the 1970s, but today the terms
> are usually used differently. Progressive rock eventually stuck as a
> label for a specific genre of rock music, while art rock remained a
> wider, more subjective and uncategorisable idea.

> Some proto-punk bands Roxy Music and glam rock bands like T.Rex were
> quite arty. So were the pyschedelic/early rock bands like Beatles. And
> the largely mislabeled "hard rock/heavy metal" band Led Zeppelin. I am
> not suggesting these are the best af the arty bands. But based on
> "critic" reviews, these bands seem to have a lot of respect among the
> art rock critics.

> In alphabetical order
> 01) Beatles
> 02) Can
> 03) Genesis
> 04) Kraftwerk
> 05) Led Zeppelin
> 06) Pink Floyd
> 07) Roxy Music
> 08) Tyrannosaurus Rex/T.Rex
> 09) Van der Graaf Generator
> 10) Yes

> I would have included David Bowie/Frank Zappa but I stuck with the
> bands!

by **stephen** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 09:23:30

none of those are art rock bands, with the possible exception of the
beatles (who can be called just about anything short of heavy metal).

art rock bands were acts like the velvet underground, the new york
dolls, and the ramones.

sheesh.

Quote:

> Don't mistake art rock for progressive rock. The concept of "art rock"
> has also sometimes been conflated with the "progressive rock" bands
> which attained mainstream popularity in the 1970s, but today the terms
> are usually used differently. Progressive rock eventually stuck as a
> label for a specific genre of rock music, while art rock remained a
> wider, more subjective and uncategorisable idea.

> Some proto-punk bands Roxy Music and glam rock bands like T.Rex were
> quite arty. So were the pyschedelic/early rock bands like Beatles. And
> the largely mislabeled "hard rock/heavy metal" band Led Zeppelin. I am
> not suggesting these are the best af the arty bands. But based on
> "critic" reviews, these bands seem to have a lot of respect among the
> art rock critics.

> In alphabetical order
> 01) Beatles
> 02) Can
> 03) Genesis
> 04) Kraftwerk
> 05) Led Zeppelin
> 06) Pink Floyd
> 07) Roxy Music
> 08) Tyrannosaurus Rex/T.Rex
> 09) Van der Graaf Generator
> 10) Yes

> I would have included David Bowie/Frank Zappa but I stuck with the
> bands!

--
"when i visited Aden before collectivization,
all the markets were full of fish product. After
collectivization, the fish immediately disappeared."

- Aleksandr Vassiliev, Soviet KGB official

by **^R^A^J^A** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 09:53:58

Quote:

> none of those are art rock bands, with the possible exception of the
> beatles (who can be called just about anything short of heavy metal).

> art rock bands were acts like the velvet underground, the new york
> dolls, and the ramones.

> sheesh.

> > Don't mistake art rock for progressive rock. The concept of "art rock"
> > has also sometimes been conflated with the "progressive rock" bands
> > which attained mainstream popularity in the 1970s, but today the terms
> > are usually used differently. Progressive rock eventually stuck as a
> > label for a specific genre of rock music, while art rock remained a
> > wider, more subjective and uncategorisable idea.

> > Some proto-punk bands Roxy Music and glam rock bands like T.Rex were
> > quite arty. So were the pyschedelic/early rock bands like Beatles. And
> > the largely mislabeled "hard rock/heavy metal" band Led Zeppelin. I am
> > not suggesting these are the best af the arty bands. But based on
> > "critic" reviews, these bands seem to have a lot of respect among the
> > art rock critics.

> > In alphabetical order
> > 01) Beatles
> > 02) Can
> > 03) Genesis
> > 04) Kraftwerk
> > 05) Led Zeppelin
> > 06) Pink Floyd
> > 07) Roxy Music
> > 08) Tyrannosaurus Rex/T.Rex
> > 09) Van der Graaf Generator
> > 10) Yes

> > I would have included David Bowie/Frank Zappa but I stuck with the
> > bands!

> --
> "when i visited Aden before collectivization,
> all the markets were full of fish product. After
> collectivization, the fish immediately disappeared."

> - Aleksandr Vassiliev, Soviet KGB official- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Ramones - art rock? LOLOL.... wat an idiot!

by **^R^A^J^A** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 09:54:38

Quote:

> Genesis were hated by critics, both in their prog days and their pop ***
> days.

I am talking about the critics' perception NOW!

by **stephen** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:47:35

Quote:

> Ramones - art rock? LOLOL.... wat an idiot!

the ramones were the leading art rock act of the mid-late 70s. if you
don't know that, you are are even more clueless than i thought possible.

musically, the ramones mashed the beach boys, dion and the belmonts, the
MC5, and black sabbath, and their look was 60s hippie + james dean. A
purely absurdist modern art pastiche.

none of those bands you listed had one iota of "art" in anything they
did. and almost none of them rocked. you're officially pathetic.

--
The Achilles heel of Socialism was the inability to link the socialist goal
with the provision of incentives for efficient labor and the encouragement
of effort on the part of individuals.

- Mikhail Gorbachev

by **Joe Ramire** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:09:47

Quote:

> Don't mistake art rock for progressive rock. The concept of "art rock"
> has also sometimes been conflated with the "progressive rock" bands
> which attained mainstream popularity in the 1970s, but today the terms
> are usually used differently. Progressive rock eventually stuck as a
> label for a specific genre of rock music, while art rock remained a
> wider, more subjective and uncategorisable idea.

> Some proto-punk bands Roxy Music and glam rock bands like T.Rex were
> quite arty. So were the pyschedelic/early rock bands like Beatles. And
> the largely mislabeled "hard rock/heavy metal" band Led Zeppelin. I am
> not suggesting these are the best af the arty bands. But based on
> "critic" reviews, these bands seem to have a lot of respect among the
> art rock critics.

> In alphabetical order
> 01) Beatles
> 02) Can
> 03) Genesis
> 04) Kraftwerk
> 05) Led Zeppelin
> 06) Pink Floyd
> 07) Roxy Music
> 08) Tyrannosaurus Rex/T.Rex
> 09) Van der Graaf Generator
> 10) Yes

> I would have included David Bowie/Frank Zappa but I stuck with the
> bands!

Raja, your 70s obsession and your dislike of contemporary music are
really blinding you here. Otherwise, you would understand that any
list of *critics'* art rock favorites that does not include Radiohead
is absurd.

A Selection of Significant Art Rock Albums in Chronological Order,
Limit One Album per Artist
(Note that I have included the effete Pink Floyd because I recognize
their influence although I like them little.)
The Beatles, Revolver
Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon
Steely Dan, Aja
David Bowie, Heroes
Talking Heads, Remain in Light
Joy Division, Closer
Mission of Burma, Vs.
Echo & the Bunnymen, Porcupine
The Fall, The Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall
My ***y Valentine, Loveless
Radiohead, OK Computer
Sigur Ros, Takk

Joe Ramirez

by **^R^A^J^A** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:22:58

Quote:

> > Don't mistake art rock for progressive rock. The concept of "art rock"
> > has also sometimes been conflated with the "progressive rock" bands
> > which attained mainstream popularity in the 1970s, but today the terms
> > are usually used differently. Progressive rock eventually stuck as a
> > label for a specific genre of rock music, while art rock remained a
> > wider, more subjective and uncategorisable idea.

> > Some proto-punk bands Roxy Music and glam rock bands like T.Rex were
> > quite arty. So were the pyschedelic/early rock bands like Beatles. And
> > the largely mislabeled "hard rock/heavy metal" band Led Zeppelin. I am
> > not suggesting these are the best af the arty bands. But based on
> > "critic" reviews, these bands seem to have a lot of respect among the
> > art rock critics.

> > In alphabetical order
> > 01) Beatles
> > 02) Can
> > 03) Genesis
> > 04) Kraftwerk
> > 05) Led Zeppelin
> > 06) Pink Floyd
> > 07) Roxy Music
> > 08) Tyrannosaurus Rex/T.Rex
> > 09) Van der Graaf Generator
> > 10) Yes

> > I would have included David Bowie/Frank Zappa but I stuck with the
> > bands!

> Raja, your 70s obsession and your dislike of contemporary music are
> really blinding you here.

I dont dislike it. They just dont stand a chance to the 70s great
bands.

Quote:

> Otherwise, you would understand that any
> list of *critics'* art rock favorites that does not include Radiohead
> is absurd.

No thanks. I prefer the original innovators to the copycats.

Quote:

> A Selection of Significant Art Rock Albums in Chronological Order,
> Limit One Album per Artist
> (Note that I have included the effete Pink Floyd because I recognize
> their influence although I like them little.)
> The Beatles, Revolver

Sgt Pepper more artistic

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> Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon

good choice. but isnt this 70s? how can you include this and not
include TPATGOD

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> Steely Dan, Aja

hate them with a passion. this is supposed to be a sellout album. I
heard this one. pukeworthy.

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> David Bowie, Heroes
> Talking Heads, Remain in Light
> Joy Division, Closer

They were awesome, unfortunately Curtis hanged himself

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> Mission of Burma, Vs.
> Echo & the Bunnymen, Porcupine
> The Fall, The Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall
> My ***y Valentine, Loveless
overrated
> Radiohead, OK Computer
overrated
> Sigur Ros, Takk

I prefer Ageatis... whatever the hell it was called

Have you heard Godspeed You Black Emperor? They are good... too dark
but still good.

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> Joe Ramirez

by **^R^A^J^A** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:23:43

Quote:

> > Ramones - art rock? LOLOL.... wat an idiot!

> the ramones were the leading art rock act of the mid-late 70s. if you
> don't know that, you are are even more clueless than i thought possible.

> musically, the ramones mashed the beach boys, dion and the belmonts, the
> MC5, and black sabbath, and their look was 60s hippie + james dean. A
> purely absurdist modern art pastiche.

And made one song and recorded it a million times with different
words!

Quote:

> none of those bands you listed had one iota of "art" in anything they
> did. and almost none of them rocked. you're officially pathetic.

> --
> The Achilles heel of Socialism was the inability to link the socialist goal
> with the provision of incentives for efficient labor and the encouragement
> of effort on the part of individuals.

> - Mikhail Gorbachev

by **^R^A^J^A** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:52:26

Quote:

> > Ramones - art rock? LOLOL.... wat an idiot!

> the ramones were the leading art rock act of the mid-late 70s. if you
> don't know that, you are are even more clueless than i thought possible.

> musically, the ramones mashed the beach boys, dion and the belmonts, the
> MC5, and black sabbath, and their look was 60s hippie + james dean. A
> purely absurdist modern art pastiche.

Art rock is a term used by some to describe rock music that is
characterized by ambitious or avant-garde lyrical themes and/or
melodic, harmonic, or rhythmic experimentation, often extending beyond
standard modern popular music forms and genres, toward influences in
jazz, classical, world music or the experimental avant-garde.

.... Ramones were all that... yeah right!

by **bawi** » Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:14:22

^R^A^J^A^ schreef:

Quote:

>>> Ramones - art rock? LOLOL.... wat an idiot!
>> the ramones were the leading art rock act of the mid-late 70s. if you
>> don't know that, you are are even more clueless than i thought possible.

>> musically, the ramones mashed the beach boys, dion and the belmonts, the
>> MC5, and black sabbath, and their look was 60s hippie + james dean. A
>> purely absurdist modern art pastiche.

> Art rock is a term used by some to describe rock music that is
> characterized by ambitious or avant-garde lyrical themes and/or
> melodic, harmonic, or rhythmic experimentation, often extending beyond
> standard modern popular music forms and genres, toward influences in
> jazz, classical, world music or the experimental avant-garde.

> .... Ramones were all that... yeah right!

Could this be about those brainy Steely Dan-guys?

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