Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Marki » Thu, 19 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Germany quite blatantly gave Mickey "Confed Cup" Mouse the snub
last year.  A tournament they were invited in as European Confederation
winners, to play against other confederation winners, such as
South Africa, Mexico, etc and against hosts Saudi Arabia.
This tournament was not seen as an ideal preparation for France 98.

Instead of Travelling to Saudi Arabia for the Confed Cup, Germany
chose to play South Africa in a friendly and then travelling
to Saudi Arabia to play a friendly, and another friendly against
Oman of all nations.  Apparently this is a much more meaningful
preparation to France 98.

Oh Berti Vogts...  Where would you be without Olivier Bierhoff?

Markian Jaworsky

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Karel Stokkerma » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> Germany quite blatantly gave Mickey "Confed Cup" Mouse the snub
> last year.  A tournament they were invited in as European Confederation
> winners, to play against other confederation winners, such as
> South Africa, Mexico, etc and against hosts Saudi Arabia.
> This tournament was not seen as an ideal preparation for France 98.

Their point was more that the timing wasn't particularly convenient
regarding the domestic season.

Quote:
> Instead of Travelling to Saudi Arabia for the Confed Cup, Germany
> chose to play South Africa in a friendly and then travelling
> to Saudi Arabia to play a friendly, and another friendly against
> Oman of all nations.  Apparently this is a much more meaningful
> preparation to France 98.

Well, two friendlies just take five days, the Confed Thing would have
taken them much longer.  Also, obviously these matches in Arabia are
just Wiedergutmachung and not preparation for France, seeing that half
the team was missing in the first match because the Germans (quite
rightly) decided a Cup semifinal was of far greater importance than
playing Oman.  They just tested a few new players and tried to build
some team spirit, which is what friendlies are for.  The Confed Cup
pretended to be more than a couple of friendlies, which is why the
Germans weren't interested.

Quote:
> Oh Berti Vogts...  Where would you be without Olivier Bierhoff?

That should read: "where would you be without the Austrian league
to develop your strikers" ;-).

Cheers,
Karel

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Bruce Scott T » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00


|> Instead of Travelling to Saudi Arabia for the Confed Cup, Germany
|> chose to play South Africa in a friendly and then travelling
|> to Saudi Arabia to play a friendly, and another friendly against
|> Oman of all nations.  Apparently this is a much more meaningful
|> preparation to France 98.

It's a question of timing.  The winter break started in late December,
and a lot of players were injured then.  It was time to take a rest.
Most top level players missed the S Africa game.

cu,
Bruce
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the heat up slowly, you can roast it to death."  -- Clive Thompson

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Bruce Scott T » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00


|> Well, two friendlies just take five days, the Confed Thing would have
|> taken them much longer.  Also, obviously these matches in Arabia are
|> just Wiedergutmachung and not preparation for France, seeing that half
|> the team was missing in the first match because the Germans (quite
|> rightly) decided a Cup semifinal was of far greater importance than
|> playing Oman.  They just tested a few new players and tried to build
|> some team spirit, which is what friendlies are for.  The Confed Cup
|> pretended to be more than a couple of friendlies, which is why the
|> Germans weren't interested.

You're quite right, Karel... the nucleus of Germany is in fact FC Bayern
Muenchen :-)

cu,
Bruce

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"That's the old ecological tale that explains humans' inability to fully
appreciate global warming.  To wit: if you drop a frog in a pan of hot
water, it jumps out.  If you drop it in a pan of cold water, then turn
the heat up slowly, you can roast it to death."  -- Clive Thompson

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Karel Stokkerma » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
> You're quite right, Karel... the nucleus of Germany is in fact FC Bayern
> Muenchen :-)

Of course.  It's very convenient that the two most despicable teams in the
universe are virtually undistinguishable :-).  (Of course, the number of
players in the German team that were actually developed by Bayern hardly
registers.)

Cheers,
Karel

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Bruce Scott T » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00


|>


|>  
|> > You're quite right, Karel... the nucleus of Germany is in fact FC Bayern
|> > Muenchen :-)
|>
|> Of course.  It's very convenient that the two most despicable teams in the
|> universe are virtually undistinguishable :-).  (Of course, the number of
|> players in the German team that were actually developed by Bayern hardly
|> registers.)

We're going to have to bet some beers this summer...

cu,
Bruce

--
"That's the old ecological tale that explains humans' inability to fully
appreciate global warming.  To wit: if you drop a frog in a pan of hot
water, it jumps out.  If you drop it in a pan of cold water, then turn
the heat up slowly, you can roast it to death."  -- Clive Thompson

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Karel Stokkerma » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:


> |> Of course.  It's very convenient that the two most despicable teams in the
> |> universe are virtually undistinguishable :-).  (Of course, the number of
> |> players in the German team that were actually developed by Bayern hardly
> |> registers.)
> We're going to have to bet some beers this summer...

Sure, anytime.  My bet is the Dutch and the Germans will meet in the second
round, and moreover that we'll be in the semis.

Cheers,
Karel
PS: Stiegl or Loewenbrau?

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Bruce Scott T » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00


|> PS: Stiegl or Loewenbrau?

To hell with German beer; you're going to have to pay me with Guinness :-)

(I won't take a position until the second round, because I _really_
would like to see the US kick the Germans out and don't want to jinx the
0.0001 possibility :-)

cu,
Bruce

--
"That's the old ecological tale that explains humans' inability to fully
appreciate global warming.  To wit: if you drop a frog in a pan of hot
water, it jumps out.  If you drop it in a pan of cold water, then turn
the heat up slowly, you can roast it to death."  -- Clive Thompson

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Karel Stokkerma » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:


> |> PS: Stiegl or Loewenbrau?
> To hell with German beer; you're going to have to pay me with Guinness :-)

No problem :).  But then I'll want some Affligem from you...

Quote:
> (I won't take a position until the second round, because I _really_
> would like to see the US kick the Germans out and don't want to jinx the
> 0.0001 possibility :-)

Can only support you there ;-).

You want to bet on that friendly tomorrow?

Cheers,
Karel

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Toni Agalli » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


> > Germany quite blatantly gave Mickey "Confed Cup" Mouse the snub
> > last year.  A tournament they were invited in as European Confederation
> > winners, to play against other confederation winners, such as
> > South Africa, Mexico, etc and against hosts Saudi Arabia.

They were right, because it was in a bad time indeed. But on the other hand
the participation will be compulsory for the next winners of the European
Championship, who not only will have to participate, but also to play with
the 'normal' line-up. If not, they would be disallowed to take part in the
following World Cup. FIFA is said to take an interest in the Confed Cup.

My apostrophe: FIFA, what will you do next to make more money?

Quote:
> Oh Berti Vogts...  Where would you be without Olivier Bierhoff?

Well, true, but the Geramans have always had a great striker up their sleeves

Quote:

> That should read: "where would you be without the Austrian league
> to develop your strikers" ;-).

True enough, since Carsten Jancker learnt football in Austria as well.

Toni

FCB FOREVER

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Bruce Scott T » Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>You want to bet on that friendly tomorrow?

No :-)   (you do mean us and Ned, right; I'm not sure which day Germany
plays Saudi, but expect a win equal in weakness to that over Oman)

cu,
Bruce

--
"That's the old ecological tale that explains humans' inability to fully
appreciate global warming.  To wit: if you drop a frog in a pan of hot
water, it jumps out.  If you drop it in a pan of cold water, then turn
the heat up slowly, you can roast it to death."  -- Clive Thompson

 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Jesper Laurids » Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>Of course.  It's very convenient that the two most despicable teams in the
>universe are virtually undistinguishable :-).  (Of course, the number of
>players in the German team that were actually developed by Bayern hardly
>registers.)

Could you expand on what you mean by "developed by" and "hardly registers"?
I count 3 Bayern developed Bayern players in the 40 man squad. That's 30%
and I don't see the other clubs doing much better?
 
 
 

Germany's on-again, off-again relationship with Mickey

Post by Thomas Esam » Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Quote:


>>Of course.  It's very convenient that the two most despicable teams in the
>>universe are virtually undistinguishable :-).  (Of course, the number of
>>players in the German team that were actually developed by Bayern hardly
>>registers.)

>Could you expand on what you mean by "developed by" and "hardly registers"?
>I count 3 Bayern developed Bayern players in the 40 man squad. That's 30%
>and I don't see the other clubs doing much better?

3 from 40 is 30%? Those Bazi never were much good at counting....

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Post by Ariel Mazzarel » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>>Of course.  It's very convenient that the two most despicable teams in the
>>universe are virtually undistinguishable :-).  (Of course, the number of
>>players in the German team that were actually developed by Bayern hardly
>>registers.)

>Could you expand on what you mean by "developed by" and "hardly registers"?
>I count 3 Bayern developed Bayern players in the 40 man squad. That's 30%

         ^                                        ^^                   ^^^

Quote:
>and I don't see the other clubs doing much better?

Hi Jesper!

Ariel
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