Arrogant teams

Arrogant teams

Post by Victoria Barret » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 13:32:03


My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

1) Argentina NT

2) Real Madrid

3) Bayern Mnchen

4) Arsenal (UK)

5) Italian NT

6) England NT

7) Manchester United

8) Holland NT

9) Boca Juniors

10) America (Mexico)

(...oddly to some, I do not rank any Italian club teams as exceedingly
arrogant. Even though Juventus e.g., have won scores of trophies, and
there are braggarts amongst their numbers, like many other clubs, they
do not strike me as insufferable)

I took into account these categories:

- Arrogance of team members themselves
- Dismissive attitude to other teams by manager
- Insufferable attitude of supporters
- Whininess of team and supporters after losses
- Pointing of accusatory fingers after losses to everyone else
- Jingoistic press and media
- Corrupt ethos (including the strong-arming of referees, lack of
organisational checks and balances, governmental "assistance")

 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by Mike » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 13:44:15

Quote:

> My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

In increasing or decreasing order of arrogance? I'd agree with many of
your nominations, although not necessarily with the positions.

Mike

--
Q. What do you call a man with 50 rabbits up his bum?
A. Warren.

 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by Riffste » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:04:13

Real Madrid is so far and away the most arrogant it
isn't even close.

You have been too long away from Brasil Victoria.

Brasilians actually feel *sorry* for the Argies now.

- Riff

 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by Goldmun » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:23:27

On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 00:32:03 -0400, Victoria Barrett

Quote:

>My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

>1) Argentina NT

>2) Real Madrid

>3) Bayern Mnchen

>4) Arsenal (UK)

>5) Italian NT

>6) England NT

>7) Manchester United

>8) Holland NT

>9) Boca Juniors

>10) America (Mexico)

So where is Brasil NT?
And France NT ?(since you use the supporters as a parameter, they
should be absolutely in)
And, out of curiosity, Italian NT is there for what point/s iyo?
 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by Real Mardi » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:43:16

A few of my selections, in no particular order.....

Manchester United

Real Madrid

AS Roma........actually, pretty much any side in the top half of Serie A
when drawn against a team from a so called "lesser" nation

Fenerbahce (the team who's board claim at the start of every season that
they are going to win the Champions League)

Brazil

As much as it pains me to say it, England.........not sure if this one is
pure arrogance or actually ignorance but there does seem to be a lot of
indignation whenever a "lesser" team threaten to turn England
over..........plus whenever a major tournament is on all it takes is a
couple of lucky victories in the earlier rounds and the English fans and
press start ranting and raving about how we are going to win the cup, how
this is the best side since 1966, etc......note, victory over Denmark does
not World Champions make!


Quote:
> My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

> 1) Argentina NT

> 2) Real Madrid

> 3) Bayern Mnchen

> 4) Arsenal (UK)

> 5) Italian NT

> 6) England NT

> 7) Manchester United

> 8) Holland NT

> 9) Boca Juniors

> 10) America (Mexico)

> (...oddly to some, I do not rank any Italian club teams as exceedingly
> arrogant. Even though Juventus e.g., have won scores of trophies, and
> there are braggarts amongst their numbers, like many other clubs, they
> do not strike me as insufferable)

> I took into account these categories:

> - Arrogance of team members themselves
> - Dismissive attitude to other teams by manager
> - Insufferable attitude of supporters
> - Whininess of team and supporters after losses
> - Pointing of accusatory fingers after losses to everyone else
> - Jingoistic press and media
> - Corrupt ethos (including the strong-arming of referees, lack of
> organisational checks and balances, governmental "assistance")

 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by Real Mardi » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:43:16

A few of my selections, in no particular order.....

Manchester United

Real Madrid

AS Roma........actually, pretty much any side in the top half of Serie A
when drawn against a team from a so called "lesser" nation

Fenerbahce (the team who's board claim at the start of every season that
they are going to win the Champions League)

Brazil

As much as it pains me to say it, England.........not sure if this one is
pure arrogance or actually ignorance but there does seem to be a lot of
indignation whenever a "lesser" team threaten to turn England
over..........plus whenever a major tournament is on all it takes is a
couple of lucky victories in the earlier rounds and the English fans and
press start ranting and raving about how we are going to win the cup, how
this is the best side since 1966, etc......note, victory over Denmark does
not World Champions make!


Quote:
> My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

> 1) Argentina NT

> 2) Real Madrid

> 3) Bayern Mnchen

> 4) Arsenal (UK)

> 5) Italian NT

> 6) England NT

> 7) Manchester United

> 8) Holland NT

> 9) Boca Juniors

> 10) America (Mexico)

> (...oddly to some, I do not rank any Italian club teams as exceedingly
> arrogant. Even though Juventus e.g., have won scores of trophies, and
> there are braggarts amongst their numbers, like many other clubs, they
> do not strike me as insufferable)

> I took into account these categories:

> - Arrogance of team members themselves
> - Dismissive attitude to other teams by manager
> - Insufferable attitude of supporters
> - Whininess of team and supporters after losses
> - Pointing of accusatory fingers after losses to everyone else
> - Jingoistic press and media
> - Corrupt ethos (including the strong-arming of referees, lack of
> organisational checks and balances, governmental "assistance")

 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by Alessandro Riol » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 15:30:29


Quote:

> My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

Paraphrasing Luis Felipe Scolari, real football is not a game for too
arrogant neither for too timid children. This sport consists of a duel
between teams who are fighting to get a result, and a correct balance of
arrogance and humbleness helps greatly to achieve that. In this respect
Northern Italians (especially Veneti as LFS ;-) ) are masters, while Romans
and Spaniards can only dream to achieve that.

I think a bit of arrogance helps a team to play a better football and to win
more matches, while too much arrogance almost ever ruin you. I don't know if
I will live long enough to see of a better team than 1982's  Brazil, but in
same time I am pretty sure I'll hardly see a more arrogant team.
Anyway, I could give you just the opposite view: there are team who are
needing to be more arrogant to achieve something, in example England against
Brazil in last WC, and usually Mexico, Equador, Australia and Turkey NTs.
About this last, I told for years to my Turkish friends they were having a
really cute NT, but totally unable to score a goal when needed 'cause pure
timorousness, anyway it looks in past WC they were able to hop that
obstacle, at last :-)

--
Ale
http://www.sen.it

 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by Huw Morri » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 17:28:27

Quote:

> My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

What, no Wolves? How long have you been away from the UK?
 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by Zoltan Takac » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 17:15:05

You guys should see some of the greek first division's games or some lower
divisions' games from any country (but mainly from East-Europe)! And why my
opinion is valid? Because I'm from one of those countries too. :))))

 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by Faisal Zama » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 22:00:48

Quote:
> Brasilians actually feel *sorry* for the Argies now.

Lets see what happens when Brazil fail to reach 2006.. I am not sure what
FIFA will try this time around to make sure Team Nike goes through..
 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by Motterma » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 23:00:58

Quote:

> My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

> 1) Argentina NT

> 2) Real Madrid

> 3) Bayern Mnchen

> 4) Arsenal (UK)

Hmmm....

Vieira, Wenger, Pires, The Doctor.... and only 4th place?

OK, they DID have stiff competetion though.

 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by The Doct » Sun, 08 Jun 2003 00:03:42


Quote:

>On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 00:32:03 -0400, Victoria Barrett

>>My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

>>1) Argentina NT

>>2) Real Madrid

>>3) Bayern Mnchen

>>4) Arsenal (UK)

>>5) Italian NT

>>6) England NT

>>7) Manchester United

>>8) Holland NT

>>9) Boca Juniors

>>10) America (Mexico)

>So where is Brasil NT?
>And France NT ?(since you use the supporters as a parameter, they
>should be absolutely in)
>And, out of curiosity, Italian NT is there for what point/s iyo?

Typical Spoofs Fan!

My list:

1) Man U
2) Liverpool
3) Everton
4) Aston Villa
5) Man C
6) Birm C
7) Any team under McLaren's Management
8) Tottenham
9) Glasgow Rangers
10) Glasgow Celtic

--
Member - Liberal International  On 11 Sept 2001 the WORLD was violated.

Society MUST be saved! Extremists must dissolve.  
Arsenal Winners of  the FA CUp 2003!

 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by The Doct » Sun, 08 Jun 2003 00:08:16


Quote:


>> My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

>> 1) Argentina NT

>> 2) Real Madrid

>> 3) Bayern Mnchen

>> 4) Arsenal (UK)

>Hmmm....

>Vieira, Wenger, Pires, The Doctor.... and only 4th place?

>OK, they DID have stiff competetion though.

What do you expect?  She is a Spoofs fan.
--
Member - Liberal International  On 11 Sept 2001 the WORLD was violated.

Society MUST be saved! Extremists must dissolve.  
Arsenal Winners of  the FA CUp 2003!
 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by ?N¥ikuli, Willi?m » Sun, 08 Jun 2003 01:10:39

Quote:

> My personal list of the most arrogant teams in football below:

> 1) Argentina NT

> 2) Real Madrid

> 3) Bayern Mnchen

> 4) Arsenal (UK)

> 5) Italian NT

Really?

Quote:
> 6) England NT

No. Arrogant means having a sense of self-righteousness. We. Will. Win.
After all we are <insert team>. I don't think England have that. An arrogant
team doesn't respect their opposition.

I would call Bayern, Argentina, Real and maybe Arsenal, arrogant. I wouldn't
call England arrogant at all.

Quote:
> 8) Holland NT

Yes.

Quote:
> I took into account these categories:

> - Arrogance of team members themselves
> - Dismissive attitude to other teams by manager
> - Insufferable attitude of supporters
> - Whininess of team and supporters after losses
> - Pointing of accusatory fingers after losses to everyone else
> - Jingoistic press and media
> - Corrupt ethos (including the strong-arming of referees, lack of
> organisational checks and balances, governmental "assistance")

OK, all of this may apply to England, except whenever the players themselves
are involved.

Brazil?

--
 Majiin - version23

"Real football is not a backheel in midfield or those tricks that are
utterly pointless and add nothing to the match. This sport consists of a
duel between teams who are fighting to get a result. In this respect
Italians are the masters. Milan and Juve are two great teams that are
governed by a perfect tactical balance. The Spanish teams can only dream
of achieving that." - Luis Felipe Scolari

 
 
 

Arrogant teams

Post by ?N¥ikuli, Willi?m » Sun, 08 Jun 2003 01:12:07


Quote:

> As much as it pains me to say it, England.........not sure if this one is
> pure arrogance or actually ignorance but there does seem to be a lot of
> indignation whenever a "lesser" team threaten to turn England
> over......

IMO, England are not arrogant enough. They should assert themselves more and
beleive in themselves. It'd do them a world of good.

--
 Majiin - version23

"Real football is not a backheel in midfield or those tricks that are
utterly pointless and add nothing to the match. This sport consists of a
duel between teams who are fighting to get a result. In this respect
Italians are the masters. Milan and Juve are two great teams that are
governed by a perfect tactical balance. The Spanish teams can only dream
of achieving that." - Luis Felipe Scolari