Kick-ins

Kick-ins

Post by Josef Zee » Thu, 26 Aug 1993 17:37:21


Rich Coon writes that "except for the Ref insisting..."

The ref probably could have been a whole lot more relaxed about it, had the
players not tried to cheat and gain distance....
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Post by Jim DePort » Fri, 27 Aug 1993 00:50:07

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>Rich Coon writes that "except for the Ref insisting..."
>The ref probably could have been a whole lot more relaxed about it, had the
>players not tried to cheat and gain distance....

I was wondering how the kick-in would be handled. One of my pet peeves is
that on a throw-in the person taking the throw-in has to be on the exact
spot that the ball went out. Otherwise the opposing team gets the ball.
But on free kick situations the ball can be in the general area of the
infraction and nothing is said by the referee. If the team taking the
free kick takes to big of an advantage, the referee will make the team
take the free kick over again.
  Now try to figure out which rule to use on kick-ins? (-8  (and how to
enforce it...)

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Post by Steven Par » Fri, 27 Aug 1993 01:13:48


|>
|> >Rich Coon writes that "except for the Ref insisting..."
|>
|> >The ref probably could have been a whole lot more relaxed about it, had the
|> >players not tried to cheat and gain distance....
|>
|> I was wondering how the kick-in would be handled. One of my pet peeves is
|> that on a throw-in the person taking the throw-in has to be on the exact
|> spot that the ball went out. Otherwise the opposing team gets the ball.
|> But on free kick situations the ball can be in the general area of the
|> infraction and nothing is said by the referee. If the team taking the
|> free kick takes to big of an advantage, the referee will make the team
|> take the free kick over again.
|>   Now try to figure out which rule to use on kick-ins? (-8  (and how to
|> enforce it...)
|>
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I dunno about you, but I don't see the throw-in being taken on the same spot that
the ball went out at all. A lot of players take advantage and it seems to me that
only the players that move a million yards up the field don't get away with it.

As for kick-ins well does anyone want them? I haven't heard from such a person.

Steve.

 
 
 

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Post by Josef Zee » Sat, 28 Aug 1993 17:22:32

Quote:

>I was wondering how the kick-in would be handled. One of my pet peeves is
>that on a throw-in the person taking the throw-in has to be on the exact
>spot that the ball went out. Otherwise the opposing team gets the ball.
>But on free kick situations the ball can be in the general area of the
>infraction and nothing is said by the referee. If the team taking the
>free kick takes to big of an advantage, the referee will make the team
>take the free kick over again.

Actually, referees are pretty careful about where the ball is placed on free
kicks. It is just not very apparent, as there is usually a lot of activity
from the time the foul is spotted to the time the whistle has blown and play
comes to a halt. Most refs will insist on a yard or two from the spot of the
foul, which is also what is given for throwins.

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Post by Jim DePort » Sun, 29 Aug 1993 02:41:11

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>>I was wondering how the kick-in would be handled. One of my pet peeves is
>>that on a throw-in the person taking the throw-in has to be on the exact
>>spot that the ball went out. Otherwise the opposing team gets the ball.
>>But on free kick situations the ball can be in the general area of the
>>infraction and nothing is said by the referee. If the team taking the
>>free kick takes to big of an advantage, the referee will make the team
>>take the free kick over again.
>Actually, referees are pretty careful about where the ball is placed on free
>kicks. It is just not very apparent, as there is usually a lot of activity
>from the time the foul is spotted to the time the whistle has blown and play
>comes to a halt. Most refs will insist on a yard or two from the spot of the
>foul, which is also what is given for throwins.

The problem has to do with the idea that if a free kick is taken on the
wrong location, while the ball is still rolling or whatever, the only
penalty is for the team to retake the free kick, but I've seen throw-ins
taken in front or behind where the referee wants the throw-in to be
taken and the throw-in is given to the other team. I know at the premier
levels of the soccer world that there is a lot of fudging on both
free kicks and throw-ins. But at youth, college and *** leagues I've
seen these examples numerous times.

So I guess the question is:
On a kick-in, if there is wrong ball placement or some other infraction
on the kick-in, does the other team get the ball or is the kick-in
retaken?

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