why Italy lost to Irland?

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Yixing Zh » Mon, 20 Jun 1994 07:49:14


In the match of Italy to Irland, Irland played very well. Why happened to Italy?
In this match, it seemed they did not have any organization.

Mike Y. Zhao

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Amitava Dat » Mon, 20 Jun 1994 19:30:17

: In the match of Italy to Irland, Irland played very well. Why happened to Italy?
: In this match, it seemed they did not have any organization.

: Mike Y. Zhao

I wonder how Italy will ever score a goal !

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Ibiyefiebo Davi » Mon, 20 Jun 1994 20:33:58

The Italians were very organized, infact their midfielders( R. Baggio,
Donadoni, etc.) controlled the game but the Irish defense was at their
best and prevented Signori and Co. from finishing.  With due respect,
the Irish had several missed opportunities and the scoring margin could
have been wider

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Swaraj Horr » Mon, 20 Jun 1994 20:13:39

Quote:

>In the match of Italy to Irland, Irland played very well. Why happened to Italy?
>In this match, it seemed they did not have any organization.

They did have a lot of organization. It was the good defensive play
by the Irish that made them keep their one goal advantage.

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Quote:
>Mike Y. Zhao

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Swaraj Horr » Mon, 20 Jun 1994 22:54:05

Quote:


>: In the match of Italy to Irland, Irland played very well. Why happened to Italy?
>: In this match, it seemed they did not have any organization.
>: Mike Y. Zhao
>I wonder how Italy will ever score a goal !

It seems to me a lot of people are writing off Italy, too early.
I say they'll finish on top in their group.

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Swaraj Horree     "African in Canada"
************************************************************

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Shag » Tue, 21 Jun 1994 20:12:14

Quote:
>The Italians were very organized, infact their midfielders( R. Baggio,
>Donadoni, etc.) controlled the game but the Irish defense was at their
>best and prevented Signori and Co. from finishing.  With due respect,
>the Irish had several missed opportunities and the scoring margin could
>have been wider

Absolute rubbish! The Italian midfield was poor and they certainly didn't
control that area of the pitch. It's true that the Irish defence was
outstanding but with the lack of creativity and invention in the Italian
side, the strength of the Irish defence was rarely tested. Ireland should
have had a second goal and their victory was completely and utterly
deserved. If you think the Italian midfield controlled the game, how come
McAteer (a player from the English first division!) could come on and tear
them apart down the right hand side.

SHAGGY


Computing Officer, LS Support Group, Social Statistics Research Unit,
The City University, Northampton Square, London EC1V 0HB, UK

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Patrick O Conne » Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:25:33

I would say one of the most noticeable characteristics of the Irish game
is that they never allow an opposing player any time on the ball.  Even
in their own half the Italian players were being continually tackled.  I
think most players find this very unnerving, and a team playing against
Ireland may never find it's rhythm.  Consequently when Ireland play well,
the opposing team invariably plays badly.

It may not have been as noticeable on tv, but in the stand I was amazed
how difficult Italy were finding it to get out of their own half even,
at times.  I would say Ireland play a kind of "total football", where an
opponent in possession is always put under pressure, to the extent of
preventing a full back passing back to his goalkeeper.

Having said that, Ireland played very well, but I don't think losing to
Ireland is a good indicator of future performance.  Germany lost 2-0 to
Ireland in a friendly in Germany, for example.

I think Italy will play much better in their next game, and even after
Norway winning  1-0, I think the group is still wide open.

                                        Patrick O'Connell

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Sheila Lund » Tue, 21 Jun 1994 20:44:17

: Absolute rubbish! The Italian midfield was poor and they certainly didn't
: control that area of the pitch. It's true that the Irish defence was
: outstanding but with the lack of creativity and invention in the Italian
: side, the strength of the Irish defence was rarely tested. Ireland should
: have had a second goal and their victory was completely and utterly
: deserved. If you think the Italian midfield controlled the game, how come
: McAteer (a player from the English first division!) could come on and tear
: them apart down the right hand side.

WHAT??  No no no.. everyone knows that the Irish would be no match
should Charlton make his boys play tip tap passing.  Charlton is a good
coach.  Instead of making his boys play that tip tap passing in the
midfield where they know they have less experience...>and no flaming you
know this is true even Jack says is< he makes them play the long ball..
bypassing the midfielders and attacking their goal. This style of play..
with Ireland's great defensive player.. McGrath was what caught Italy
off guard.. not to mention the fact that Ireland is in top form.. and why
shouldn't they be??  They have some MU folks and some other great English
players on their roster.. not to mention their coach.. ehhehehe..
Although I would have liked to see Italy win.. >since I love their style<..
McGrath, and Keane <in the second half> were the two players who were
instrumental in Ireland winning..>oh let's not forget the goal producer
either. hehehe<  Italy did dominate majority of the game.. but luck was
with the Irish.. ehhehhee.. I think the Italians need to get some of
those four leaf clovers. heehee

Sheila Lundie

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Stein Ommund Wasb » Tue, 21 Jun 1994 20:57:33


[Ireland-Italy analysis deleted]

|>
|> I think Italy will play much better in their next game, and even after
|> Norway winning  1-0, I think the group is still wide open.
|>

I agree. Some say that Ireland and Norway are practically through the first
round. I would be very careful with such predictions. A team can easily become
4th with 3 points. It is a tough group, and still 'anything' can happen.

|>                                   Patrick O'Connell

--
Stein

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Donall Tuom » Tue, 21 Jun 1994 16:32:06


Quote:
>: Absolute rubbish! The Italian midfield was poor and they certainly didn't
>: control that area of the pitch. It's true that the Irish defence was
>: outstanding but with the lack of creativity and invention in the Italian
>: side, the strength of the Irish defence was rarely tested. Ireland should
>: have had a second goal and their victory was completely and utterly
>: deserved. If you think the Italian midfield controlled the game, how come
>: McAteer (a player from the English first division!) could come on and tear
>: them apart down the right hand side.

>WHAT??  No no no.. everyone knows that the Irish would be no match
>should Charlton make his boys play tip tap passing.  Charlton is a good
>coach.  Instead of making his boys play that tip tap passing in the
>midfield where they know they have less experience...>and no flaming you
>know this is true even Jack says is< he makes them play the long ball..
>bypassing the midfielders and attacking their goal. This style of play..
>with Ireland's great defensive player.. McGrath was what caught Italy
>off guard.. not to mention the fact that Ireland is in top form.. and why
>shouldn't they be??  They have some MU folks and some other great English
>players on their roster.. not to mention their coach.. ehhehehe..
>Although I would have liked to see Italy win.. >since I love their style<..
>McGrath, and Keane <in the second half> were the two players who were
>instrumental in Ireland winning..>oh let's not forget the goal producer
>either. hehehe<  Italy did dominate majority of the game.. but luck was
>with the Irish.. ehhehhee.. I think the Italians need to get some of
>those four leaf clovers. heehee

>Sheila Lundie


Sheila,
Go *** yourself as you obviously don't have a clue

regards,
Donall

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by JON ATLE OLS » Tue, 21 Jun 1994 22:06:02


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>[Ireland-Italy analysis deleted]
>|>
>|> I think Italy will play much better in their next game, and even after
>|> Norway winning  1-0, I think the group is still wide open.
>|>
>I agree. Some say that Ireland and Norway are practically through the first
>round. I would be very careful with such predictions. A team can easily become
>4th with 3 points. It is a tough group, and still 'anything' can happen.
>|>                                      Patrick O'Connell
>--
>Stein

        Anyone noes why signori was taken off in this match,
        he was 10 times greater then Baggio!!! And why didn't
        Berti played. Baresi -eh what a joke... and the goalkeeper Paggy'
        from Sampdoria played worse than Tomas Ravelli....

        Are they really that unstable?

jon

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Richard Scrive » Tue, 21 Jun 1994 22:58:02


Quote:

>>I wonder how Italy will ever score a goal !

>It seems to me a lot of people are writing off Italy, too early.
>I say they'll finish on top in their group.

Well I think they haven't a hope of winning the group.  Ireland did everything
right to beat Italy, now it is up to the Italians to realise that they
do not deserve a win because they can play pretty football, or they will
lose again to Norway and be in a huge panic for their final game.  

This is turning out to be a very interesting WC, as far as I can see Germany
are so far the only pre-match favourites to win a game.  At the present
rate one of the big teams could certainly find themselves out in the first
round.

Rich

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Ismael E. Carrer » Wed, 22 Jun 1994 01:39:19


Quote:

>    Anyone noes why signori was taken off in this match,
>    he was 10 times greater then Baggio!!! And why didn't
>    Berti played. Baresi -eh what a joke... and the goalkeeper Paggy'
>    from Sampdoria played worse than Tomas Ravelli....

>    Are they really that unstable?

> jon

Berti came in during the final 10 minutes of the match. They could have
used him much earlier, I thought, as his size makes for a fine target
player up front. I was very surprised he did not start.

Ismael E. Carreras

Boston College
Graduate School of Education

-- If you've enjoyed this post half as much as I've enjoyed writing, then
I've enjoyed it twice as much as you.

 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by HARNEK SIN » Fri, 24 Jun 1994 01:11:51

   Let's give the credit to the Irish.  They achieved what they aimed.
 
 
 

why Italy lost to Irland?

Post by Charlat » Thu, 23 Jun 1994 17:34:48

: The Italians were very organized, infact their midfielders( R. Baggio,
: Donadoni, etc.) controlled the game but the Irish defense was at their
: best and prevented Signori and Co. from finishing.  With due respect,
: the Irish had several missed opportunities and the scoring margin could
: have been wider

Nope! Even the midfielders can control the ball well, this doesn't mean that they
can control the game! The Italian midfielders did nothing to penetrate to the back
half of the Ireland pitch. You may say, and it is, that Ireland defence is solid.
However, the italian cannot organise their attack well! They don't even have chance in
their own half.        

Charlatan