Italy win win the world cup

Italy win win the world cup

Post by Raja, The Grea » Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:45:56


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/page/worldcup101-03192...

Nice article.
The Eliminator: Who will win?
Email Print Share
By Paul Carr
ESPN Stats & Information
(Archive)
Some people consider picking a World Cup champion an art. Some
consider it a science. Some take the easy way out and always choose
Brazil. That isn't a bad strategy, since it has proven to be right
five times in 18 World Cups. But automatically picking the favorite
isn't the most entertaining way to prognosticate.

The Eliminator is.

The Eliminator doesn't pick a winner. It chooses 31 losers, using
historical statistics and trends to identify the traits of a champion
and apply those criteria to this year's teams, banishing countries a
few at a time until only one is left standing. Here we go ...

? We'll start with the minnows. Since FIFA began its world rankings in
1993, no country outside the top 20 has won the World Cup. The
rankings are often disparaged, and they will change before the
tournament, but we can safely knock out any country currently outside
the top 60. Goodbye to New Zealand (80th), North Korea (102nd) and
host country South Africa (81st).

? No European country has ever won after suffering more than one
qualifying loss. That eliminates Greece, Serbia, Slovakia and
Slovenia. No real surprises there.

? No country has ever won the World Cup after finishing fourth or
worse in its final qualifying group. This applies only to CONMEBOL in
this cycle, and the rule eliminates a pair of two-time champions in
Argentina and Uruguay.

? While we're in South America, let's point out that no country has
ever won after allowing more than one goal per game in qualifying.
Adios, Chile (22 goals allowed in 18 matches).

? Every champion except one (1958 Brazil, which played only two
qualifiers) has averaged at least 1.5 goals per game in qualifying.
Australia, Paraguay and Algeria may exit stage left.

? Aside from the first two World Cups, no country has ever won without
reaching at least the quarterfinals in a previous tournament. See ya,
Ghana, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Japan and Nigeria.

? Using this step earlier would have simplified the process but also
would have deprived us all of so much fun: No country from Africa or
Asia has ever won. Goodbye to Cameroon and South Korea.

? Brazil is the only country to win a World Cup in the opposite
hemisphere, from an East/West standpoint. Plus no CONCACAF country has
ever won. That's a double whammy for Mexico and the United States.

? As counterintuitive as this may sound, the only European country to
win following a perfect qualifying campaign was 1934 Italy, which
played exactly one qualifier. This drops a couple big guns:
Netherlands and Spain.

? Brazil is the only country to participate in every World Cup, and no
other country has ever emerged from Brazil's group to win the title.
That eliminates Portugal.

? Conversely, no country has ever come out of Portugal's group to win
the World Cup, which knocks out perennial favorite Brazil.

? Never has any country come out of the Netherlands' group to win the
title. Tot ziens, Denmark.

? In the past 50 years, no non-host country has won the World Cup
without having previously won a World Cup. The Swiss and their
neutrality lasted longer than expected, but the time has come for them
to depart.

? The only first-time European winners in the past 60 years are France
and England. Both won as tournament host, but neither has ever won a
World Cup outside its own borders, let alone 5,000 miles from home.

? This leaves four-time champion Italy and three-time winner Germany,
which would be a rematch of the 1982 final in Madrid, which Italy won
3-1.

Very little separates these two traditional powers, each of which has
recent and distant history working in its favor. Italy won in 2006 and
Germany took third. Italy is the only European country to win
consecutive titles, in 1934 and 1938. Germany won the ensuing World
Cup after its third-place finish in 1970.

Italy is grouped with Slovakia and has won the World Cup all three
times after playing Czechoslovakia or any of its descendents. Germany
won the 1974 World Cup, which was the only other time that Die
Mannschaft shared a group with Australia.

However, the bottom line is simple. Despite reaching the quarterfinals
in four straight World Cups, Germany hasn't won a title since the
country and its national team reunified shortly after West Germany won
the 1990 World Cup. Ciao, Germany.

Say hello to Italy, The Eliminator's 2010 World Cup champion.

 
 
 

Italy win win the world cup

Post by Pedro Dia » Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:29:07

I thought you were going to stop off-topic posts.

 
 
 

Italy win win the world cup

Post by bubb » Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:15:19


Quote:
> http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/page/worldcup101-03192...

> Nice article.
> The Eliminator: Who will win?
> Email Print Share
> By Paul Carr
> ESPN Stats & Information
> (Archive)
> Some people consider picking a World Cup champion an art. Some
> consider it a science. Some take the easy way out and always choose
> Brazil. That isn't a bad strategy, since it has proven to be right
> five times in 18 World Cups. But automatically picking the favorite
> isn't the most entertaining way to prognosticate.

> The Eliminator is.

> The Eliminator doesn't pick a winner. It chooses 31 losers, using
> historical statistics and trends to identify the traits of a champion
> and apply those criteria to this year's teams, banishing countries a
> few at a time until only one is left standing. Here we go ...

> ? We'll start with the minnows. Since FIFA began its world rankings in
> 1993, no country outside the top 20 has won the World Cup. The
> rankings are often disparaged, and they will change before the
> tournament, but we can safely knock out any country currently outside
> the top 60. Goodbye to New Zealand (80th), North Korea (102nd) and
> host country South Africa (81st).

> ? No European country has ever won after suffering more than one
> qualifying loss. That eliminates Greece, Serbia, Slovakia and
> Slovenia. No real surprises there.

> ? No country has ever won the World Cup after finishing fourth or
> worse in its final qualifying group. This applies only to CONMEBOL in
> this cycle, and the rule eliminates a pair of two-time champions in
> Argentina and Uruguay.

> ? While we're in South America, let's point out that no country has
> ever won after allowing more than one goal per game in qualifying.
> Adios, Chile (22 goals allowed in 18 matches).

> ? Every champion except one (1958 Brazil, which played only two
> qualifiers) has averaged at least 1.5 goals per game in qualifying.
> Australia, Paraguay and Algeria may exit stage left.

> ? Aside from the first two World Cups, no country has ever won without
> reaching at least the quarterfinals in a previous tournament. See ya,
> Ghana, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Japan and Nigeria.

> ? Using this step earlier would have simplified the process but also
> would have deprived us all of so much fun: No country from Africa or
> Asia has ever won. Goodbye to Cameroon and South Korea.

> ? Brazil is the only country to win a World Cup in the opposite
> hemisphere, from an East/West standpoint. Plus no CONCACAF country has
> ever won. That's a double whammy for Mexico and the United States.

> ? As counterintuitive as this may sound, the only European country to
> win following a perfect qualifying campaign was 1934 Italy, which
> played exactly one qualifier. This drops a couple big guns:
> Netherlands and Spain.

> ? Brazil is the only country to participate in every World Cup, and no
> other country has ever emerged from Brazil's group to win the title.
> That eliminates Portugal.

> ? Conversely, no country has ever come out of Portugal's group to win
> the World Cup, which knocks out perennial favorite Brazil.

> ? Never has any country come out of the Netherlands' group to win the
> title. Tot ziens, Denmark.

> ? In the past 50 years, no non-host country has won the World Cup
> without having previously won a World Cup. The Swiss and their
> neutrality lasted longer than expected, but the time has come for them
> to depart.

> ? The only first-time European winners in the past 60 years are France
> and England. Both won as tournament host, but neither has ever won a
> World Cup outside its own borders, let alone 5,000 miles from home.

> ? This leaves four-time champion Italy and three-time winner Germany,
> which would be a rematch of the 1982 final in Madrid, which Italy won
> 3-1.

> Very little separates these two traditional powers, each of which has
> recent and distant history working in its favor. Italy won in 2006 and
> Germany took third. Italy is the only European country to win
> consecutive titles, in 1934 and 1938. Germany won the ensuing World
> Cup after its third-place finish in 1970.

> Italy is grouped with Slovakia and has won the World Cup all three
> times after playing Czechoslovakia or any of its descendents. Germany
> won the 1974 World Cup, which was the only other time that Die
> Mannschaft shared a group with Australia.

> However, the bottom line is simple. Despite reaching the quarterfinals
> in four straight World Cups, Germany hasn't won a title since the
> country and its national team reunified shortly after West Germany won
> the 1990 World Cup. Ciao, Germany.

> Say hello to Italy, The Eliminator's 2010 World Cup champion.

YAY RAJA CAN CCP!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 

Italy win win the world cup

Post by Raja, The Grea » Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:49:13


Quote:
> I thought you were going to stop off-topic posts.

If you call yourself pedro and have no interest in soccer, you might
as well kill yourself.
 
 
 

Italy win win the world cup

Post by Patrick Keho » Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:14:45


Quote:
> http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/page/worldcup101-03192...

> Nice article.
> The Eliminator: Who will win?
> Email Print Share
> By Paul Carr
> ESPN Stats & Information
> (Archive)
> Some people consider picking a World Cup champion an art. Some
> consider it a science. Some take the easy way out and always choose
> Brazil. That isn't a bad strategy, since it has proven to be right
> five times in 18 World Cups. But automatically picking the favorite
> isn't the most entertaining way to prognosticate.

> The Eliminator is.

> The Eliminator doesn't pick a winner. It chooses 31 losers, using
> historical statistics and trends to identify the traits of a champion
> and apply those criteria to this year's teams, banishing countries a
> few at a time until only one is left standing. Here we go ...

> ? We'll start with the minnows. Since FIFA began its world rankings in
> 1993, no country outside the top 20 has won the World Cup. The
> rankings are often disparaged, and they will change before the
> tournament, but we can safely knock out any country currently outside
> the top 60. Goodbye to New Zealand (80th), North Korea (102nd) and
> host country South Africa (81st).

> ? No European country has ever won after suffering more than one
> qualifying loss. That eliminates Greece, Serbia, Slovakia and
> Slovenia. No real surprises there.

> ? No country has ever won the World Cup after finishing fourth or
> worse in its final qualifying group. This applies only to CONMEBOL in
> this cycle, and the rule eliminates a pair of two-time champions in
> Argentina and Uruguay.

> ? While we're in South America, let's point out that no country has
> ever won after allowing more than one goal per game in qualifying.
> Adios, Chile (22 goals allowed in 18 matches).

> ? Every champion except one (1958 Brazil, which played only two
> qualifiers) has averaged at least 1.5 goals per game in qualifying.
> Australia, Paraguay and Algeria may exit stage left.

> ? Aside from the first two World Cups, no country has ever won without
> reaching at least the quarterfinals in a previous tournament. See ya,
> Ghana, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Japan and Nigeria.

> ? Using this step earlier would have simplified the process but also
> would have deprived us all of so much fun: No country from Africa or
> Asia has ever won. Goodbye to Cameroon and South Korea.

> ? Brazil is the only country to win a World Cup in the opposite
> hemisphere, from an East/West standpoint. Plus no CONCACAF country has
> ever won. That's a double whammy for Mexico and the United States.

> ? As counterintuitive as this may sound, the only European country to
> win following a perfect qualifying campaign was 1934 Italy, which
> played exactly one qualifier. This drops a couple big guns:
> Netherlands and Spain.

> ? Brazil is the only country to participate in every World Cup, and no
> other country has ever emerged from Brazil's group to win the title.
> That eliminates Portugal.

> ? Conversely, no country has ever come out of Portugal's group to win
> the World Cup, which knocks out perennial favorite Brazil.

> ? Never has any country come out of the Netherlands' group to win the
> title. Tot ziens, Denmark.

> ? In the past 50 years, no non-host country has won the World Cup
> without having previously won a World Cup. The Swiss and their
> neutrality lasted longer than expected, but the time has come for them
> to depart.

> ? The only first-time European winners in the past 60 years are France
> and England. Both won as tournament host, but neither has ever won a
> World Cup outside its own borders, let alone 5,000 miles from home.

> ? This leaves four-time champion Italy and three-time winner Germany,
> which would be a rematch of the 1982 final in Madrid, which Italy won
> 3-1.

> Very little separates these two traditional powers, each of which has
> recent and distant history working in its favor. Italy won in 2006 and
> Germany took third. Italy is the only European country to win
> consecutive titles, in 1934 and 1938. Germany won the ensuing World
> Cup after its third-place finish in 1970.

> Italy is grouped with Slovakia and has won the World Cup all three
> times after playing Czechoslovakia or any of its descendents. Germany
> won the 1974 World Cup, which was the only other time that Die
> Mannschaft shared a group with Australia.

> However, the bottom line is simple. Despite reaching the quarterfinals
> in four straight World Cups, Germany hasn't won a title since the
> country and its national team reunified shortly after West Germany won
> the 1990 World Cup. Ciao, Germany.

> Say hello to Italy, The Eliminator's 2010 World Cup champion.

++ ITALY???????????????? They were the joke winner last time...
totally outplayed and fluked it out... the 2006 world cup winners
Italy by FAR the weakest winning side in the last 40 years relative to
the best teams... AND BORING beyond belief!!!!!!!

P

 
 
 

Italy win win the world cup

Post by Insane Rante » Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:54:25

*sigh* I hope not.
 
 
 

Italy win win the world cup

Post by Lord of Wa » Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:50:16


Quote:

> >http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/page/worldcup101-03192...

> > Nice article.
> > The Eliminator: Who will win?
> > Email Print Share
> > By Paul Carr
> > ESPN Stats & Information
> > (Archive)
> > Some people consider picking a World Cup champion an art. Some
> > consider it a science. Some take the easy way out and always choose
> > Brazil. That isn't a bad strategy, since it has proven to be right
> > five times in 18 World Cups. But automatically picking the favorite
> > isn't the most entertaining way to prognosticate.

> > The Eliminator is.

> > The Eliminator doesn't pick a winner. It chooses 31 losers, using
> > historical statistics and trends to identify the traits of a champion
> > and apply those criteria to this year's teams, banishing countries a
> > few at a time until only one is left standing. Here we go ...

> > ? We'll start with the minnows. Since FIFA began its world rankings in
> > 1993, no country outside the top 20 has won the World Cup. The
> > rankings are often disparaged, and they will change before the
> > tournament, but we can safely knock out any country currently outside
> > the top 60. Goodbye to New Zealand (80th), North Korea (102nd) and
> > host country South Africa (81st).

> > ? No European country has ever won after suffering more than one
> > qualifying loss. That eliminates Greece, Serbia, Slovakia and
> > Slovenia. No real surprises there.

> > ? No country has ever won the World Cup after finishing fourth or
> > worse in its final qualifying group. This applies only to CONMEBOL in
> > this cycle, and the rule eliminates a pair of two-time champions in
> > Argentina and Uruguay.

> > ? While we're in South America, let's point out that no country has
> > ever won after allowing more than one goal per game in qualifying.
> > Adios, Chile (22 goals allowed in 18 matches).

> > ? Every champion except one (1958 Brazil, which played only two
> > qualifiers) has averaged at least 1.5 goals per game in qualifying.
> > Australia, Paraguay and Algeria may exit stage left.

> > ? Aside from the first two World Cups, no country has ever won without
> > reaching at least the quarterfinals in a previous tournament. See ya,
> > Ghana, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Japan and Nigeria.

> > ? Using this step earlier would have simplified the process but also
> > would have deprived us all of so much fun: No country from Africa or
> > Asia has ever won. Goodbye to Cameroon and South Korea.

> > ? Brazil is the only country to win a World Cup in the opposite
> > hemisphere, from an East/West standpoint. Plus no CONCACAF country has
> > ever won. That's a double whammy for Mexico and the United States.

> > ? As counterintuitive as this may sound, the only European country to
> > win following a perfect qualifying campaign was 1934 Italy, which
> > played exactly one qualifier. This drops a couple big guns:
> > Netherlands and Spain.

> > ? Brazil is the only country to participate in every World Cup, and no
> > other country has ever emerged from Brazil's group to win the title.
> > That eliminates Portugal.

> > ? Conversely, no country has ever come out of Portugal's group to win
> > the World Cup, which knocks out perennial favorite Brazil.

> > ? Never has any country come out of the Netherlands' group to win the
> > title. Tot ziens, Denmark.

> > ? In the past 50 years, no non-host country has won the World Cup
> > without having previously won a World Cup. The Swiss and their
> > neutrality lasted longer than expected, but the time has come for them
> > to depart.

> > ? The only first-time European winners in the past 60 years are France
> > and England. Both won as tournament host, but neither has ever won a
> > World Cup outside its own borders, let alone 5,000 miles from home.

> > ? This leaves four-time champion Italy and three-time winner Germany,
> > which would be a rematch of the 1982 final in Madrid, which Italy won
> > 3-1.

> > Very little separates these two traditional powers, each of which has
> > recent and distant history working in its favor. Italy won in 2006 and
> > Germany took third. Italy is the only European country to win
> > consecutive titles, in 1934 and 1938. Germany won the ensuing World
> > Cup after its third-place finish in 1970.

> > Italy is grouped with Slovakia and has won the World Cup all three
> > times after playing Czechoslovakia or any of its descendents. Germany
> > won the 1974 World Cup, which was the only other time that Die
> > Mannschaft shared a group with Australia.

> > However, the bottom line is simple. Despite reaching the quarterfinals
> > in four straight World Cups, Germany hasn't won a title since the
> > country and its national team reunified shortly after West Germany won
> > the 1990 World Cup. Ciao, Germany.

> > Say hello to Italy, The Eliminator's 2010 World Cup champion.

> ++ ITALY???????????????? They were the joke winner last time...
> totally outplayed and fluked it out... the 2006 world cup winners
> Italy by FAR the weakest winning side in the last 40 years relative to
> the best teams... AND BORING beyond belief!!!!!!!

> P- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

They scored the second most goals and had the least against. The game
vs germany was by far the mosr exciting in recent history. Boring????
Weak???? Are you talking about Italy or yourself???
 
 
 

Italy win win the world cup

Post by Raja, The Grea » Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:27:22


Quote:


> > >http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/page/worldcup101-03192...

> > > Nice article.
> > > The Eliminator: Who will win?
> > > Email Print Share
> > > By Paul Carr
> > > ESPN Stats & Information
> > > (Archive)
> > > Some people consider picking a World Cup champion an art. Some
> > > consider it a science. Some take the easy way out and always choose
> > > Brazil. That isn't a bad strategy, since it has proven to be right
> > > five times in 18 World Cups. But automatically picking the favorite
> > > isn't the most entertaining way to prognosticate.

> > > The Eliminator is.

> > > The Eliminator doesn't pick a winner. It chooses 31 losers, using
> > > historical statistics and trends to identify the traits of a champion
> > > and apply those criteria to this year's teams, banishing countries a
> > > few at a time until only one is left standing. Here we go ...

> > > ? We'll start with the minnows. Since FIFA began its world rankings in
> > > 1993, no country outside the top 20 has won the World Cup. The
> > > rankings are often disparaged, and they will change before the
> > > tournament, but we can safely knock out any country currently outside
> > > the top 60. Goodbye to New Zealand (80th), North Korea (102nd) and
> > > host country South Africa (81st).

> > > ? No European country has ever won after suffering more than one
> > > qualifying loss. That eliminates Greece, Serbia, Slovakia and
> > > Slovenia. No real surprises there.

> > > ? No country has ever won the World Cup after finishing fourth or
> > > worse in its final qualifying group. This applies only to CONMEBOL in
> > > this cycle, and the rule eliminates a pair of two-time champions in
> > > Argentina and Uruguay.

> > > ? While we're in South America, let's point out that no country has
> > > ever won after allowing more than one goal per game in qualifying.
> > > Adios, Chile (22 goals allowed in 18 matches).

> > > ? Every champion except one (1958 Brazil, which played only two
> > > qualifiers) has averaged at least 1.5 goals per game in qualifying.
> > > Australia, Paraguay and Algeria may exit stage left.

> > > ? Aside from the first two World Cups, no country has ever won without
> > > reaching at least the quarterfinals in a previous tournament. See ya,
> > > Ghana, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Japan and Nigeria.

> > > ? Using this step earlier would have simplified the process but also
> > > would have deprived us all of so much fun: No country from Africa or
> > > Asia has ever won. Goodbye to Cameroon and South Korea.

> > > ? Brazil is the only country to win a World Cup in the opposite
> > > hemisphere, from an East/West standpoint. Plus no CONCACAF country has
> > > ever won. That's a double whammy for Mexico and the United States.

> > > ? As counterintuitive as this may sound, the only European country to
> > > win following a perfect qualifying campaign was 1934 Italy, which
> > > played exactly one qualifier. This drops a couple big guns:
> > > Netherlands and Spain.

> > > ? Brazil is the only country to participate in every World Cup, and no
> > > other country has ever emerged from Brazil's group to win the title.
> > > That eliminates Portugal.

> > > ? Conversely, no country has ever come out of Portugal's group to win
> > > the World Cup, which knocks out perennial favorite Brazil.

> > > ? Never has any country come out of the Netherlands' group to win the
> > > title. Tot ziens, Denmark.

> > > ? In the past 50 years, no non-host country has won the World Cup
> > > without having previously won a World Cup. The Swiss and their
> > > neutrality lasted longer than expected, but the time has come for them
> > > to depart.

> > > ? The only first-time European winners in the past 60 years are France
> > > and England. Both won as tournament host, but neither has ever won a
> > > World Cup outside its own borders, let alone 5,000 miles from home.

> > > ? This leaves four-time champion Italy and three-time winner Germany,
> > > which would be a rematch of the 1982 final in Madrid, which Italy won
> > > 3-1.

> > > Very little separates these two traditional powers, each of which has
> > > recent and distant history working in its favor. Italy won in 2006 and
> > > Germany took third. Italy is the only European country to win
> > > consecutive titles, in 1934 and 1938. Germany won the ensuing World
> > > Cup after its third-place finish in 1970.

> > > Italy is grouped with Slovakia and has won the World Cup all three
> > > times after playing Czechoslovakia or any of its descendents. Germany
> > > won the 1974 World Cup, which was the only other time that Die
> > > Mannschaft shared a group with Australia.

> > > However, the bottom line is simple. Despite reaching the quarterfinals
> > > in four straight World Cups, Germany hasn't won a title since the
> > > country and its national team reunified shortly after West Germany won
> > > the 1990 World Cup. Ciao, Germany.

> > > Say hello to Italy, The Eliminator's 2010 World Cup champion.

> > ++ ITALY???????????????? They were the joke winner last time...
> > totally outplayed and fluked it out... the 2006 world cup winners
> > Italy by FAR the weakest winning side in the last 40 years relative to
> > the best teams... AND BORING beyond belief!!!!!!!

> They scored the second most goals and had the least against. The game
> vs germany was by far the mosr exciting in recent history. Boring????
> Weak???? Are you talking about Italy or yourself???- Hide quoted text -

A lot of people hate Italy. Its a racist thing. And also Italy have a
history of defensive and dull football. But they werent boring in
2006.
 
 
 

Italy win win the world cup

Post by Lord of Wa » Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:05:58


Quote:



> > > >http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/page/worldcup101-03192...

> > > > Nice article.
> > > > The Eliminator: Who will win?
> > > > Email Print Share
> > > > By Paul Carr
> > > > ESPN Stats & Information
> > > > (Archive)
> > > > Some people consider picking a World Cup champion an art. Some
> > > > consider it a science. Some take the easy way out and always choose
> > > > Brazil. That isn't a bad strategy, since it has proven to be right
> > > > five times in 18 World Cups. But automatically picking the favorite
> > > > isn't the most entertaining way to prognosticate.

> > > > The Eliminator is.

> > > > The Eliminator doesn't pick a winner. It chooses 31 losers, using
> > > > historical statistics and trends to identify the traits of a champion
> > > > and apply those criteria to this year's teams, banishing countries a
> > > > few at a time until only one is left standing. Here we go ...

> > > > ? We'll start with the minnows. Since FIFA began its world rankings in
> > > > 1993, no country outside the top 20 has won the World Cup. The
> > > > rankings are often disparaged, and they will change before the
> > > > tournament, but we can safely knock out any country currently outside
> > > > the top 60. Goodbye to New Zealand (80th), North Korea (102nd) and
> > > > host country South Africa (81st).

> > > > ? No European country has ever won after suffering more than one
> > > > qualifying loss. That eliminates Greece, Serbia, Slovakia and
> > > > Slovenia. No real surprises there.

> > > > ? No country has ever won the World Cup after finishing fourth or
> > > > worse in its final qualifying group. This applies only to CONMEBOL in
> > > > this cycle, and the rule eliminates a pair of two-time champions in
> > > > Argentina and Uruguay.

> > > > ? While we're in South America, let's point out that no country has
> > > > ever won after allowing more than one goal per game in qualifying.
> > > > Adios, Chile (22 goals allowed in 18 matches).

> > > > ? Every champion except one (1958 Brazil, which played only two
> > > > qualifiers) has averaged at least 1.5 goals per game in qualifying.
> > > > Australia, Paraguay and Algeria may exit stage left.

> > > > ? Aside from the first two World Cups, no country has ever won without
> > > > reaching at least the quarterfinals in a previous tournament. See ya,
> > > > Ghana, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Japan and Nigeria.

> > > > ? Using this step earlier would have simplified the process but also
> > > > would have deprived us all of so much fun: No country from Africa or
> > > > Asia has ever won. Goodbye to Cameroon and South Korea.

> > > > ? Brazil is the only country to win a World Cup in the opposite
> > > > hemisphere, from an East/West standpoint. Plus no CONCACAF country has
> > > > ever won. That's a double whammy for Mexico and the United States.

> > > > ? As counterintuitive as this may sound, the only European country to
> > > > win following a perfect qualifying campaign was 1934 Italy, which
> > > > played exactly one qualifier. This drops a couple big guns:
> > > > Netherlands and Spain.

> > > > ? Brazil is the only country to participate in every World Cup, and no
> > > > other country has ever emerged from Brazil's group to win the title.
> > > > That eliminates Portugal.

> > > > ? Conversely, no country has ever come out of Portugal's group to win
> > > > the World Cup, which knocks out perennial favorite Brazil.

> > > > ? Never has any country come out of the Netherlands' group to win the
> > > > title. Tot ziens, Denmark.

> > > > ? In the past 50 years, no non-host country has won the World Cup
> > > > without having previously won a World Cup. The Swiss and their
> > > > neutrality lasted longer than expected, but the time has come for them
> > > > to depart.

> > > > ? The only first-time European winners in the past 60 years are France
> > > > and England. Both won as tournament host, but neither has ever won a
> > > > World Cup outside its own borders, let alone 5,000 miles from home.

> > > > ? This leaves four-time champion Italy and three-time winner Germany,
> > > > which would be a rematch of the 1982 final in Madrid, which Italy won
> > > > 3-1.

> > > > Very little separates these two traditional powers, each of which has
> > > > recent and distant history working in its favor. Italy won in 2006 and
> > > > Germany took third. Italy is the only European country to win
> > > > consecutive titles, in 1934 and 1938. Germany won the ensuing World
> > > > Cup after its third-place finish in 1970.

> > > > Italy is grouped with Slovakia and has won the World Cup all three
> > > > times after playing Czechoslovakia or any of its descendents. Germany
> > > > won the 1974 World Cup, which was the only other time that Die
> > > > Mannschaft shared a group with Australia.

> > > > However, the bottom line is simple. Despite reaching the quarterfinals
> > > > in four straight World Cups, Germany hasn't won a title since the
> > > > country and its national team reunified shortly after West Germany won
> > > > the 1990 World Cup. Ciao, Germany.

> > > > Say hello to Italy, The Eliminator's 2010 World Cup champion.

> > > ++ ITALY???????????????? They were the joke winner last time...
> > > totally outplayed and fluked it out... the 2006 world cup winners
> > > Italy by FAR the weakest winning side in the last 40 years relative to
> > > the best teams... AND BORING beyond belief!!!!!!!

> > They scored the second most goals and had the least against. The game
> > vs germany was by far the mosr exciting in recent history. Boring????
> > Weak???? Are you talking about Italy or yourself???- Hide quoted text -

> A lot of people hate Italy. Its a racist thing. And also Italy have a
> history of defensive and dull football. But they werent boring in
> 2006.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Yes, I agree alot of people hate the Azzurri. However, during the last
world cup where I live (Toronto, Canada) a sports show had a story a
few days after the final and they showed that the Azzurri are by far
the most liked and celebrated national team in the world even by non-
italians. They showed how even in Brazil, Brazilians cheered the
Azzurri on after Brazil was sent packing. The journalist doing the
story even went further by calling all Azzurri fans "The Azzurri
Nation". The Azzurri seem to be hated by two groups. The Australians
and the French. The astralians hate them becasue they fell they where
done hard by the Azzurri in the world cup and French hate the Azzurri
because from the national sides to the club sides Italy always wins
more trophies than france. Also, Italy has reall Italians on their
national team and France gets their national team players form poor
slums in north africa.
 
 
 

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Post by Deepp » Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:26:42


Quote:

> > A lot of people hate Italy. Its a racist thing.
> Italy has reall Italians on their
> national team and France gets their national team players form poor
> slums in north africa.

..................You were saying Raja?
 
 
 

Italy win win the world cup

Post by MH » Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:51:54

Quote:

> http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/page/worldcup101-03192...

> Nice article.
> The Eliminator: Who will win?
> Email Print Share
> By Paul Carr
> ESPN Stats & Information
> (Archive)
> Some people consider picking a World Cup champion an art. Some
> consider it a science. Some take the easy way out and always choose
> Brazil. That isn't a bad strategy, since it has proven to be right
> five times in 18 World Cups. But automatically picking the favorite
> isn't the most entertaining way to prognosticate.

> The Eliminator is.

> The Eliminator doesn't pick a winner. It chooses 31 losers, using
> historical statistics and trends to identify the traits of a champion
> and apply those criteria to this year's teams, banishing countries a
> few at a time until only one is left standing. Here we go ...

> ? We'll start with the minnows. Since FIFA began its world rankings in
> 1993, no country outside the top 20 has won the World Cup. The
> rankings are often disparaged, and they will change before the
> tournament, but we can safely knock out any country currently outside
> the top 60. Goodbye to New Zealand (80th), North Korea (102nd) and
> host country South Africa (81st).

> ? No European country has ever won after suffering more than one
> qualifying loss. That eliminates Greece, Serbia, Slovakia and
> Slovenia. No real surprises there.

> ? No country has ever won the World Cup after finishing fourth or
> worse in its final qualifying group. This applies only to CONMEBOL in
> this cycle, and the rule eliminates a pair of two-time champions in
> Argentina and Uruguay.

> ? While we're in South America, let's point out that no country has
> ever won after allowing more than one goal per game in qualifying.
> Adios, Chile (22 goals allowed in 18 matches).

> ? Every champion except one (1958 Brazil, which played only two
> qualifiers) has averaged at least 1.5 goals per game in qualifying.
> Australia, Paraguay and Algeria may exit stage left.

> ? Aside from the first two World Cups, no country has ever won without
> reaching at least the quarterfinals in a previous tournament. See ya,
> Ghana, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Japan and Nigeria.

> ? Using this step earlier would have simplified the process but also
> would have deprived us all of so much fun: No country from Africa or
> Asia has ever won. Goodbye to Cameroon and South Korea.

> ? Brazil is the only country to win a World Cup in the opposite
> hemisphere, from an East/West standpoint. Plus no CONCACAF country has
> ever won. That's a double whammy for Mexico and the United States.

> ? As counterintuitive as this may sound, the only European country to
> win following a perfect qualifying campaign was 1934 Italy, which
> played exactly one qualifier. This drops a couple big guns:
> Netherlands and Spain.

> ? Brazil is the only country to participate in every World Cup, and no
> other country has ever emerged from Brazil's group to win the title.
> That eliminates Portugal.

> ? Conversely, no country has ever come out of Portugal's group to win
> the World Cup, which knocks out perennial favorite Brazil.

> ? Never has any country come out of the Netherlands' group to win the
> title. Tot ziens, Denmark.

> ? In the past 50 years, no non-host country has won the World Cup
> without having previously won a World Cup. The Swiss and their
> neutrality lasted longer than expected, but the time has come for them
> to depart.

> ? The only first-time European winners in the past 60 years are France
> and England. Both won as tournament host, but neither has ever won a
> World Cup outside its own borders, let alone 5,000 miles from home.

> ? This leaves four-time champion Italy and three-time winner Germany,
> which would be a rematch of the 1982 final in Madrid, which Italy won
> 3-1.

> Very little separates these two traditional powers, each of which has
> recent and distant history working in its favor. Italy won in 2006 and
> Germany took third. Italy is the only European country to win
> consecutive titles, in 1934 and 1938. Germany won the ensuing World
> Cup after its third-place finish in 1970.

> Italy is grouped with Slovakia and has won the World Cup all three
> times after playing Czechoslovakia or any of its descendents. Germany
> won the 1974 World Cup, which was the only other time that Die
> Mannschaft shared a group with Australia.

> However, the bottom line is simple. Despite reaching the quarterfinals
> in four straight World Cups, Germany hasn't won a title since the
> country and its national team reunified shortly after West Germany won
> the 1990 World Cup. Ciao, Germany.

> Say hello to Italy, The Eliminator's 2010 World Cup champion.

Cute, but one could just as easily have eliminated Italy at the very
beginning.  eg. by saying no European WC winner has ever defended its
title outside of Europe.  Or no team that has qualified from a group
containing Ireland has ever won the WC.
 
 
 

Italy win win the world cup

Post by Abubak » Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:35:03


Quote:

> >http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/page/worldcup101-03192...

> > Nice article.
> > The Eliminator: Who will win?
> > Email Print Share
> > By Paul Carr
> > ESPN Stats & Information
> > (Archive)
> > Some people consider picking a World Cup champion an art. Some
> > consider it a science. Some take the easy way out and always choose
> > Brazil. That isn't a bad strategy, since it has proven to be right
> > five times in 18 World Cups. But automatically picking the favorite
> > isn't the most entertaining way to prognosticate.

> > The Eliminator is.

> > The Eliminator doesn't pick a winner. It chooses 31 losers, using
> > historical statistics and trends to identify the traits of a champion
> > and apply those criteria to this year's teams, banishing countries a
> > few at a time until only one is left standing. Here we go ...

> > ? We'll start with the minnows. Since FIFA began its world rankings in
> > 1993, no country outside the top 20 has won the World Cup. The
> > rankings are often disparaged, and they will change before the
> > tournament, but we can safely knock out any country currently outside
> > the top 60. Goodbye to New Zealand (80th), North Korea (102nd) and
> > host country South Africa (81st).

> > ? No European country has ever won after suffering more than one
> > qualifying loss. That eliminates Greece, Serbia, Slovakia and
> > Slovenia. No real surprises there.

> > ? No country has ever won the World Cup after finishing fourth or
> > worse in its final qualifying group. This applies only to CONMEBOL in
> > this cycle, and the rule eliminates a pair of two-time champions in
> > Argentina and Uruguay.

> > ? While we're in South America, let's point out that no country has
> > ever won after allowing more than one goal per game in qualifying.
> > Adios, Chile (22 goals allowed in 18 matches).

> > ? Every champion except one (1958 Brazil, which played only two
> > qualifiers) has averaged at least 1.5 goals per game in qualifying.
> > Australia, Paraguay and Algeria may exit stage left.

> > ? Aside from the first two World Cups, no country has ever won without
> > reaching at least the quarterfinals in a previous tournament. See ya,
> > Ghana, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Japan and Nigeria.

> > ? Using this step earlier would have simplified the process but also
> > would have deprived us all of so much fun: No country from Africa or
> > Asia has ever won. Goodbye to Cameroon and South Korea.

> > ? Brazil is the only country to win a World Cup in the opposite
> > hemisphere, from an East/West standpoint. Plus no CONCACAF country has
> > ever won. That's a double whammy for Mexico and the United States.

> > ? As counterintuitive as this may sound, the only European country to
> > win following a perfect qualifying campaign was 1934 Italy, which
> > played exactly one qualifier. This drops a couple big guns:
> > Netherlands and Spain.

> > ? Brazil is the only country to participate in every World Cup, and no
> > other country has ever emerged from Brazil's group to win the title.
> > That eliminates Portugal.

> > ? Conversely, no country has ever come out of Portugal's group to win
> > the World Cup, which knocks out perennial favorite Brazil.

> > ? Never has any country come out of the Netherlands' group to win the
> > title. Tot ziens, Denmark.

> > ? In the past 50 years, no non-host country has won the World Cup
> > without having previously won a World Cup. The Swiss and their
> > neutrality lasted longer than expected, but the time has come for them
> > to depart.

> > ? The only first-time European winners in the past 60 years are France
> > and England. Both won as tournament host, but neither has ever won a
> > World Cup outside its own borders, let alone 5,000 miles from home.

> > ? This leaves four-time champion Italy and three-time winner Germany,
> > which would be a rematch of the 1982 final in Madrid, which Italy won
> > 3-1.

> > Very little separates these two traditional powers, each of which has
> > recent and distant history working in its favor. Italy won in 2006 and
> > Germany took third. Italy is the only European country to win
> > consecutive titles, in 1934 and 1938. Germany won the ensuing World
> > Cup after its third-place finish in 1970.

> > Italy is grouped with Slovakia and has won the World Cup all three
> > times after playing Czechoslovakia or any of its descendents. Germany
> > won the 1974 World Cup, which was the only other time that Die
> > Mannschaft shared a group with Australia.

> > However, the bottom line is simple. Despite reaching the quarterfinals
> > in four straight World Cups, Germany hasn't won a title since the
> > country and its national team reunified shortly after West Germany won
> > the 1990 World Cup. Ciao, Germany.

> > Say hello to Italy, The Eliminator's 2010 World Cup champion.

> Cute, but one could just as easily have eliminated Italy at the very
> beginning. ?eg. by saying no European WC winner has ever defended its
> title outside of Europe. ?

Don't even need to go that refined, they could have been eliminated by
the trend that no European country has ever won a WC held outside
Europe. Easy.
 
 
 

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Post by Quinc » Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:51:00


Quote:
> However, the bottom line is simple. Despite reaching the quarterfinals
> in four straight World Cups,

There we go. Actually, Germany reached the quarterfinals in 14
(four***) straight World Cups and not in 4, so what now?
 
 
 

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Post by El Ko » Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:54:12

Quote:

> Quoting MH in rec.sport.soccer:

>> Cute, but one could just as easily have eliminated Italy at the very
>> beginning.  eg. by saying no European WC winner has ever defended its
>> title outside of Europe.  Or no team that has qualified from a group
>> containing Ireland has ever won the WC.

> So, noone will win?

     That appears to be the logical conclusion, yes. Which invites some
macabre predictions. :)

--
No, no, you can't e-mail me with the nono.

 
 
 

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Post by MH » Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:51:25

Quote:

> Quoting MH in rec.sport.soccer:

>> Cute, but one could just as easily have eliminated Italy at the very
>> beginning.  eg. by saying no European WC winner has ever defended its
>> title outside of Europe.  Or no team that has qualified from a group
>> containing Ireland has ever won the WC.

> So, noone will win?

Nope, Portugal will be disqualified for invading the Azores to put down
insurrection, Sweden will get to play instead of Portugal, and will win
the WC.