Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by starc.. » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:31:39


What I mean is a single, full-hemisphere solution...

Should it be any surprise that the United States' rating is going up
again, after feeding off a schedule with the likes of Panama, Canada,
and the rest of the garbage heap that CONCACAF serves up?

I mean, by God, _GUADALUPE_????

Combine CONCACAF and COMNEBOL -- take away about 2 full spots and a
half from the sum (giving the 2 fulls to Europe -- they should get at
least 18 anyway),and give the half to the "Rest of the World" --
basically I'd like to see three "spheres" of qualifying:

Bring back the Defender Exemption (barring Italy getting banned in the
next two years or so!)
Hosts are exempt
Americas get 5 1/2
Asia/Africa/Oceania (the "Rest of the World") get 6 1/2
Europe gets 18.

(So that would mean the final breakdown is 5 1/2 - 7 1/2 (for South
Africa) - and 19 (for Italy).)

Mike

 
 
 

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by PB » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:58:19


Quote:
> I mean, by God, _GUADALUPE_????

It's just a shame that Guadeloupe wasn't at full strength. Its team
made a great effort and pulled off a couple of upsets, but if it
could've called up native-born players like Gallas, Thuram, and
Chimbonda, it would've been a lot stronger in back. If it could also
call up players with at least one parent from Guadeloupe, like Henry,
Silvestre, Saha, Christanval, and Wiltord, it'd be a wonderful group
to watch.

Guadeloupe's contributions to world soccer are far greater than those
of Europe's current champions.

P

 
 
 

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by Jason Maxwel » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:34:11


Quote:
> What I mean is a single, full-hemisphere solution...

I agree.  If the U.S. beats Mexico, they'll finish the Gold Cup with a
positive double-digit goal differential, having only really sweated at the
end of the Canada game.

Another thing, there is NO reason for the USSF to schedule home friendlies
against a CONCACAF opponent now.  There's absolutely nothing to be gained
from it.  Maybe an occasional Mexico friendly as a cash call.

The only time we should play friendlies against CONCACAF is in the Azteca or
in Saprissa.

Jason

 
 
 

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by starc.. » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:57:02


Quote:


> I agree.  If the U.S. beats Mexico, they'll finish the Gold Cup with a
> positive double-digit goal differential, having only really sweated at the
> end of the Canada game.

> Another thing, there is NO reason for the USSF to schedule home friendlies
> against a CONCACAF opponent now.  There's absolutely nothing to be gained
> from it.  Maybe an occasional Mexico friendly as a cash call.

> The only time we should play friendlies against CONCACAF is in the Azteca or
> in Saprissa.

No reason except for the same reason that the college football powers
in the US playing Northwestern Oklahoma A&T.

Mike (An easy win and a lot of good propaganda for the fans.)

 
 
 

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by Jason Maxwel » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:03:00


Quote:




mean is a single, full-hemisphere solution...
Quote:

> > I agree.  If the U.S. beats Mexico, they'll finish the Gold Cup with a
> > positive double-digit goal differential, having only really sweated at
the
> > end of the Canada game.

> > Another thing, there is NO reason for the USSF to schedule home
friendlies
> > against a CONCACAF opponent now.  There's absolutely nothing to be
gained
> > from it.  Maybe an occasional Mexico friendly as a cash call.

> > The only time we should play friendlies against CONCACAF is in the
Azteca or
> > in Saprissa.

> No reason except for the same reason that the college football powers
> in the US playing Northwestern Oklahoma A&T.

> Mike (An easy win and a lot of good propaganda for the fans.)

But wins in friendlies don't do anything, unlike wins in college football
games

Jason

 
 
 

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by Lord of Wa » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:32:12


Quote:
> What I mean is a single, full-hemisphere solution...

> Should it be any surprise that the United States' rating is going up
> again, after feeding off a schedule with the likes of Panama, Canada,
> and the rest of the garbage heap that CONCACAF serves up?

> I mean, by God, _GUADALUPE_????

> Combine CONCACAF and COMNEBOL -- take away about 2 full spots and a
> half from the sum (giving the 2 fulls to Europe -- they should get at
> least 18 anyway),and give the half to the "Rest of the World" --
> basically I'd like to see three "spheres" of qualifying:

> Bring back the Defender Exemption (barring Italy getting banned in the
> next two years or so!)
> Hosts are exempt
> Americas get 5 1/2
> Asia/Africa/Oceania (the "Rest of the World") get 6 1/2
> Europe gets 18.

> (So that would mean the final breakdown is 5 1/2 - 7 1/2 (for South
> Africa) - and 19 (for Italy).)

> Mike

The USA and Mexico both suck. Only 1 team should be allowed from North
america. Has any team from North America ever made it to the semis of
the world cup??? Last night the USA barely beat Canada and the refs
fixed the game. Canada scored a second goal to tie the game. USA/
Mexico and the rest suck shit.
 
 
 

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by Kevin LaBerg » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:41:58



Quote:

>> What I mean is a single, full-hemisphere solution...

>> Should it be any surprise that the United States' rating is going up
>> again, after feeding off a schedule with the likes of Panama, Canada,
>> and the rest of the garbage heap that CONCACAF serves up?

>> I mean, by God, _GUADALUPE_????

>> Combine CONCACAF and COMNEBOL -- take away about 2 full spots and a
>> half from the sum (giving the 2 fulls to Europe -- they should get at
>> least 18 anyway),and give the half to the "Rest of the World" --
>> basically I'd like to see three "spheres" of qualifying:

>> Bring back the Defender Exemption (barring Italy getting banned in the
>> next two years or so!)
>> Hosts are exempt
>> Americas get 5 1/2
>> Asia/Africa/Oceania (the "Rest of the World") get 6 1/2
>> Europe gets 18.

>> (So that would mean the final breakdown is 5 1/2 - 7 1/2 (for South
>> Africa) - and 19 (for Italy).)

>> Mike

> The USA and Mexico both suck. Only 1 team should be allowed from North
> america. Has any team from North America ever made it to the semis of
> the world cup??? Last night the USA barely beat Canada and the refs
> fixed the game. Canada scored a second goal to tie the game. USA/
> Mexico and the rest suck shit.

Of course you have developed the nuances of that practice, so you would
know. Asshat.

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Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by Mang » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:03:49



Quote:

>> What I mean is a single, full-hemisphere solution...

>> Should it be any surprise that the United States' rating is going up
>> again, after feeding off a schedule with the likes of Panama, Canada,
>> and the rest of the garbage heap that CONCACAF serves up?

>> I mean, by God, _GUADALUPE_????

>> Combine CONCACAF and COMNEBOL -- take away about 2 full spots and a
>> half from the sum (giving the 2 fulls to Europe -- they should get at
>> least 18 anyway),and give the half to the "Rest of the World" --
>> basically I'd like to see three "spheres" of qualifying:

>> Bring back the Defender Exemption (barring Italy getting banned in the
>> next two years or so!)
>> Hosts are exempt
>> Americas get 5 1/2
>> Asia/Africa/Oceania (the "Rest of the World") get 6 1/2
>> Europe gets 18.

>> (So that would mean the final breakdown is 5 1/2 - 7 1/2 (for South
>> Africa) - and 19 (for Italy).)

>> Mike

> The USA and Mexico both suck. Only 1 team should be allowed from North
> america. Has any team from North America ever made it to the semis of
> the world cup???

Yes  they have.

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Quote:
> Last night the USA barely beat Canada and the refs
> fixed the game. Canada scored a second goal to tie the game. USA/
> Mexico and the rest suck shit.

 
 
 

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by starc.. » Mon, 25 Jun 2007 07:33:18


Quote:
> The USA and Mexico both suck. Only 1 team should be allowed from North
> america. Has any team from North America ever made it to the semis of
> the world cup??? Last night the USA barely beat Canada and the refs
> fixed the game. Canada scored a second goal to tie the game. USA/
> Mexico and the rest suck shit.

I mean, everyone is talking about how the World Cup qualifying is
designed to "expand the game".

The game hasn't expanded worth shit in 40 years.  It's the same
suspects that have been going out there and kicking ***since Pele
was playing.

And that's NOT going to change.

Mike

 
 
 

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by MH » Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:34:20

Quote:

> What I mean is a single, full-hemisphere solution...

This is probably a good idea.  I can't imagine the smaller CONCACAF
nations or any CONMEBOL nations liking it, though. It would mean a
preliminary round for the likes of Venezuela, Peru, Bolivia etc (at
least) and some would get knocked out and not get to participate in the
lenghty , and presumably lucrative qualifying process.

Quote:

> Should it be any surprise that the United States' rating is going up
> again, after feeding off a schedule with the likes of Panama, Canada,
> and the rest of the garbage heap that CONCACAF serves up?

If you look at CONCACAF results in the Copa America and world cup, it is
not at all clear that the bottom five CONMEBOL teams are significantly
better than the 3rd to 5th place CONCACAF teams.

Quote:

> I mean, by God, _GUADALUPE_????

> Combine CONCACAF and COMNEBOL --

OK

take away about 2 full spots and a

Quote:
> half from the sum

This is where it gets unrealistic. You want 5.5 spots for all of
CONCACAF and CONMEBOL combined ?  While leaving Asia with its current
4.5 and Africa with its current 5 (actually you propose increase these
combined by a total of .5 to 10)?  That doesn't make sense in terms of
past results.

(giving the 2 fulls to Europe -- they should get at

Quote:
> least 18 anyway),and give the half to the "Rest of the World" --
> basically I'd like to see three "spheres" of qualifying:

> Bring back the Defender Exemption (barring Italy getting banned in the
> next two years or so!)
> Hosts are exempt
> Americas get 5 1/2
> Asia/Africa/Oceania (the "Rest of the World") get 6 1/2
> Europe gets 18.

> (So that would mean the final breakdown is 5 1/2 - 7 1/2 (for South
> Africa) - and 19 (for Italy).)

> Mike

 
 
 

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by rst » Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:02:43


Quote:

> > What I mean is a single, full-hemisphere solution...

> > Should it be any surprise that the United States' rating is going up
> > again, after feeding off a schedule with the likes of Panama, Canada,
> > and the rest of the garbage heap that CONCACAF serves up?

> > I mean, by God, _GUADALUPE_????

> > Combine CONCACAF and COMNEBOL -- take away about 2 full spots and a
> > half from the sum (giving the 2 fulls to Europe -- they should get at
> > least 18 anyway),and give the half to the "Rest of the World" --
> > basically I'd like to see three "spheres" of qualifying:

> > Bring back the Defender Exemption (barring Italy getting banned in the
> > next two years or so!)
> > Hosts are exempt
> > Americas get 5 1/2
> > Asia/Africa/Oceania (the "Rest of the World") get 6 1/2
> > Europe gets 18.

> > (So that would mean the final breakdown is 5 1/2 - 7 1/2 (for South
> > Africa) - and 19 (for Italy).)

> > Mike

> The USA and Mexico both suck. Only 1 team should be allowed from North
> america. Has any team from North America ever made it to the semis of
> the world cup??? Last night the USA barely beat Canada and the refs
> fixed the game. Canada scored a second goal to tie the game. USA/
> Mexico and the rest suck shit.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Mexico was clearly the better side yesterday.  They "suck" because
their manager is clueless and failed to exploit those snails that make
up the US backfield.
 
 
 

Gold Cup comfirms need for unified-Americas qualifying for the World Cup

Post by Kevin LaBerg » Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:43:07


Quote:


>> > What I mean is a single, full-hemisphere solution...

>> > Should it be any surprise that the United States' rating is going up
>> > again, after feeding off a schedule with the likes of Panama, Canada,
>> > and the rest of the garbage heap that CONCACAF serves up?

>> > I mean, by God, _GUADALUPE_????

>> > Combine CONCACAF and COMNEBOL -- take away about 2 full spots and a
>> > half from the sum (giving the 2 fulls to Europe -- they should get at
>> > least 18 anyway),and give the half to the "Rest of the World" --
>> > basically I'd like to see three "spheres" of qualifying:

>> > Bring back the Defender Exemption (barring Italy getting banned in the
>> > next two years or so!)
>> > Hosts are exempt
>> > Americas get 5 1/2
>> > Asia/Africa/Oceania (the "Rest of the World") get 6 1/2
>> > Europe gets 18.

>> > (So that would mean the final breakdown is 5 1/2 - 7 1/2 (for South
>> > Africa) - and 19 (for Italy).)

>> > Mike

>> The USA and Mexico both suck. Only 1 team should be allowed from North
>> america. Has any team from North America ever made it to the semis of
>> the world cup??? Last night the USA barely beat Canada and the refs
>> fixed the game. Canada scored a second goal to tie the game. USA/
>> Mexico and the rest suck shit.- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

> Mexico was clearly the better side yesterday.  They "suck" because
> their manager is clueless and failed to exploit those snails that make
> up the US backfield.

Watch the second half since you obviously went to sleep at halftime. As a
matter of fact the US had more viable chances in the first half too. The USA
absolutely dominated the second half. I'd say it was an even match with the
team that deserved to win actually winning. The USA missed more chances than
Mexico even generated.

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