GERMANY v. SWEDEN [R, WC 2006/2nd Round]

GERMANY v. SWEDEN [R, WC 2006/2nd Round]

Post by Myk Camero » Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:20:39


On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:35:11 +0200, anders t

Quote:

>Poll in Aftonbladet:

>Best Swedish Player in the WC
>Ljungberg    34.1%
>Allb?ck      20.3%
>Isaksson     19.0%

>Biggest Swedish Disappointment
>Ibrahimovic  54.3%
>Larsson      30.1%
>Mellberg      3.3%

Lucic?

Myk

 
 
 

GERMANY v. SWEDEN [R, WC 2006/2nd Round]

Post by Thomas Michane » Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:10:10

Quote:
>>Lucic?

> He hasn't been disappointing.

Not overall perhaps, but he did the mistake that lead to the second goal.
Two players were focusing on Klose, and then Teddy joined in, bringing
it to three players on Klose and noone at the scorer.

--
/Thomas Michanek
WC on a single sheet: http://web.comhem.se/~u13220996/WC06/
(updated Sunday June 25)

 
 
 

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Post by Myk Camero » Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:09:25

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:36:14 +0200, anders t

Quote:

>Quoting Thomas Michanek in rec.sport.soccer:
>>>>Lucic?

>>> He hasn't been disappointing.

>>Not overall perhaps, but he did the mistake that lead to the second goal.
>>Two players were focusing on Klose, and then Teddy joined in, bringing
>>it to three players on Klose and noone at the scorer.

>Yes, you're right.

It was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I was referring to both the second
goal and the sending off. I'm quite surprised if very few people in
Sweden are focusing on Lucic's role in your being sent home.

Myk

 
 
 

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Post by Sven Mischki » Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:23:43

Quote:

> It was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I was referring to both the second
> goal and the sending off. I'm quite surprised if very few people in
> Sweden are focusing on Lucic's role in your being sent home.

Why should they? I don't think it would have changed the outcome (the
scorelien, yes, but we would have gone through anyway) if someone else
had played or he had not made any faults.

Ciao,
        SM
--
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R. Fowler: "Sure, I was an Evertonian, but I wasn't stupid: deep
down [..] I always knew that Liverpool were the better side.

 
 
 

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Post by d0ast » Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:48:47

Sven Mischkies skrev:

Quote:

> > It was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I was referring to both the second
> > goal and the sending off. I'm quite surprised if very few people in
> > Sweden are focusing on Lucic's role in your being sent home.

> Why should they? I don't think it would have changed the outcome (the
> scorelien, yes, but we would have gone through anyway) if someone else
> had played or he had not made any faults.

Oh come on, with that weak defence of yours, 11 vs 11 would have
been a completely different game. Sweden was working its way into
the game after the first 20 minutes of total chaos.

"we would have gone through anyway" You must be joking?

 
 
 

GERMANY v. SWEDEN [R, WC 2006/2nd Round]

Post by Sven Mischki » Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:55:47

Quote:

> > Why should they? I don't think it would have changed the outcome (the
> > scorelien, yes, but we would have gone through anyway) if someone else
> > had played or he had not made any faults.

> Oh come on, with that weak defence of yours, 11 vs 11 would have
> been a completely different game.

I agree. Germany had obvious problems to adjust after the player was
sent off.

Quote:
> Sweden was working its way into
> the game after the first 20 minutes of total chaos.

Sure. I was really amazed how Sweden was threatening the German goal
repeatedly and how tight their defense was - Isaksson was almost bored
to death. :)

Quote:
> "we would have gone through anyway" You must be joking?

Nope. It was one of those days. Shame we had it now, we surely won't
have two - and we would need one against Argentina.

Ciao,
        SM
--
http://www.gourockviews.co.uk
Christian Ziege: "Vom HSV lernen hei?t Siegen lernen."
R. Fowler: "Sure, I was an Evertonian, but I wasn't stupid: deep
down [..] I always knew that Liverpool were the better side.

 
 
 

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Post by d0ast » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:00:14

Very witty. For a German.
 
 
 

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Post by Sven Mischki » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:03:59

Quote:

> Very witty. For a German.

Sorry about that. *g*

Ciao,
        SM
--
http://www.gourockviews.co.uk
Christian Ziege: "Vom HSV lernen hei?t Siegen lernen."
R. Fowler: "Sure, I was an Evertonian, but I wasn't stupid: deep
down [..] I always knew that Liverpool were the better side.

 
 
 

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Post by Myk Camero » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:09:59

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:33:41 +0200, anders t

Quote:

>Quoting Myk Cameron in rec.sport.soccer:

>>It was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I was referring to both the second
>>goal and the sending off. I'm quite surprised if very few people in
>>Sweden are focusing on Lucic's role in your being sent home.

>Lucic is a "good guy". He has been absolutely loyal to the NT so many years
>now, wherever he has been placed. No controversies. That CARLOS SIMON had
>decided to help Germany by finding a Swedish red card somewhere isn't
>Lucic's fault. Lucic didn't use any more hands in the situation than the
>German did, but the German lifted his hands crying in agony, and the game
>was played in Germany.

The start of the game was a real mystery to me. Sweden's defence had
looked really solid through the group games.

Oh well. Looking ahead, I forget - who is in Sweden's EC qualifying
group?

Myk

 
 
 

GERMANY v. SWEDEN [R, WC 2006/2nd Round]

Post by Myk Camero » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:43:07

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:29:00 +0200, anders t

Quote:

>Quoting Myk Cameron in rec.sport.soccer:

>>Oh well. Looking ahead, I forget - who is in Sweden's EC qualifying
>>group?

>Oh, no one special. Just Spain, Denmark, Latvia, Northern Ireland, Iceland,
>and Liechtenstein...

Eek! Denmark are going to come out hard after failing to qualify for
the WC. Lavia, NI, and Iceland could pick up points off Sweden or
Spain too. This looks like an exciting group (for a neutral like me -
I'm sure you don't see it that way!).

Hopefully we'll get to see some of those games here - international
soccer coverage in NZ is at least improving.

Myk

 
 
 

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Post by d0ast » Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:55:09

anders t skrev:

Quote:
>                           Isaksson
>                     Mellberg    K Svensson
>          Stenman  A Svensson     K?llstr?m   E Edman
>             Wilhelm      Ljungberg     Elmander
>                           Zlatan

> Of course, the only thing we can be sure of is that the team will not look
> like this in two years time, whether we get to the EC or not... :)

Zlatan, the swedish Totti?

At least we have a goal keeper.

 
 
 

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Post by Jesper Lauridse » Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:38:31

Quote:

>Poor sods, poor Henke. Should have let Ljungberg take the PK; he knows
>Lehmann better.

Larsson did place the ball well outside Lehmann's reach, so no difference
there.
 
 
 

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Post by Jesper Lauridse » Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:48:29

Quote:

>Given that the penalty looked a bit like a dive (although I don't
>normally consider Larrson a diver) I think it's going to be hard for the
>Swedes to complain too much about the officiating here.

In a way, Sweden got the same deal as Italy got against Australia.