NAS The bad, ugly, good about getting Burnt

NAS The bad, ugly, good about getting Burnt

Post by Huss » Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:00:00


Bad:

Harty (Baldy) and Ramos both recieved their fifth yellow cards of the
season.  They must sit out the next game.  Of course, that next game
(Saturday 7/20 7:30PM EDT) is the third of our four matches with rival
Los Angeles (we lost the first two).  They are weak right now, and this
may prevent us from capitalizing.

Good:

Swept our regular season series with the Burn (0-0, 1-0, 3-2).

Ugly:

What looked like horrendous officiating at the stadium proved to be
reasonably fair upon review of video tape.

Really ugly:

Both goals from VERMES ERRORS.  This guy sucks (i've said it before,
i'll say it again) and as soon as the Metros can finish filling out the
roster he should go.  First goal: Vermes handball in the box.  Second
goal: Vermes completely boggles his first touch.

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NAS The bad, ugly, good about getting Burnt

Post by Andy & Colleen Gil » Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
>Both goals from VERMES ERRORS.  This guy sucks (i've said it before,
>i'll say it again) and as soon as the Metros can finish filling out the
>roster he should go.  First goal: Vermes handball in the box.  Second
>goal: Vermes completely boggles his first touch.

Other than the two plays above (and the handball looked to me like Vermes
couldn,t avoid it) NY/NJ looked good. I said it before, and they are showing
it now, that at seasons end they will be playing some of the best soccer in
the league. I'm a United fan all the way, but the Metrostars are my #2 team.

Boy did Tony do a good job of acting to get the ref to book Hugo!  He must
have learned something from his Broadway days.

(I'm not ready to put "Go MetroStars" on my automatic signature below. Matt
might kick me off the DC mailing list if I did that)

Andy Gill


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Post by Dan Mallon-Kraf » Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:00:00


#Boy did Tony do a good job of acting to get the ref to book Hugo!  He must
#have learned something from his Broadway days.

He did.  Watching realtime, I swore he got Tony, but the replay from the
front showed that he didn't touch him (at least on my TV  :).  However,
Hugo was doing a pretty good job of being a pain in the ass.  His antics
cost more time than they saved.

With Donadoni, the Mutts are a very dangerous team.  He was involved in
all three Mutt goals although, Ramos definitely had more of an impact on
the last one.

Dan

 
 
 

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Post by Michael W. Gilber » Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> He did.  Watching realtime, I swore he got Tony, but the replay from the
> front showed that he didn't touch him (at least on my TV  :).  However,
> Hugo was doing a pretty good job of being a pain in the ass.  His antics
> cost more time than they saved.

When we saw this live, I asked my wife whether she thought Tony
dove.  Her answer was 50% chance.  I thought more like 75%. ;-)

You're right, though, that this was a silly play from a veteran
like Hugo.  With only 1:00 to go and being down by a goal, you
don't do anything to give the opposing goalie to delay putting
the ball into play.  He certainly earned his booking.

Quote:
> With Donadoni, the Mutts are a very dangerous team.  He was involved in
> all three Mutt goals although, Ramos definitely had more of an impact on
> the last one.

Yeah, he showed good hustle down the sideline, once he
beat his first man.    Savarese really worked on both his
goals too.  He fought hard to get loose in the box.  Maybe after
the season we can give him skates and a stick and ask him
to help the Devils...

This team will be playing some fine soccer when we have 'Berto, Manny,
Tab & Miles playing together!


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Post by E M Kanitr » Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>With Donadoni, the Mutts are a very dangerous team.  He was involved in
>all three Mutt goals although, Ramos definitely had more of an impact on
>the last one.

Yep......but did ya read what Queiroz had to say?

"I think after the 10 days off it was a little difficult for Roberto.  Of
coarse he helped us a lot but you must understand it was his first game
after 10 days outside training.  He came through at the right moments of the
game, though but that he did not do it constantly for 90 minutes"

Geeez...there's no pleaseing some people

 
 
 

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Post by Henry Ko » Sat, 13 Jul 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>Yeah, he showed good hustle down the sideline, once he
>beat his first man.    Savarese really worked on both his
>goals too.  He fought hard to get loose in the box.  Maybe after
>the season we can give him skates and a stick and ask him
>to help the Devils...

Oh, yeah!  Put him in there between Richer and say, Guerin, and we'll
have some scoring (maybe - we'll see about Stephane). I wonder if Roberto
skates - I'd like to see him quarterback the  power play.........

             Cheers,

                Michael

 
 
 

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Post by ERic Vormelke » Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> > He did.  Watching realtime, I swore he got Tony, but the replay from
> >the front showed that he didn't touch him (at least on my TV  :).  
> >However, Hugo was doing a pretty good job of being a pain in the ass.  
> >His antics cost more time than they saved.

> When we saw this live, I asked my wife whether she thought Tony
> dove.  Her answer was 50% chance.  I thought more like 75%. ;-)

> You're right, though, that this was a silly play from a veteran
> like Hugo.  With only 1:00 to go and being down by a goal, you
> don't do anything to give the opposing goalie to delay putting
> the ball into play.  He certainly earned his booking.

Hey, I'm not hearing any of the Burn side in this conversation.  I'm
wondering why Dustin hasn't spoken up, apparently being the lone Burn
apologist still on NAS::-)

I am interested in getting a solid answer on one thing.

As far as I know, once a keeper has caught the ball or otherwise
collected it in play, there's nothing in the rules that says when he has
to restart things.

I know there is from a goal kick, because that's considered, in a way,
restarting the game.  However, if he saves a shot, the ball is still 'in
play.'

I remember someone telling me about an English league game where the
keeper was standing there with the ball, and an opposing striker headed
the ball out of his hands and kicked the ball in for a goal.

I also have the impression that there's a range of protection for the
keeper, and I'd like to know what it is for the US.

Apparently, it's one of the broader interpretations of the rule.  For the
English, if the keeper's outside the 6-yd box, he's fair game.  Me, I
kinda prefer that rule.  But in most of the games I've watched on the
USISL level, the keeper is pretty well protected even outside 6 yards.

So, on one hand, I don't know at all what Hugo was complaining about.  
The Burn were stupid enough to let Meola get the ball.  If you're going
to attack, the right way to do it is attack without giving the ball back
to the opponents.

Now, in regards to the yellow card, both his and Leonel's were 'I don't
like hispanics' cards, in my completely slanderous opinion.:-)

I mean, really, the way the ref diddled around giving that first yellow
card to the MetroStars player.  And then to yellow card Alvarez when the
Burn tried to quick start on what they just thought was a simple foul was
COMPLETELY, well, a total crock of excrement.

I think it's reached the point where the refs have decided that Alvarez
will be given a card a game, early, just to 'keep him in check' or
something.

Looking forward to the referee imports for next season...

Oh, and if all Tony learned to do while acting was take a dive when a
defender is three feet away from you, he could'a saved the time and
watched a few Klinsmann tapes;-)

Too bad the Snores won't be back in Dallas.  We've got our diving judge's
cards prepared for him.

ERic