NAS NBC's miserable behaviour

NAS NBC's miserable behaviour

Post by Stuart Pearc » Sun, 21 Jul 1996 04:00:00


 NBC's failure to cover the Olympic soccer tournament but for two matches
is outrageous. Do you think it has anything to do with the fact it's the
only Olympic sport with a major US league that they don't hold TV rights
for (and thus don't want to promote it or its young American stars)?

Whatever their thickheaded reasoning, I recommend:
1. A boycott of NBC's coverage with email, mail or calls letting them know
2. A boycott of NBC's advertisers with similar notification
3. Signs at televised MLS games about NBC's behaviour
4. Calls to tv sports columnists at your local papers

 I don't know if this will be a wake up call, but it's worth a try.

 
 
 

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Post by Sandy Canett » Mon, 22 Jul 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
> NBC's failure to cover the Olympic soccer tournament but for two matches
>is outrageous. Do you think it has anything to do with the fact it's the
>only Olympic sport with a major US league that they don't hold TV rights
>for (and thus don't want to promote it or its young American stars)?

Btw, what other match than the final is NBC showing? The pullout guide from
my TV Guide only shows the final. Unless, of course, I just missed the other
listing, since it was buried by tons of water polo, equestrian events and
shooting, which are all so much more popular than soccer :-)
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Post by Dustin R. Christman » Mon, 22 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Untrue.  NBC will only be showing one Olympic baseball game: USA vs. Cuba.
NBC's unwillingness to show soccer has nothing to do with soccer or NBC's
attitude toward soccer, but rather that NBC will be showing all the tradi-
tional Olympic events (track, boxing, swimming, diving, gymnastics, etc.),
a small smattering of non-traditional events, and of course, every minute
of the USA basketball games, featuring the stars of the one league it has
an exclusive national contract for:  the NBA.

That is the story.  Nothing more, nothing less.  I don't think that it has
anything to do with the fact that MLS is on ABC/ESPN.

Thanx,
Dustin

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[snip]

Do you think it has anything to do with the fact it's the
only Olympic sport with a major US league that they don't hold TV rights
for (and thus don't want to promote it or its young American stars)?

[snip]

 
 
 

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Post by olive » Mon, 22 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Btw, what other match than the final is NBC showing? The pullout guide from
>my TV Guide only shows the final. Unless, of course, I just missed the other
>listing, since it was buried by tons of water polo, equestrian events and
>shooting, which are all so much more popular than soccer :-)

N-B-$ee's schedule now includes partial coverage of both men's and women's
futbol finals LIVE.  Women's final on August 1 kicks off at 8:30pm ET,
men's final on August 3 kicks off at 3:45pm ET.
 
 
 

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Post by Jason Longshor » Tue, 23 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>a small smattering of non-traditional events, and of course, every minute
>of the USA basketball games, featuring the stars of the one league it has
>an exclusive national contract for:  the NBA.

Sorry to side with NBC here, but they announced they wouldn't show the
entire game for any USA basketball game.  I'll bet some people were really
upset.  It's just hard for one network to show all the events to satisfy
everyone.

Jason Longshore

ATLANTA RUCKUS  
D.C. UNITED

 
 
 

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Post by TheParr.. » Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:00:00

In a message dated 96-07-22 05:47:31 EDT, you write:

Quote:
>attitude toward soccer, but rather that NBC will be showing all the tradi-
>tional Olympic events (track, boxing, swimming, diving, gymnastics, etc.),

Incorrect, mon ami.  NBC has made a concerted effort to not show boxing,
especially during prime time.  True, the lack of soccer coverage has been
frustrating and has garnered some attention.  However, National Public radio
has been doing stories on the decisions not to cover boxing and i believe
that other major news outlets have expressed shock and outrage at the
decision.  NBCs answer?  "Every time we switch to boxing we immediately lose
75% of our female audience."  Dang it, you freaks, I spend every day of my
life trying to make some woman or other happy.  Sports is my only refuge and
now you tell me that if it's not female-friendly it's not to be televised?
 This is boxing we're talking about!!!  The only way you can possibly get
more Olympic than boxing is Greco-Roman wrestling and I don't think that
anybody's willing to pay 50 buck to pay-per-view a wrestling meet.  If the
Olympic audience is 40% female (extremely high for any sporting event) and
NBC loses 3/4 of them, that's a loss of only 30% of total audience.  An
increase in male audience of 50% now garners the same raw numbers in terms of
ratings, plus sells more advertising for more lucrative sponsors (out goes
Tampax, in comes Budweiser).  The final calculation: subtract 3, add 2, and
get the same number plus a $5 bill.  Problem?

Still hoping to see the home 11,
-P

 
 
 

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Post by b.. » Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:00:00



+-----
| In a message dated 96-07-22 05:47:31 EDT, you write:
| >attitude toward soccer, but rather that NBC will be showing all the tradi-
| >tional Olympic events (track, boxing, swimming, diving, gymnastics, etc.),
| Incorrect, mon ami.  NBC has made a concerted effort to not show boxing, > (
... )
| decision.  NBCs answer?  "Every time we switch to boxing we immediately lose
| 75% of our female audience."  Dang it, you freaks, I spend every day of my
+--->8

No wonder they're working with Microsoft:  NBC's native talent has obviously
missed the marketing clue bus...

(That, or they got a whopping HUGE advertizing contract from someone...)

--


 
 
 

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Post by Charles Monac » Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>Incorrect, mon ami.  NBC has made a concerted effort to not show boxing,
>especially during prime time.
>NBCs answer?  "Every time we switch to boxing we immediately lose
>75% of our female audience."

And this, in particular, is at the very root of NBC's abominable Olympics
coverage - They are not broadcasting sports, they are broadcasting a
17-part mini-series that is supposed to bring the entire family together.
Unfortunately for REAL international sports fans, their ratings have been
extraordinarily high the past few nights.  Which means that NBC is getting
what they want, while sports fans are not.  Some of the many results of
this horrific excuse for sports coverage are as follows:

 * Only a minisucle percentage of the Olympics are actually televised in
the first place, in order to beef up TV ratings for prime time

 * The sports that have the privilege of being televised are small in
number - namely, they must appeal to women: Diving, Gymnastics, Swimming,
etc.

 * NBC has taken the EXTREMELY disgusting, arrogant and emabarassing
approach of focusing EXCLUSIVELY on American athletes and teams in order to
appeal to the LOWEST patriotic or nationalistic denominator:  for example,
only American gold medal ceremonties are broadcast.

   This jingoism is perhaps the MOST disturbing aspect of their coverage -
it has made me ashamed to be an American, and I  now find myself rooting
for other nations all the time (except when it comes to football, of
course...)

 * The overproduced coverage that NBC does air is split up into miniscule
portions by onslaughts of commercials.

 * The overproduced coverage that NBC does air is split up into miniscule
portions by onslaughts of mindless, nationalistic, and sometimes racist "Up
Close And Personal" profiles.

 * NBC has EXCLUSIVE rights to ALL Olympic highlights (even if they did not
actually TELEVISE said highlights), until 24 hours after an event.

 * And, finally, although most of the American public is probably not aware
of it:   --- OVER HALF OF THE EVENTS ARE NOT TELEVISED LIVE! ---   What a
travesty!  The Olympics are in the Eastern time zone and I have to connect
to the Olympic website in order to get LIVE coverage for most of the
events!  Amazing.

All this, while our friends in Europe or Canada can tune into the LIVE,
UNBIASED World Feed almost 24 hours a day with litte or no commercials.  It
makes me so very, very sick to be an American.

Ranting and raving, with little relevance to soccer,

-charles

 
 
 

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Post by Colin Morri » Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Subject:       Re: NAS NBC's miserable behaviour
>  * NBC has taken the EXTREMELY disgusting, arrogant and emabarassing
> approach of focusing EXCLUSIVELY on American athletes and teams in order to
> appeal to the LOWEST patriotic or nationalistic denominator:  for example,
> only American gold medal ceremonties are broadcast.
>    This jingoism is perhaps the MOST disturbing aspect of their coverage -
> it has made me ashamed to be an American, and I  now find myself rooting
> for other nations all the time (except when it comes to football, of
> course...)

I came home from Euro '96 thinking that English commentators were
ludicrously biased towards England, but NBC's performance has been
far, far worse. Was anyone else competing in tonight's women's
gymnastics? It was certainly difficult to tell at times. I thouyght
the Wall St. Jornal, of all people, got it right when they said
"NBC's American flag is blocking the camera big-time.Athletes from
more than adozen countries have won gold., but it's hard to tell from
the TV coverage. When swimmer Michelle Smith captured ireland';s
first gold medal for a woman, the cameras focused on US silver
medalist Allison Wagner..."

Bottom line:- every nation's coverage is biased towards that country,
but NBC truly are the gold medalists  in this regard.

--

"Three fresh players, three fresh legs" -- Jimmy Hill

 
 
 

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Post by Henri-pierre Aiou » Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Particularly when you dont even carry any event during the afternoon......
.

That definitely leaves a small window for Live broadcast.......

           Henri

 
 
 

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Post by Ariel Mazzarel » Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>I came home from Euro '96 thinking that English commentators were
>ludicrously biased towards England, but NBC's performance has been
>far, far worse.

I may occasionally criticize the English media, but I must say that it would
have never occurred to me to put their faults at the level of NBC.

Quote:
>[snip]
>When swimmer Michelle Smith captured ireland';s
>first gold medal for a woman, the cameras focused on US silver
>medalist Allison Wagner..."

I heard a rumour that the commentator(s) insinuated that the girl had doped
her way to the gold. If that's the case, it is cluelessness to an unusually
high degree--I mean, feel free to malign anybody brown, yellow or red, but for
heaven's sake remember that everybody loves the Irish.

Ariel

 
 
 

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Post by Matt Matha » Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>   So, according to NBC, women can't read maps, and they like only events in
> which athletes wear skin-tight stuff and judges decide the winners.
>   Nice to see that several generations of feminism has managed to produced
> such an enlightened view.

Unfortunately, this 'enlightened view' is being rewarded with sky-high
ratings.  We're stuck with this form of pseudo-sports coverage for a long
time, I'm afraid.

Cheers,
--  

D.C United Supporters' Page:    http://www.clark.net/pub/mmathai/mls
--  

 
 
 

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Post by Ts.. » Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:00:00


writes:

Quote:
> This jingoism is perhaps the MOST disturbing aspect of their coverage -
>it has made me ashamed to be an American

The last time I saw Muhammed Ali on television, he was hugging Saddam
Hussein.
 
 
 

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Post by Beau Dur » Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>Bottom line:- every nation's coverage is biased towards that country,
>but NBC truly are the gold medalists  in this regard.

   So let's review the facts:
   -- NBC is trying to keep the female viewers.
   -- To that end, they are showing the sports women supposedly love, like
gymnastics, diving and swimming (granted, I'm getting awfully tired women
telling me how attractive Alexsandr Popov is)
   -- Also, NBC has its camera squarely on the home team.

  So, according to NBC, women can't read maps, and they like only events in
which athletes wear skin-tight stuff and judges decide the winners.
  Nice to see that several generations of feminism has managed to produced
such an enlightened view.
*  "I'm writing an unauthorized autobiography" -- Steven Wright
*  
*  Beau Dure    News & Record, Greensboro, NC
*  Master of Arts in Liberal Studies student, Duke University, Durham, NC
*  various other affiliations (this is not a resume)

 
 
 

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Post by Vadim F Lvovi » Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>>[snip]
>>When swimmer Michelle Smith captured ireland';s
>>first gold medal for a woman, the cameras focused on US silver
>>medalist Allison Wagner..."
>I heard a rumour that the commentator(s) insinuated that the girl had doped
>her way to the gold. If that's the case, it is cluelessness to an unusually
>high degree--I mean, feel free to malign anybody brown, yellow or red, but for
>heaven's sake remember that everybody loves the Irish.

 Found the questions the NB$ interviewer offered to Michelle Smith
after her victory to be Very rude, Very "provincial" in the worst
meaning of this word (smells like "yellow press"), extremely
obnoxious, and Very "American". You hear one sentence out
of the reporter's mouth - and you know that you're on the
US network...