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by **keith.smith1** » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 03:59:52

Quote:

> > > Most Intelligent team: England and USA
> > > > Both recognize/respect the fact that they are less talented than
their
> > > > opposition, and they have come up with some of the best tactics.

> > > what crap!
> > > england has one of the best teams on paper in the whole world.
> > > part of our problem is why the heck dont we play as well as we should
as
> a
> > > team

> > Lee, England aren't there yet. In 4 years time a player like Heskey,
> > Sinclair, and even ***(World Class? Not quite) won't make our squad at
a
> > sniff. I think what Faisal was saying is that we are tailoring our
> > present-squad beautifully to fit our opponents. And I couldn't agree
with
> > him more. After 5:1, I never doubted SGE and I never will, even in a
loss
> > against Brazil.

> What does "there" mean though?
> In 4 years time they may all be injured or crap. I think we have a great
> side now
> I think ***is world class

As do the English press. Im no ***fan at all but he has been excellent,
still if v. barrett says he isnt then he obviously is!!

but hes the kind of player no one rates which

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> suits me fine
> Im not sure Heskey has the mental capacity to be great, we need another
> Shearer to
> go with Owen and we need a Ryan Giggs on the left, and hopefully Wes
Brown
> or
> someone to replace Campbell. Put Robinson in the net and I already like
the
> look
> of our team compared to any other team in the world.
> 2 and 4 years down the line I think we might be very good but I think we
> are better
> now than we are being given credit for.

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by **Robbi** » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 04:02:22

Quote:

> > Most Intelligent team: England and USA
> > > Both recognize/respect the fact that they are less talented than their
> > > opposition, and they have come up with some of the best tactics.

> > what crap!
> > england has one of the best teams on paper in the whole world.
> > part of our problem is why the heck dont we play as well as we should as
a
> > team

> Dude doing speedbals and posting on Usenet is a No No

> If you are druggin I recomend marihuana as it at least makes you think

LOL! Didn't work on you, did it?

by **Amir.** » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 04:10:36

Quote:

> > > Most Intelligent team: England and USA
> > > > Both recognize/respect the fact that they are less talented than
their
> > > > opposition, and they have come up with some of the best tactics.

> > > what crap!
> > > england has one of the best teams on paper in the whole world.
> > > part of our problem is why the heck dont we play as well as we should
as
> a
> > > team

> > Dude doing speedbals and posting on Usenet is a No No

> > If you are druggin I recomend marihuana as it at least makes you think

> LOL! Didn't work on you, did it?

Nah stopped that hemp ***about 10 years ago

Made me paranoid

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by **Robbi** » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 04:12:19

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> Nah stopped that hemp ***about 10 years ago

> Made me paranoid

LOL! What's changed?

by **?§?i￥?-ji? W?ll** » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 04:49:16

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> Im not sure Heskey has the mental capacity to be great, we need another
> Shearer to go with Owen and we need a Ryan Giggs on the left, and
hopefully Wes Brown
> or someone to replace Campbell.

You mispelt Woodgate. Jansen or Ricketts is the future Owen partner. Maybe
Smith.

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the cops and the robbers, they both partners, they all heartless" (Mos Def)

by **wuxa** » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:14:24

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:52:41 +0100, "Lee Harris"

Quote:

>> > Most Intelligent team: England and USA
>> > > Both recognize/respect the fact that they are less talented than their
>> > > opposition, and they have come up with some of the best tactics.

>> > what crap!
>> > england has one of the best teams on paper in the whole world.
>> > part of our problem is why the heck dont we play as well as we should as
>a
>> > team

>> Lee, England aren't there yet. In 4 years time a player like Heskey,
>> Sinclair, and even ***(World Class? Not quite) won't make our squad at a
>> sniff. I think what Faisal was saying is that we are tailoring our
>> present-squad beautifully to fit our opponents. And I couldn't agree with
>> him more. After 5:1, I never doubted SGE and I never will, even in a loss
>> against Brazil.

>What does "there" mean though?
>In 4 years time they may all be injured or crap. I think we have a great
>side now
>I think ***is world class but hes the kind of player no one rates which
>suits me fine
>Im not sure Heskey has the mental capacity to be great, we need another
>Shearer to

get Scholes to start taking a second helping of black pud, bacon and
eggs every morning for the next four years and this one should be a
cinch

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>go with Owen and we need a Ryan Giggs on the left, and hopefully Wes Brown
>or
>someone to replace Campbell. Put Robinson in the net and I already like the
>look
>of our team compared to any other team in the world.
> 2 and 4 years down the line I think we might be very good but I think we
>are better
>now than we are being given credit for.

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by **Lee Harri** » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:33:49

Quote:

> > Im not sure Heskey has the mental capacity to be great, we need another
> > Shearer to go with Owen and we need a Ryan Giggs on the left, and
> hopefully Wes Brown
> > or someone to replace Campbell.

> You mispelt Woodgate.

no, that ***er can rot in Leeds reserves for all i care.

Jansen or Ricketts is the future Owen partner. Maybe

Quote:

> Smith.

Smith, hmm, I dont think he has it between the ears
Ricketts, no, a poor mans Heskey
Jansen - nope

what we need is a Shearer type to go with Owen
like imagine Heskey with ball control skills and a good first touch !
Vieri with Owen would be pretty good.
or Niall Quinn ;-)))

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> --
> "No Batman and Robin, can't tell between
> the cops and the robbers, they both partners, they all heartless" (Mos
Def)

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by **Lee Harri** » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:35:55

Quote:

> Man to Man. Argentine (with exception of Sorin and Batistuta) and
Brazilian
> (with exception of Ronaldo.. Mickey Owen is MUCH better) players are most
> definitely technically superior to the English players. Beckham may look
> more appealing than Rivaldo, but on a given day.. and simulating a Nike
cage
> match, I would have my money on Rivaldo to score the 100 goals first..

=^).

Id take Beckham over Rivaldo, but I cant argue with the other way round

Quote:

> But as a team, I would say England are superior at the moment, hands down.
> The World Cup is about team spirit and cohesion, and England has that.
> England are without Gary Neville at the back, Gerrard, Macca, Dazza in the
> midfield.. and they have the added liability of Heskey playing upfront and
> Mills playing defense.(Mills is a liability because of his short fuse, and
> general lack of respect for opponents.. Retaliation against Denmark when
up
> 3-0!!, and the game.. Corner flag incident Sweden Game). Yet they manage
to
> pull results, which says good things about their team coordination. But
> COMMON.. ***is a good team player, just as Manu Petit was a good team
> player. They are not GREAT players.

I disagree. ***is a great player, every team needs one of those, like
Deschamps
but I take your point

fwiw, I think neville, macca and dazza are not worth a place
only Gerrard would be part of it, but Butt-Scholes works well

personally I feel Butt-Gerrard with Scholes "in the hole" would be awesome
we really need a good left hand sided player.

Quote:

> The beautiful team does not always win the World Cup, the most practical
> team does. Or else we would all be banking our life savings on Senegal to
> win it all at 300:1, which I hope they do.. because I have 3 dollars on
them
> at 30:1 !! Hehe..

> If you do insist on individual plaudits.. Hehe.. I could conclude that:
> SvenGE >> (Any other coach in the World Cup).

> But then again he's not English is he? =^)

> --
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> World Cup 2002 Predictions: http://SportToday.org/~gt1383b

> > > Since when did being less talented imply being shit?? Football is a
team
> > > game, its not about individual brilliance (unless you are DIEGO
ARMANDO
> > > MARADONA). So pipe down, and stop starting a flame war, because I am
> tired
> > > of them.. =^)

> > me too,
> > I just think we are as talented a team as any other, if you include all
11
> > players I dont feel we are any worse than anyone. what do you reckon?

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by **?§?i￥?-ji? W?ll** » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:01:54

Quote:

> what we need is a Shearer type to go with Owen
> like imagine Heskey with ball control skills and a good first touch !
> Vieri with Owen would be pretty good.
> or Niall Quinn ;-)))

James Beattie was looking pretty good before his injury.

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by **Benn** » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:17:39

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> Subject : Whats this about England being shit?
>Scholes is ok, but really, you wouldn't compare him with the likes of Aimar,
>Zidane, Ballack etc etc. A few years ago maybe, when he was hitting 10+
>goals per season, but without that he's just average.

He was EXACTLY like Ballack before Veron arrived. Blame Ferguson.

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