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Lineker, a flop in La liga.
Beckham, another La liga flop.
McManaman.
Gascoigne, Serie A flop.
Henry, could not make it in Juventus and flopped in Portugal and
Korea.
Does anybody think Roy Keane would make it in Spain or Italy? The
snail's speed with which he does the defence to attack transition
bodes well for him.
Any league where players like Alan Smith or to a lesser extent Michael
Owen are considered good players is pretty much crap. Hell, Gilardino
is better than 99% of strikers in the premiership.
I think even Shearer would have floped in Italy and for the record I
like Shearer (as well as Lineker).
The Premiership has always relied on foreign players to add spice from
George Best to Giggs to Ronaldo. The English football revolves too
much around strenght, stamina, brutality so just about any leg breaker
with a decent set of lunges can get in and actually talented ones
often get lambasted for actually having football skill which in
England is considered a *** quality.
Oh well. If Vinnie Jones could make it so can everybody else including
Wayne "Clothesline" McRooney.
Andr
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> > Andr
> You are one bitter little man aren't you?
> BlueRoo
I wanted to reply to his post, but after I heard that George Best and Ryan
Giggs were 'foreign players that add spice to the Premiership', I couldn't
see the screen through my convulsion-induced tears.
> > The Premiership has always relied on foreign players to add spice from
> > George Best to Giggs to Ronaldo.
> Foreign players like George Best and Giggsy? LOL.
Andr
> They're as foreign Cristiano Ronaldo and Thierry Henry, unless of
> course you display some incredible inability to see the dotted lines
> dividing up countries on an atlas. It's probably funnier that you
> think Wales is not a different country than calling Best and Giggs
> 'foreign.'
Your paucity of grammatical comprehension is quite apparent from the opacity
of your post. Did you know that though Ryan Giggs was born in Wales, he has
lived England since age seven? Or are you trying to suggest that his
formative years in terms of football skill were the first six of his life?
For more information, please consult:
http://www.manutd.com/bio/bio.sps?iBiographyID=1626.
You are also completely ignorant of facts. George Best is from Northern
Ireland, not Ireland. The last time checked Wales was NOT a separate
country. The name of the country was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Northern Ireland. So yes, you are wrong for stating: "It's probably funnier
that you think Wales is not a different country than calling Best and Giggs
'foreign.'"
Also if you understood any English at all, you would have understood that
Andre's post about foreign players bringing spice to the Premiership (which
didn't exist in George Best's time, incidentally) was in a cultural context.
Sure, Italian football is different culturally than English football, just
like European football is different from Latin American football.
Can you stand there with a straight face and tell me seriously that Welsh
football is culturally different to English football? From the inanity of
your post, I can assume only one of two things - either you are a comic, or
you are a moron. Since, you and me originate from the same country (I am
presuming your name is not an alias), I will give you the racially-motivated
benefit of the proverbial doubt and assume it is the former.
Regards,
Schiz
> I wanted to reply to his post, but after I heard that George Best and Ryan
> Giggs were 'foreign players that add spice to the Premiership', I couldn't
> see the screen through my convulsion-induced tears.
... I have to wonder about that being him one of the most valuable
players in the Premier League and since you don't consider him as
being a foreign player !
Best Regards
RAF ... pulling your leg
> Why wasn't Giggs in England team ?!
We really need to increase the intelligence level around these parts.
Sure, they're foreign. One plays for Wales and the other for Northern
Ireland. But are they culturally 'foreign'? Is the Welsh and the Northern
Irish football style completely different from the English?
> > He is a foreign player geographically - yes. He was born in Wales and
> hence
> > plays for Wales. But in the context of Andre's original post - is Welsh
> > football culture all that 'foreign' to English football culture?
> It would have been one thing for him to say that the Premiership brings in
> players like foreign players Ronaldo, Mutu, Veron and Diouf to add spice.
> But, contextually speaking, it does sound kind of ridiculous when he says
> that the Premiership brings in foreign players like George Best and Ryan
> Giggs to add spice.
> Sure, they're foreign. One plays for Wales and the other for Northern
> Ireland. But are they culturally 'foreign'? Is the Welsh and the Northern
> Irish football style completely different from the English?
Your argument is plain silly since it rests on an amusingly tenuous
and twisted definition of 'foreign' and a weak suggestion that the
cultural context was implied. I get your point (really!) but please
don't suggest I'm a moron (since I wasn't being comic) when in fact I
am right.
Yes, Ryan Giggs was bought up in England but that is a ridiculous
argument to ise. I was bought up in England, yet would consider myself
foreign (the name might suggest that much) and a little slip of paper
telling me that 'Her Majesty asks for my safe passage throughout the
EU and other places we like' does not make me 'domestic' any more that
smothering myself in an England flag would. A player's formative years
are not recognised criteria for deciding a player's national status -
Giggs is a foreign player, and to suggest we can just lump Wales in
with England and call them the same country is insulting to Welshmen.
Secondly, I think you'll find I understand English a damn sight better
than you, and have more success reading maps. Claiming that the
premiership didnt exist in Best's time is another pedantic point that
is totally irrelevant, but anyway, who are you to say that his post
was made in the cultural context? Welsh football is certainly not
especially different, but Giggs without a shadow of doubt bought
'foreign spice' to our league with his playing style, wven if that
spice wasn't a hallmark of Welsh football. Wlesh football effectively
produced the player, and that's the reason he plays for Wales. The
first six years of his life may not have been his 'most formative' but
they were 6 years of his life.
You'll also find I'm not ignorant of the facts - I never stated that
Best was from Ireland. regarding Giggs, one encyclopedia says 'Wales
was officially de-annexed from England within the United Kingdom in
1955' and the BBC website ( a reliable, impartial source) suggests 'So
it is that the history of the British Isles still today is composed of
four countries that regard themselves as separate and different. And
the most surprising of these is Wales.' A similar situation exists
with Northen Irleand.
Sorry to be pedantic, but to be childish, you started it - I didn't
call anyone a moron. And I only replied because you were unfairly
harsh on the original poster, before you ask.
Regards,
R.
But out of that list, I'll go for Materazzi, can't believe he's
considered to be one the best defenders in Italy, a country which is
renowned for producing the best
J
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