US Cup Mexico vs USA (Final result)

US Cup Mexico vs USA (Final result)

Post by Ivor G Re » Mon, 19 Jun 1995 04:00:00


Well the USA trash Mexico 4-0, a total disaster for Mexico, Mexico basically
was kept out of the game.  I must congratulate and commend the US for a fine
performance.  I am waiting eagerly to see how they will perform against
Colombia, also how they will perform in the Copa America.  If the US can beat
or draw against teams like Paraguay, Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, then I can give
them so real respect.  But everything is premature now, not until the show a
good showing in Copa America before they will be taken seriously all over the
World.

Ivor Reid

P.S.  If the US keep this type performance they should be ready to take on
      English Team, and the English Fans an heart attack. (Ha, HA, HA)

 
 
 

US Cup Mexico vs USA (Final result)

Post by Colin Morr » Tue, 20 Jun 1995 04:00:00



Quote:
>P.S.  If the US keep this type performance they should be ready to take on
>      English Team, and the English Fans an heart attack. (Ha, HA, HA)

You can always tell it's the US Cup when sad ***ers like Ivor crawl out of
the woodwork. I don't think he's managed a single post over the last couple
of weeks without some dig at the English. Why not stick to discusiing the
wonderful performances of the US team rather than wasting your energies on
what may/may not happen if the US played England?

b.t.w this English fan is quietly delighted at the performances of the US
team and hopes they can actually translate this level of play from friendly
to competitive game in the Copa America. That's the only way they'll get the
respect they now deserve.

--

"Timeouts suck!"

 
 
 

US Cup Mexico vs USA (Final result)

Post by Ivor G Re » Tue, 20 Jun 1995 04:00:00

 Collin Morris, give me a break, what as England produce in the last two
decades or more in terms of Football, for your simple mind nothing.  The US
gets no respect at all from most of you guys, although they have shown in the
past that they can beat your team.  It amazes me that for the many years I have
been on this group the English fans are the most vocal at putting down other
countries teams (Argentina and USA in particular).  That sorry excuse of a team
is nothing more than an embrassment to good sport of footy.  England is still
in the dark ages, backwards style of AIR assualt football that just does not
work anymore.  Most of the other European teams use a combination of both style
of SA & European technique which can be shown at the great successes Italy,
German, Hollond, Sweden, etc. have accomplish.  It has reach the point now
where teams like Bulgaria, Rommania, Ireland, and little young US football
skills to name a few, has brought so much fear to a so call want to be
football power  as England.  What a joke of a team the English side is, you
guys basically stay on the net here day in day out and call every other non
English fans some of dirties words that are use in Brixton.  English you
have nothing to brag about, and therefore should not be treating the other
fans and their teams in such horrific manner.  Not until your team produces
some good results before you can talk all your tripe.  I don't see Argentine
fans on this net day in day out bragging about Argentina, they don't have to,
they are great already.  So leave the US fans alone and let them be  happy
about their accomplishments, this is something the English team has not earn
yet.  For your information I am niether an Argentine or US fan, I am a
Brazilian fan.  Have a good day all.

Ivor Reid

 
 
 

US Cup Mexico vs USA (Final result)

Post by Jay Charn » Tue, 20 Jun 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
> Collin Morris, give me a break...

(long tirade against Collin specifically and English
fans in general deleted)

Quote:
>I don't see Argentine
>fans on this net day in day out bragging about Argentina, they don't have to,
>they are great already.  

Wow!  It is obvious that you have not been around this group very long if
you think that the Argentine fans don't brag about their team.  It is only
since the WC that they have been relatively quiet.  This is not to say that
they were wrong to be proud of their team's accomplishments, but you could
never accuse them of being anything less than vocal in their support.

Furthermore, if you had spent any amount of time on this group, you would
recognize that on the whole, many of the English fans have been quite
supportive of the U.S. accomplishments leading up to and since the WC.  
Sure there are a few negative remarks, but many comments have taken the
form of honest criticism of our team's playing style and our media
coverage (or lack thereof).  Collin in particular I have found to be
quite fair and supportive in his commentary.  I look at all of this as
a necessary attempt to keep the development of US soccer in perspective.
We are not yet anything like a world power and will not be until we have
demonstrated constistent peformance over many years.  This is something
that England did in the past, and it is only since WC90 that they have
suffered a serious decline.  In the same way that our successes in the
last five years speak well for our development but do not make us a
world power, England's inconsistency in the last five years suggests
that they are having problems but should not yet be considered
inconsequential on the world stage.

--Jay

 
 
 

US Cup Mexico vs USA (Final result)

Post by Marf » Tue, 20 Jun 1995 04:00:00

I am confused.  I've seen a couple of references to the US Mexico game (in
the US Cup) as  a "friendly,'  and these references are followed by
comparisons to the coming Copa American (implying copa amrerica games are
something much more than  "friendlies").   Is there a technical
distinction that makes the games of  the US Cup (but not the copa america)
true "friendlies?"  Or are these comments simply implying that no one
cares to win the US Cup so that the US Cup matches are, in essence,
played like true "friendlies?"
 
 
 

US Cup Mexico vs USA (Final result)

Post by Colin Morr » Wed, 21 Jun 1995 04:00:00



Quote:
> Collin Morris, give me a break, what as England produce in the last two
>decades or more in terms of Football, for your simple mind nothing.  The US
>gets no respect at all from most of you guys, although they have shown in the
>past that they can beat your team.

Interesting that you cut the half of my post that praised the US
team. I guess that wouldn't have fitted in with your diatribe though.

Looking at the articles that have arrived at my site this past week,
I'd say most of those knocking the US team come from US ".edu" sites.
Of course they could all be dastardly English students in America, but
thats somewhat unlikely, no?

Quote:
> ...diatribe deleted
>I don't see Argentine
>fans on this net day in day out bragging about Argentina, they don't have to,

Ho ho, have you been asleep for four years?!

And have you checked the postings abou tEngland's recent games. I'd
categorize them as overwhelmingly critical of the ***performances of
the England team, wouldn't you?

Quote:
>they are great already.  So leave the US fans alone and let them be  happy
>about their accomplishments, this is something the English team has not earn

Quite happy to leave the US fans alone as was quite clear from my
post. My comment was more directed at the idiocy of someone who whines
two hours after the Engalnd v Brasil game that the English are
sore-losers 'cos they didn't post the result. I must have seen 200
posts about that game appear on this newsgroup... ***er.

--

"Timeouts (and ESPN) suck!"

 
 
 

US Cup Mexico vs USA (Final result)

Post by Huw Morr » Wed, 21 Jun 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

> I am confused.  I've seen a couple of references to the US Mexico game (in
> the US Cup) as  a "friendly,'  and these references are followed by
> comparisons to the coming Copa American (implying copa amrerica games are
> something much more than  "friendlies").   Is there a technical
> distinction that makes the games of  the US Cup (but not the copa america)
> true "friendlies?"  Or are these comments simply implying that no one
> cares to win the US Cup so that the US Cup matches are, in essence,
> played like true "friendlies?"

Yes, the US Cup is an invitational tournament of absolutely no meaning
whatsoever to Colombia, Mexico and Nigeria. The Copa America is the
South American Championship, second only in that continent to the
World Cup.

Technically the US Cup games aren't friendlies, as there is a trophy at
stake. In practice, they _are_ friendlies.

A slight difference, I'd say..

Huw

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