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> But no matter how wide a grin Beckham wears as he takes up his new 250
> million dollar contract with the Galaxy, US soccer fans are unlikely
> to catch a glimpse of any mercury fillings in Becks's pearly white
> teeth - because it appears that he may have had all of his metal
> amalgam fillings replaced several ago.

> The 32 year old Beckham arrives in the US via Spain from London where
> he was born and raised, and then from Manchester where he first became
> a star playing for England's top club Manchester United from 1992 to
> 2003.

> It was during his time in Manchester when Beckham appears to have
> become just one of the celebrity patients of Dr Philip Wander,
> self-styled "dentist to the stars" and a strict practitioner of
> mercury-free dentistry at his surgery in central Manchester.

> You can see testimonials from other top soccer professionals on Dr
> Wander's website at:

> http://SportToday.org/

> - and you can also read his opinions on why he thinks that
> mercury-based amalgams should not be used for filling teeth.

> For example, here's what he says about the effects on the human body
> of the electrical behavior of amalgam fillings:

> "Nevertheless, as potentially damaging as mercury in the mouth is the
> electricity itself. When testing teeth for electrical effects, I have
> seen momentary sparks of up to one volt - enough to light a small
> torch or flashlight. It's worth remembering that the currents
> generated by amalgams are formed very close to the brain, which
> ordinarily operated at far lower potentials (only a few millivolts).
> The brain lies only a few millietres from the jaw bone, where the
> roots of the teeth are inserted, just on the other side of the thin
> cranial bone and the meninges (the three membranes enveloping the
> brain and spinal cord). This kind of current can cause mental
> dysfunction, which I often find in clinical practice."

> That's a pretty sensational statement to make.

> However, in spite of the controvertial nature of these claims, it
> appears that there isn't anything that the British Dental Association
> or any other organisation can do to discredit Dr Wander's opinions
> scientifically.

> " ... can cause mental dysfunction" !

> Still, not that David Beckham should worry.

> I think he'll be a great success in America.

> So if anyone out there wants to "bend it like Beckham", then perhaps
> they should have their amalgam fillings replaced too!

> Keith P Walsh

>> But no matter how wide a grin Beckham wears as he takes up his new 250
>> million dollar contract with the Galaxy, US soccer fans are unlikely
>> to catch a glimpse of any mercury fillings in Becks's pearly white
>> teeth - because it appears that he may have had all of his metal
>> amalgam fillings replaced several ago.

>> The 32 year old Beckham arrives in the US via Spain from London where
>> he was born and raised, and then from Manchester where he first became
>> a star playing for England's top club Manchester United from 1992 to
>> 2003.

>> It was during his time in Manchester when Beckham appears to have
>> become just one of the celebrity patients of Dr Philip Wander,
>> self-styled "dentist to the stars" and a strict practitioner of
>> mercury-free dentistry at his surgery in central Manchester.

>> You can see testimonials from other top soccer professionals on Dr
>> Wander's website at:

>> http://SportToday.org/

>> - and you can also read his opinions on why he thinks that
>> mercury-based amalgams should not be used for filling teeth.

>> For example, here's what he says about the effects on the human body
>> of the electrical behavior of amalgam fillings:

>> "Nevertheless, as potentially damaging as mercury in the mouth is the
>> electricity itself. When testing teeth for electrical effects, I have
>> seen momentary sparks of up to one volt - enough to light a small
>> torch or flashlight. It's worth remembering that the currents
>> generated by amalgams are formed very close to the brain, which
>> ordinarily operated at far lower potentials (only a few millivolts).
>> The brain lies only a few millietres from the jaw bone, where the
>> roots of the teeth are inserted, just on the other side of the thin
>> cranial bone and the meninges (the three membranes enveloping the
>> brain and spinal cord). This kind of current can cause mental
>> dysfunction, which I often find in clinical practice."

>> That's a pretty sensational statement to make.

>> However, in spite of the controvertial nature of these claims, it
>> appears that there isn't anything that the British Dental Association
>> or any other organisation can do to discredit Dr Wander's opinions
>> scientifically.

>> " ... can cause mental dysfunction" !

>> Still, not that David Beckham should worry.

>> I think he'll be a great success in America.

>> So if anyone out there wants to "bend it like Beckham", then perhaps
>> they should have their amalgam fillings replaced too!

>> Keith P Walsh

> Dentists are big crooks and almost as bad as vets.  They could extract a
> tooth but will***about with fillings etc because an extracted tooth
> means no much money.  They are most adept at this practice when dealing
> with their NHS patients.

>>> But no matter how wide a grin Beckham wears as he takes up his new 250
>>> million dollar contract with the Galaxy, US soccer fans are unlikely
>>> to catch a glimpse of any mercury fillings in Becks's pearly white
>>> teeth - because it appears that he may have had all of his metal
>>> amalgam fillings replaced several ago.

>>> The 32 year old Beckham arrives in the US via Spain from London where
>>> he was born and raised, and then from Manchester where he first became
>>> a star playing for England's top club Manchester United from 1992 to
>>> 2003.

>>> It was during his time in Manchester when Beckham appears to have
>>> become just one of the celebrity patients of Dr Philip Wander,
>>> self-styled "dentist to the stars" and a strict practitioner of
>>> mercury-free dentistry at his surgery in central Manchester.

>>> You can see testimonials from other top soccer professionals on Dr
>>> Wander's website at:

>>> http://SportToday.org/

>>> - and you can also read his opinions on why he thinks that
>>> mercury-based amalgams should not be used for filling teeth.

>>> For example, here's what he says about the effects on the human body
>>> of the electrical behavior of amalgam fillings:

>>> "Nevertheless, as potentially damaging as mercury in the mouth is the
>>> electricity itself. When testing teeth for electrical effects, I have
>>> seen momentary sparks of up to one volt - enough to light a small
>>> torch or flashlight. It's worth remembering that the currents
>>> generated by amalgams are formed very close to the brain, which
>>> ordinarily operated at far lower potentials (only a few millivolts).
>>> The brain lies only a few millietres from the jaw bone, where the
>>> roots of the teeth are inserted, just on the other side of the thin
>>> cranial bone and the meninges (the three membranes enveloping the
>>> brain and spinal cord). This kind of current can cause mental
>>> dysfunction, which I often find in clinical practice."

>>> That's a pretty sensational statement to make.

>>> However, in spite of the controvertial nature of these claims, it
>>> appears that there isn't anything that the British Dental Association
>>> or any other organisation can do to discredit Dr Wander's opinions
>>> scientifically.

>>> " ... can cause mental dysfunction" !

>>> Still, not that David Beckham should worry.

>>> I think he'll be a great success in America.

>>> So if anyone out there wants to "bend it like Beckham", then perhaps
>>> they should have their amalgam fillings replaced too!

>>> Keith P Walsh

>> Dentists are big crooks and almost as bad as vets.  They could extract a
>> tooth but will***about with fillings etc because an extracted tooth
>> means no much money.  They are most adept at this practice when dealing
>> with their NHS patients.

> You've got that arse upwards, mate. With NHS patients, they regularly extract
> the tooth.....to save time and effort that fiddly recovery work would take,
> to spend that same time and effort on their private patients..... who in turn
> spend much more money than the state would have paid them for that NHS
> recovery work.

> >> Keith P Walsh pretended :
> >>> Next week David Beckham, perhaps the most famous soccer star in the
> >>> world, is set to move from top Spanish club Real Madrid to join the
> >>> Los Angeles Galaxy in US Major League Soccer.

> >>> But no matter how wide a grin Beckham wears as he takes up his new 250
> >>> million dollar contract with the Galaxy, US soccer fans are unlikely
> >>> to catch a glimpse of any mercury fillings in Becks's pearly white
> >>> teeth - because it appears that he may have had all of his metal
> >>> amalgam fillings replaced several ago.

> >>> The 32 year old Beckham arrives in the US via Spain from London where
> >>> he was born and raised, and then from Manchester where he first became
> >>> a star playing for England's top club Manchester United from 1992 to
> >>> 2003.

> >>> It was during his time in Manchester when Beckham appears to have
> >>> become just one of the celebrity patients of Dr Philip Wander,
> >>> self-styled "dentist to the stars" and a strict practitioner of
> >>> mercury-free dentistry at his surgery in central Manchester.

> >>> You can see testimonials from other top soccer professionals on Dr
> >>> Wander's website at:

> >>>http://SportToday.org/

> >>> - and you can also read his opinions on why he thinks that
> >>> mercury-based amalgams should not be used for filling teeth.

> >>> For example, here's what he says about the effects on the human body
> >>> of the electrical behavior of amalgam fillings:

> >>> "Nevertheless, as potentially damaging as mercury in the mouth is the
> >>> electricity itself. When testing teeth for electrical effects, I have
> >>> seen momentary sparks of up to one volt - enough to light a small
> >>> torch or flashlight. It's worth remembering that the currents
> >>> generated by amalgams are formed very close to the brain, which
> >>> ordinarily operated at far lower potentials (only a few millivolts).
> >>> The brain lies only a few millietres from the jaw bone, where the
> >>> roots of the teeth are inserted, just on the other side of the thin
> >>> cranial bone and the meninges (the three membranes enveloping the
> >>> brain and spinal cord). This kind of current can cause mental
> >>> dysfunction, which I often find in clinical practice."

> >>> That's a pretty sensational statement to make.

> >>> However, in spite of the controvertial nature of these claims, it
> >>> appears that there isn't anything that the British Dental Association
> >>> or any other organisation can do to discredit Dr Wander's opinions
> >>> scientifically.

> >>> " ... can cause mental dysfunction" !

> >>> Still, not that David Beckham should worry.

> >>> I think he'll be a great success in America.

> >>> So if anyone out there wants to "bend it like Beckham", then perhaps
> >>> they should have their amalgam fillings replaced too!

> >>> Keith P Walsh

> >> Dentists are big crooks and almost as bad as vets.  They could extract a
> >> tooth but will***about with fillings etc because an extracted tooth
> >> means no much money.  They are most adept at this practice when dealing
> >> with their NHS patients.

> > You've got that arse upwards, mate. With NHS patients, they regularly extract
> > the tooth.....to save time and effort that fiddly recovery work would take,
> > to spend that same time and effort on their private patients..... who in turn
> > spend much more money than the state would have paid them for that NHS
> > recovery work.

> But take into account that they can stick it through to the NHS without
> any questions.  A private patient could state that the extraction could
> be his only option.

> I am not doubting your take on the subject though.

> --
> Count Baldoni

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>>>> Keith P Walsh pretended :
>>>>> Next week David Beckham, perhaps the most famous soccer star in the
>>>>> world, is set to move from top Spanish club Real Madrid to join the
>>>>> Los Angeles Galaxy in US Major League Soccer.
>>>>> But no matter how wide a grin Beckham wears as he takes up his new 250
>>>>> million dollar contract with the Galaxy, US soccer fans are unlikely
>>>>> to catch a glimpse of any mercury fillings in Becks's pearly white
>>>>> teeth - because it appears that he may have had all of his metal
>>>>> amalgam fillings replaced several ago.
>>>>> The 32 year old Beckham arrives in the US via Spain from London where
>>>>> he was born and raised, and then from Manchester where he first became
>>>>> a star playing for England's top club Manchester United from 1992 to
>>>>> 2003.

>>>>> It was during his time in Manchester when Beckham appears to have
>>>>> become just one of the celebrity patients of Dr Philip Wander,
>>>>> self-styled "dentist to the stars" and a strict practitioner of
>>>>> mercury-free dentistry at his surgery in central Manchester.
>>>>> You can see testimonials from other top soccer professionals on Dr
>>>>> Wander's website at:

>>>>> http://SportToday.org/
>>>>> - and you can also read his opinions on why he thinks that
>>>>> mercury-based amalgams should not be used for filling teeth.
>>>>> For example, here's what he says about the effects on the human body
>>>>> of the electrical behavior of amalgam fillings:
>>>>> "Nevertheless, as potentially damaging as mercury in the mouth is the
>>>>> electricity itself. When testing teeth for electrical effects, I have
>>>>> seen momentary sparks of up to one volt - enough to light a small
>>>>> torch or flashlight. It's worth remembering that the currents
>>>>> generated by amalgams are formed very close to the brain, which
>>>>> ordinarily operated at far lower potentials (only a few millivolts).
>>>>> The brain lies only a few millietres from the jaw bone, where the
>>>>> roots of the teeth are inserted, just on the other side of the thin
>>>>> cranial bone and the meninges (the three membranes enveloping the
>>>>> brain and spinal cord). This kind of current can cause mental
>>>>> dysfunction, which I often find in clinical practice."
>>>>> That's a pretty sensational statement to make.
>>>>> However, in spite of the controvertial nature of these claims, it
>>>>> appears that there isn't anything that the British Dental Association
>>>>> or any other organisation can do to discredit Dr Wander's opinions
>>>>> scientifically.

>>>>> " ... can cause mental dysfunction" !
>>>>> Still, not that David Beckham should worry.
>>>>> I think he'll be a great success in America.
>>>>> So if anyone out there wants to "bend it like Beckham", then perhaps
>>>>> they should have their amalgam fillings replaced too!
>>>>> Keith P Walsh

>>>> Dentists are big crooks and almost as bad as vets.  They could extract a
>>>> tooth but will***about with fillings etc because an extracted tooth
>>>> means no much money.  They are most adept at this practice when dealing
>>>> with their NHS patients.

>>> You've got that arse upwards, mate. With NHS patients, they regularly
>>> extract the tooth.....to save time and effort that fiddly recovery work
>>> would take, to spend that same time and effort on their private
>>> patients..... who in turn spend much more money than the state would have
>>> paid them for that NHS recovery work.

>> But take into account that they can stick it through to the NHS without
>> any questions.  A private patient could state that the extraction could
>> be his only option.

>> I am not doubting your take on the subject though.

>> --
>> Count Baldoni

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> You guys might be interested in the following questions which I posted
> to sci.med.dentistry a couple of years back:

> *** COPIED TEXT

> Most people automatically assume that the current crisis in National
> Health Service (NHS) dentistry in the UK is simply due to a lack of
> adequate government funding.

> However, I think that the problem is more complex than this, and that
> the question of funding may in fact be of only secondary importance.

> I believe that Dr Lester Ellman, chair of the British Dental
> Associations's general dental practice committee, puts his finger on
> the real problem when he says:

> "It's not to do with the money in terms of their [the dentists'] take-
> home pay, but in order to be able to spend more time with their
> patients and to do things the NHS cannot do but the public wants."

> - taken from, "Crisis to get worse, warns union", Manchester News,
> Monday, 9th August 2004, see:

> http://SportToday.org/

> Dr Ellman highlights a particular problem which is that certain kinds
> of dental treatments now being demanded by greater numbers of patients
> are not available under the auspices of the National Health Service.

> For example, it appears that more and more dental patients are
> choosing not to have metal amalgam fillings placed in their teeth,
> whilst the National Health Service continues to insist that the ONLY
> filling material that dentists are allowed to use when placing
> fillings in posterior teeth is metal amalgam.

> Therefore the real truth might be that, since more and more people are
> both able and willing to pay for private treatment in order that their
> preference for non-metallic fillings is met, then more and more
> dentists are able to fulfill their earnings requirements without
> having to resort to the restrictive practices prescribed by the
> authority of the National Health Service.

> And an indication of the degree of influence which this particular
> example is having on the present crisis in NHS dentistry might be
> gained if a sufficiently curious investigative journalist were to pick
> up a telephone and call a few "private" dentists to ask what are the
> respective percentages of metallic and non-metallic fillings that they
> place in their patients' posterior teeth. (Remember that the
> corresponding figures for "National Health dentists" are 100% and
> 0%.)

> Does anyone know if anyone has ever done this?

> And, if so, what were the results?

> Should NHS dental patients in the UK have the right to choose what
> material is used for filling cavities in their teeth?

> Keith P Walsh

>  *** END

> So Slitheen and Count Baldoni, if you want treatment on the NHS you
> might find that because of the uncertainties regarding adverse effects
> from amalgam fillings, some dentists offering NHS treatment may still
> be demotivated to place them in your teeth and opt for extraction
> wherever it my be justified, and they might just be doing you a favour
> when they do.

> And by the way, do you think that David Beckham will be a success in
> the US?

> Keith P Walsh

> As regards teeth I still have my suspicions especially with root canal.

>> As regards teeth I still have my suspicions especially with root canal.

>Would you disagree with Beckham's Manchester dentist that the
>electrical behavior of metal fillings "can cause mental dysfunction",
>which he says he often finds in clinical practice?

> If Beckham's dentist is suffering from mental dysfunction, then heaven
> help his patients.

>> If Beckham's dentist is suffering from mental dysfunction, then heaven
>> help his patients.

>You're feeling sorry for David Beckham?

>What would you know about the electrical behaviour of dental amalgams
>anyway?

> That's nice.  I always look to professional athletes for cutting-
> edge information on dentistry.  I usually look to plumbers for
> cutting-edge information particle physics, too.

>I wonder how large the electrical potentials in your fillings are.
>(Remember that the resting potential of the human neurological synapse
>is only 70 millivolts.)

>Do you ever suffer from "stress", or "depression"?

>David Beckham doesn't appear to.

>Keith P Walsh

>> The gentleman troll, of mercury amalgam fame!

>> Completely wrong, but entertaining none the less.

>> Welcome back Keith you old nutbar.

>So ridiculing me is still the only way you are able to come to terms
>with your own (and everyone else's) ignorance regarding the
>electromagnetic and thermoelectric behavior of dental amalgams is it?

>> That's nice.  I always look to professional athletes for cutting-
>> edge information on dentistry.  I usually look to plumbers for
>> cutting-edge information particle physics, too.

>Well if you'd only listen to scientists you might recognise that your
>sarcasm isn't appropriate.

>It has been demonstrated experimentally that metal amalgam dental
>fillings generate electrical potentials with magnitudes of up to 350
>millivolts - you can read all about it at:

>http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/dutch.htm

>http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/potentials.htm

>I wonder how large the electrical potentials in your fillings are.
>(Remember that the resting potential of the human neurological synapse
>is only 70 millivolts.)

> Once more the previously referred 'gentleman trol' surfaces.  Only
> this time there is quite an edge in his posts.  Perhaps his amalgams
> are causing his mental disorder to amplify?

> I'm sure I can.  But that's the extreme, it's not as though every
> filling generates such potential.