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Post by Bill Brid » Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Since this wasn't on tv.....

Dallas    3
DC United 0
0-0 at half time

How can Dallas lose to KC 1-0 and then 3 days later just
run the best team in the league (to date) out of the Cotton
Bowl in the second half?

Get well soon Eddie Pope and Carlos Llamosa. Moreno went down
in the 22nd minute with an injury, replaced by AJ Wood and
Etch picked up a red card. No big deal, he was headed to Bolivia
anyway for the next six weeks after this match anyway.

Big challenge ahead for DC United-No Etch and Moreno for six weeks
and at least four players will be out due to USA duties this
Summer.

Mark Dodd is back I see according to the lineups on the DC website.

Thoughts from anyone who was there (Dustin, Stan?).

Bill

 
 
 

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Post by Dustin Christma » Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>Since this wasn't on tv.....

>Dallas    3
>DC United 0
>0-0 at half time

>How can Dallas lose to KC 1-0 and then 3 days later just
>run the best team in the league (to date) out of the Cotton
>Bowl in the second half?

I think that the loss on Saturday night against one of the worst teams in
the league got the boys' heads ready for last night's game.

Quote:
>Get well soon Eddie Pope and Carlos Llamosa. Moreno went down
>in the 22nd minute with an injury, replaced by AJ Wood and
>Etch picked up a red card. No big deal, he was headed to Bolivia
>anyway for the next six weeks after this match anyway.

Well, Etcheverry may have bigger problems than that.  Burn GM Billy Hicks
said in this morning Dallas Morning News that he thought that Etcheverry's
hard tackle from behind on Leonel Alvarez was "blatant" and that he'll be
sending a tape of it to the league office for possible further punishment.
Moreover, Etcheverry refused to completely leave the field, stopping at the
entrance to the player tunnel behind the south goal.  This, despite the best
efforts of Burn staffers to urge him to head to the dressing room.

This provoked the first stadium-wide chant I've ever heard at the Cotton Bowl
in four seasons as a Burn fan: "Culero."  Etcheverry stood and watched the
rest of the match there.  People around me quipped that he was waiting for
Leonel to come off the field at the end of the match for a little added
"entertainment," but it appeared that standing there cooled him off and he
went into the dressing room with the rest of the DC United squad at the end
of the match.

Quote:
>Big challenge ahead for DC United-No Etch and Moreno for six weeks
>and at least four players will be out due to USA duties this
>Summer.

>Mark Dodd is back I see according to the lineups on the DC website.

Well, only temporarily.  Before Saturday night's game, the word was that Dodd
was going to get a start to give Jordan a rest since the team was going to be
playing three games in eight days.  Jordan should be in goal on Saturday night
in Denver.

Quote:
>Thoughts from anyone who was there (Dustin, Stan?).

Well, if you ever get to see a tape of the match, don't bother with the first
half.  It was a rough, tedious affair played mostly in the midfield.  The
second half was a lot more action packed, with both teams playing their
respective games: DC United would play a possession game, stringing numerous
passes together and working the ball forward.  Meanwhile, Dallas would hold
their defensive shape, often winning the balls in midfield, and launch
quick counterattacks.

In other words, it was another example about why the "time of possession"
stat that MLS keeps is absolutely meaningless.  I believe that I read on the
United list that the time of possession was 64% for United and only 36% for
the Burn.  Well, it's like that every week for Dallas.  The boys let their
opponents fart around with the ball in the midfield all they like, but they
do a very good job of shutting the door in the last third of the field.
They then launch a quick counterattack.  And that's how they killed United
last night.  All three goals were off counters.

Oh, one more thing.  Noel Kenny completely lost control of the match.  The
perfect illustration of his refereeing came in the second half.  As Jason
Kreis was bringing the ball up the right side, Geoff Aunger coldcocked him
in the face with his forearm.  A clear red card.  However, it did not even
merit a booking in Kenny's mind.  However, the yellow card came out not two
minutes later for Ted Eck -- for dissent.  The match was rough-and-tumble
on both sides and I'm a bit surprised that Kenny found the intestinal forti-
tude to send anyone off, let alone Marco Etcheverry.

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                  =    Champions     = Next: 6/19, at Colorado
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Post by Thomas Scott Moyle » Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> perfect illustration of his refereeing came in the second half.  As Jason
> Kreis was bringing the ball up the right side, Geoff Aunger coldcocked him
> in the face with his forearm.  A clear red card.  However, it did not even
> merit a booking in Kenny's mind.  However, the yellow card came out not two

Why does this not suprise me?

Every match I've seen with Kenny, he lets the players get away with
*** one minute, then suddenly cards ticky-tack fouls. Bah.

And not like I haven't seen that happen with Aunger before. Every DC game
I've watched this season, Aunger has always commited enough blatant and
stupid fouls to warrant being sent off, IMNSHO. Yet I've only seen him
sent off once.

For a good example of the reffing in MLS, take the Crew-United match, the
second one, played last Sunday, for an example. Moore got sent off for
what looked like a complete dive, while Aunger consistently commited what
I would term "flagrant" fouls and got away with it.

Not that Aunger is the only guy who gets away with this crap. I feel that
Doyle does it just as often, as does McKeon. It's almost like the league
is allowing the "hard men" to get away with it by policy.

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Post by Chris Francisc » Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:


> >Since this wasn't on tv.....

> >Dallas    3
> >DC United 0
> >0-0 at half time

> >How can Dallas lose to KC 1-0 and then 3 days later just
> >run the best team in the league (to date) out of the Cotton
> >Bowl in the second half?

> I think that the loss on Saturday night against one of the worst teams in
> the league got the boys' heads ready for last night's game.

I'd like to respond indignantly the that characterization, but the only
possibly inaccuracy is probably the generous "one of the." Oh, well.

Chris

 
 
 

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Post by selen » Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> Not that Aunger is the only guy who gets away
> with this crap. I feel that Doyle does it just
> as often, as does McKeon. It's almost like the
> league is allowing the "hard men" to get away
> with it by policy.

I like John Doyle in general, but the man is a hack monster!

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Post by Bill Brid » Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Dustin: Many thanks for the recap. Yesterday there was talk
on the DCU list that a couple bars were showing this game,
then they weren't, then one said to check after 5:00 PM,
then no one had it.

I tuned in to the radio station that carries DCU and at
9:40 they signed off for the day, telling you to tune
into another station on FM, which doesn't even come in.
So I tune to the stations home page for the real audio feed
but was denied (much like the way DCU was last night) due to
the server reaching full capacity.

I ventured over to DCU's website and they had a minute
by minute recap of the game, though posted late, it was
better than nothing. It's the first time in four years
that website was of any use.

If this happens again with these two teams next season, rather
than go thru all that bull shit again, I think it is easier to
jump on a plane to Dallas, rent a car and head to the Cotton
Bowl to watch the game. Hell, if I had done that yesterday
(emptying my bank account out in the process), I would have
stayed and tried to get a ticket for tonight's game 5 of the
Stanley Cup finals.

It must be nice being in Dallas, first place Rangers, Burn and
the Stars fighting for the Cup. Enjoy and kick the Sabres ass!

Bill

 
 
 

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Post by Bill Brid » Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Re: Aunger-We gave him the nickname "Hatchetman" last
season and it fits.
 
 
 

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Post by Stan collin » Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Since this wasn't on tv.....
> Dallas    3
> DC United 0
> 0-0 at half time
> How can Dallas lose to KC 1-0 and then 3 days later just
> run the best team in the league (to date) out of the Cotton
> Bowl in the second half?

That's just our charm.

KC-Dallas is the kind of rivalry where the best team doesn't necessarily
win.

Quote:
> Thoughts from anyone who was there (Dustin, Stan?).

Wish I could've been there, but I have a job here in Austin.
--
Stan collins

Of course, other teams are interested in Moore.  I, too, am
interested in Moore. But if other teams have an interest in Moore,
they must also have an interest in Zenga. Because Moore goes
nowhere without Zenga.

          --Zenga

I tried saying stupid things in Kansas City, but nobody listened.

          --Ron Newman

 
 
 

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Post by Schiffe » Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Quote:

> I ventured over to DCU's website and they had a minute
> by minute recap of the game, though posted late, it was
> better than nothing. It's the first time in four years
> that website was of any use.

You mean you don't like the fact that the useless red frame takes up
half the screen and the the expired links on the black frame are grey,
making them impossible to read?

Has anyone received an e-mail from United's listserve?  I signed up at
the beginning of the season and got the major domo response confirming
my subscription, but haven't heard a peep.

--
P. Schiff
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Post by William H G » Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Well, Etcheverry may have bigger problems than that.  Burn GM Billy Hicks
said in this morning Dallas Morning News that he thought that Etcheverry's
hard tackle from behind on Leonel Alvarez was "blatant" and that he'll be
sending a tape of it to the league office for possible further punishment.
Moreover, Etcheverry refused to completely leave the field, stopping at the
entrance to the player tunnel behind the south goal.  This, despite the best
efforts of Burn staffers to urge him to head to the dressing room.

Nah, Etch has no problems.  MLS won't touch him, or if they decide
to fine and suspend him it will be for matches that he would have
missed anyway due to the Copa.  After all, since when did MLS
start showing nads wrt their marquee guys?

As for sending in a tape, if this is anything like college
basketball, sending in a tape is an exercise in futility.

-Will

 
 
 

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Post by Dustin Christma » Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Quote:


>Well, Etcheverry may have bigger problems than that.  Burn GM Billy Hicks
>said in this morning Dallas Morning News that he thought that Etcheverry's
>hard tackle from behind on Leonel Alvarez was "blatant" and that he'll be
>sending a tape of it to the league office for possible further punishment.
>Moreover, Etcheverry refused to completely leave the field, stopping at the
>entrance to the player tunnel behind the south goal.  This, despite the best
>efforts of Burn staffers to urge him to head to the dressing room.

>Nah, Etch has no problems.  MLS won't touch him, or if they decide
>to fine and suspend him it will be for matches that he would have
>missed anyway due to the Copa.  After all, since when did MLS
>start showing nads wrt their marquee guys?

True.  I'm still shocked that Noel Kenny had the nads to send him off.

Quote:
>As for sending in a tape, if this is anything like college
>basketball, sending in a tape is an exercise in futility.

Probably also true.  But it makes for good press.
--
Thanx,            =   Dallas Burn    = Record: 8-6, 22 points
Dustin Christmann = 1997 US Open Cup = Last: 6/16, 3-0 win vs. DC United
                  =    Champions     = Next: 6/19, at Colorado
==========================================================================