Here's hopin' for a good ol' group o' death.

Here's hopin' for a good ol' group o' death.

Post by James Allnut » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:22:16


Now that those pesky balls are ready for Ms Klum's hands to grasp, it's
time to dream a little dream of who you want to play.

Here's who I want in my Group.
1) England (tho' Brazil would also be nice).
2) Netherlands
3) USA
4) Australia

And why them
A) Guaranteed wall-to-wall press coverage here, pissing off those other
football codes in the middle of their season.
B) Good games to watch, memories for a lifetime.
C) Frankly, if we get hammered, no real harm done - after all we don't
stand a chance in hell.
D) If we do get out of this group - don't think I will EVER, EVER, EVER,
EVER let you people forget about it.  EVER.  Future posts from you -
"Liverpool look like throwing it all away this year".  My reply "But
Australia made it out of that group of death. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA".
  Face it, after six months of that, you'll be begging for Lech to come
back, just begging for it.

James

--
The noise the gates, distortion phase. Count compression, short delay.
Amen, cries a sound descending.

 
 
 

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Post by robvanz.. » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:24:34

Quote:

> Now that those pesky balls are ready for Ms Klum's hands to grasp, it's
> time to dream a little dream of who you want to play.

> Here's who I want in my Group.
> 1) England (tho' Brazil would also be nice).
> 2) Netherlands
> 3) USA
> 4) Australia

> And why them
> A) Guaranteed wall-to-wall press coverage here, pissing off those other
> football codes in the middle of their season.
> B) Good games to watch, memories for a lifetime.
> C) Frankly, if we get hammered, no real harm done - after all we don't
> stand a chance in hell.
> D) If we do get out of this group - don't think I will EVER, EVER, EVER,
> EVER let you people forget about it.  EVER.  Future posts from you -
> "Liverpool look like throwing it all away this year".  My reply "But
> Australia made it out of that group of death. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA".
>   Face it, after six months of that, you'll be begging for Lech to come
> back, just begging for it.

> James

I hope Aussies make it out of this group. I hate their Cricket team but
would like to see them kick England's and USA's ass in soccer
especially everybody seems to be picking on them as the weakest team.

 
 
 

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Post by MH » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:47:30

Quote:

> I hope Aussies make it out of this group. I hate their Cricket team but
> would like to see them kick England's and USA's ass in soccer
> especially everybody seems to be picking on them as the weakest team.

Is everybody really picking on them as the weakest team ?  If they can
hold their own against Uruguay, one would have to assume that at sea
level they are also competitive with Ecuador.  I would also assume that
they are better, or at least no worse, than Trinidad and Tobago, Togo,
Angola, and Saudi Arabia.

The only thing the Aussies have going against them is that in the
absence of Canada, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, N. Ireland,and Belgium,
whom I would normally be supporting, I am seriously considering adopting
them as "my" team.  And that amounts to the kiss of death.

 
 
 

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Post by Anto » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:31:57

Not everybody but certainly Bruce Arena nominated them along with T&T
as the two weakest teams - but then qualified this by implying that the
two weakest are actually not all that weak.

Nonetheless us Aussies would love Arena's comments to come back and
bite him on the arse.

 
 
 

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Post by Blair Kavanag » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:46:35

As Australians we have a lot to prove.

We can't just say that because most of our players are professionals in
Italy, Spain, England, Holland etc that we can automatically claim to
be a threat at next years WC.

We have only been to the WC once and we have never scored a goal!

We have no street cred as of yet, we'll earn it.

They can rank us at number 32, incidently that's where Bruce Arena's
USA finished in '98!, but I am confident we will pull off some
surprises.

Putting us down will only add to our confidence, this is the Australian
way.

Blair

 
 
 

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Post by James Allnut » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:48:02

Quote:

> Not everybody but certainly Bruce Arena nominated them along with T&T
> as the two weakest teams - but then qualified this by implying that the
> two weakest are actually not all that weak.

> Nonetheless us Aussies would love Arena's comments to come back and
> bite him on the arse.

Fantastic news.  Someone that no-one here has heard of makes comments
that get taken almost completely out of context and it's front page news.

Don't tell me football isn't taking over already.  We're getting media
beat-ups on the World Cup, and the draw hasn't even happened.

James

--
The noise the gates, distortion phase. Count compression, short delay.
Amen, cries a sound descending.

 
 
 

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Post by ken.over.. » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:51:13

Quote:
> Not everybody but certainly Bruce Arena nominated them along with T&T
> as the two weakest teams

Actually even he wasn't; he was *trying* to be complimentary.  The
*context* of what he said was that people may think of them as the
weakest teams, but they both have top quality players.  But some clever
sould found a way to turn that into a "They're Out to Get Us!" scene.
 
 
 

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Post by mcma.. » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:50:36

: They can rank us at number 32, incidently that's where Bruce Arena's
: USA finished in '98!,

Uh, that would be Steve Sampson's USA.

Larry

 
 
 

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Post by Diaboli » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:22:47


Quote:
> As Australians we have a lot to prove.

18% of Australians already think they can win the world cup;)

Poll:
How far can Australia go at the 2006 World Cup finals?
- Champions 18%
- Semi-finals 9%
- Quarter-finals 27%
- Rd 16 33%
- Group stage 13%

Do Australians have any humility???
They should be happy to win one game in the world cup!

They also think their wine is great, which is sold in the UK and USA;)

Quote:
> We can't just say that because most of our players are professionals in
> Italy, Spain, England, Holland etc that we can automatically claim to
> be a threat at next years WC.

> We have only been to the WC once and we have never scored a goal!

> We have no street cred as of yet, we'll earn it.

> They can rank us at number 32, incidently that's where Bruce Arena's
> USA finished in '98!, but I am confident we will pull off some
> surprises.

> Putting us down will only add to our confidence, this is the Australian
> way.

> Blair

 
 
 

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Post by Lucky Devi » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:21:28

Quote:

> Now that those pesky balls are ready for Ms Klum's hands to grasp, it's
> time to dream a little dream of who you want to play.

> Here's who I want in my Group.
> 1) England (tho' Brazil would also be nice).
> 2) Netherlands
> 3) USA
> 4) Australia

That sounds fun.

Quote:
> And why them
> A) Guaranteed wall-to-wall press coverage here, pissing off those other
> football codes in the middle of their season.

That would probably mean slighltly above-average coverage here as well.

Well, perhaps not 'much' more coverage, but it would be a field day for
some media circles.

Quote:
> B) Good games to watch, memories for a lifetime.

Most definitely, although you do realize we'd both be in a dogfight to
qualify for the second round.

Quote:
> C) Frankly, if we get hammered, no real harm done - after all we don't
> stand a chance in hell.
> D) If we do get out of this group - don't think I will EVER, EVER, EVER,
> EVER let you people forget about it.  EVER.  Future posts from you -
> "Liverpool look like throwing it all away this year".  My reply "But
> Australia made it out of that group of death. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA".

^_^

After reading these about what Bruce Arena apparently said here, I'm
interested even more. What were his 'exact' words?

--
Neighborhood Superstar, still the same;

Devin Tregre
"I brought a knife to a gun fight...and I still won!"

 
 
 

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Post by Anto » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:29:33

Well no, he nominated them as one of the two weakest teams.  And as I
wrote, he then implied that they weren't that weak - so yeah, a
backhanded compliment if you like.

Countries on the periphery such as Australia have a fine tradition of
playing on our underdog status - we find it's a good motivational
technique!

 
 
 

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Post by James Allnut » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:49:47

Quote:


>>Now that those pesky balls are ready for Ms Klum's hands to grasp, it's
>>time to dream a little dream of who you want to play.

>>Here's who I want in my Group.
>>1) England (tho' Brazil would also be nice).
>>2) Netherlands
>>3) USA
>>4) Australia

> That sounds fun.

>>And why them
>>A) Guaranteed wall-to-wall press coverage here, pissing off those other
>>football codes in the middle of their season.

> That would probably mean slighltly above-average coverage here as well.

> Well, perhaps not 'much' more coverage, but it would be a field day for
> some media circles.

>>B) Good games to watch, memories for a lifetime.

> Most definitely, although you do realize we'd both be in a dogfight to
> qualify for the second round.

The funny thing is - it seems so hard for Australia to get to the World
Cup, anything from here on doesn't seem so daunting.  I do those "mock
draw" programs and generally see our group and think - "Well, it would
be hard - but it's doable".

Quote:

>>C) Frankly, if we get hammered, no real harm done - after all we don't
>>stand a chance in hell.
>>D) If we do get out of this group - don't think I will EVER, EVER, EVER,
>>EVER let you people forget about it.  EVER.  Future posts from you -
>>"Liverpool look like throwing it all away this year".  My reply "But
>>Australia made it out of that group of death. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA".

> ^_^

> After reading these about what Bruce Arena apparently said here, I'm
> interested even more. What were his 'exact' words?

Maybe he tried to say one thing and it came out a bit wrong, and then he
tried to downplay it and it didn't sort of work either.

I don't think it was an attempt at an insult - he just picked the two
interconfed play-off winners (who could be argued are the 31st and 32nd
qualifiers).  If he had said (say) Togo and Australia, then he would
have been guilty of more than he was.  It's really only annoying because
that play-off was our *ONLY* way into the thing (unlike everybody else)
so, to us, it's a bit like we're being regarded (yet again) as a bit of
an afterthought.  And no-one likes that.

However, he did say
"The last time around [in the World Cup], the easy games were China and
Saudi Arabia. This time around you'd probably say Australia and Trinidad
& Tobago are the weak ones."

That's not really very nice as stated now is it.

James

Quote:
> --
> Neighborhood Superstar, still the same;

> Devin Tregre
> "I brought a knife to a gun fight...and I still won!"

--
The noise the gates, distortion phase. Count compression, short delay.
Amen, cries a sound descending.
 
 
 

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Post by Anto » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:02:31

Here's the full quote.

"All the groups are going to be hard, and there are no givens," he
says. "The last time around the easy games were China and Saudi Arabia.
This time around you'd probably say Australia and Trinidad & Tobago are
the weak ones. But Australia has basically all its players in Europe,
and Trinidad has a guy [Dwight Yorke] who was once arguably the top
striker in soccer."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/grant_wahl/12/02/us.dra...

 
 
 

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Post by Lucky Devi » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:02:47

Quote:

> After reading these about what Bruce Arena apparently said here, I'm
> interested even more. What were his 'exact' words?

Scratch that,

"The last time around [in the World Cup], the
easy games were China and Saudi Arabia. This time around you'd
probably say Australia and Trinidad & Tobago are the weak ones."

Is that it?

--
Neighborhood Superstar, still the same;
Devin Tregre

"I brought a knife to a gun fight, and I still won!"

 
 
 

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Post by ken.over.. » Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:07:38

Quote:
> we find it's a good motivational technique!

That would certainly explain scouring the web for things to construe as
insults.