A question of citizenship vis-a-vis Balbo

A question of citizenship vis-a-vis Balbo

Post by Loris Magna » Mon, 28 Feb 1994 22:18:18


I should know better than to get involved in an Ariel/someone else
(Felipe) debate...but I have a TRICKY question.

First the exchange:

Quote:
>>3. Persuade the English FA (they are in charge aren't they?) to
>>   import some Mexican referees to officiate the crucial home matches.

>Ariel

>The "Mexican" referee which presided over the final in 1990 was actually
>Uruguayan (at least Uruguayan born and raised).  He did ref in the Mexican
>professional league, but playing in Italy doesn't make Batistuta or Balbo
>Italian, right?  If that's not the ref which still makes you lose sleep
>at night and which caused you to mention Mexican referees, disregard this
>post.

>Felipe

I couldn't pass up the irony because, you see, Ariel Balbo has become
an italian citizen...so playing in Italy has, in effect, "made him
italian" :)
We all know that because he has played for Argentina in a World Cup
or elimination match (is that true??) he can never play for Italy...
(the days of the Oriundi have, unfortunately, passed...). So I know
that he will play only for Argentina...But, does he still have argentinean
citizenship?? Is he a dual citizen??

I believe he became an italian citizen so he could claim that he didn't
count as a foreigner vis-a-vis the "3-foreigners-on-the-field/bench"
rule, but I don't know what the italian federation or UEFA has ruled
on this...Any explanation, spiegazione, or explicacion would be greatly
appreciated...

Well, I'm off to watch the Serie A game...
Cheers,
Loris

 
 
 

A question of citizenship vis-a-vis Balbo

Post by Ariel Mazzarel » Tue, 01 Mar 1994 14:25:55

Quote:

>[Can we steal Balbo for the azzurri?]

No,  no y NO.

Ariel

PS: Y guarda porque nos deben la copa del '34,  eh?

 
 
 

A question of citizenship vis-a-vis Balbo

Post by Sergio Ade » Wed, 02 Mar 1994 01:22:31

Quote:
>I couldn't pass up the irony because, you see, Ariel Balbo has become
>an italian citizen...so playing in Italy has, in effect, "made him
>italian" :)
>We all know that because he has played for Argentina in a World Cup
>or elimination match (is that true??) he can never play for Italy...
>(the days of the Oriundi have, unfortunately, passed...). So I know
>that he will play only for Argentina...But, does he still have argentinean
>citizenship?? Is he a dual citizen??

>Loris

Hey Loris, aren't you happy with having Italy won its first world cup with
its best players being Argentinean soccer stars ?  (one of them having played
in the WC'30 finals for Argentina !)  I undesrtand this is no longer allowed.

Balbo played in fact for Argentina in the last qualifying games againts
Australia (scored a beatiful header after a perfect sending by Maradona
following one of His great moves.)  He would retain his Argentine citizenship
according to Argentine Law even after he becomes an Italian (or any other
country's) citizen, and may, therefore, keep playing for Argentina if called.

--

"I give my opinion not as being good, but as being my own." (Montaigne)

 
 
 

A question of citizenship vis-a-vis Balbo

Post by Natalio C. Pincev » Wed, 02 Mar 1994 03:44:42

Let's clarify this one: a player may not play for another national
team once he has playes even a second for his national team in a fully
recognized match (i.e. sanctioned by FIFA).
I don't know how many of you remember this, but Abel Balbo was a
starter in the 1990 opening match against Cameroon. He missed a couple
of clear chances, was pulled by Bilardo, and did not play again in the entire
Italia 90. He did not play in any match until the playoff with Australia,
and was then called for the match against Germany in the Orange Bowl.
Another example is Nestor Sensini, now naturalized Italian, playing
for Parma, who already has 3 foreigners (Asprilla, Brolin, and Grun?).
Sensini was also a part of the Argentine team in Italia 90.
So, it does not depend on the naturalization alone. Once a player
plays for a national team, he cannot play for another one. Period.
Natalio
PS: Balbo did play, but not with the Argentine National squad...