Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by Diaboli » Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:06:10


This would have to be one of the most sadest days in football history.

The ref had time to consult with the linesman, and also ask Henry.

How could Henry live with himself??? He's would have to be the biggest cheat
in football history.

It's really sickening.

 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by John » Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:13:29


Quote:
> This would have to be one of the most sadest days in football history.

> The ref had time to consult with the linesman, and also ask Henry.

> How could Henry live with himself??? He's would have to be the biggest cheat
> in football history.

> It's really sickening.

Sickening, yes, but Henry the biggest ever cheat for this? Hardly.
There are hundreds if not thousands of players who would have done the
same in that situation. I saw it on tv: in real time the whole
incident (ball to hand and pass on to Gallas) took maybe a second. Did
Henry deny what he'd done? Did he gloat over it? It was cheating, yes,
but the scale of it has been magnified due to the importance of the
result. There are plenty of examples of cheating in football that are
worse than that, the most obvious high-profile one being Maradonna's
"Hand of God" goal.

 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by Paul » Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:26:28

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:13:29 -0800 (PST), JohnB

Quote:

>There are plenty of examples of cheating in football that are
>worse than that, the most obvious high-profile one being Maradonna's
>"Hand of God" goal.

How as it worse than Henry's blatant cheating?

 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by John » Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:10:38


Quote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:13:29 -0800 (PST), JohnB


> >There are plenty of examples of cheating in football that are
> >worse than that, the most obvious high-profile one being Maradonna's
> >"Hand of God" goal.

> How was it worse than Henry's blatant cheating?

The intent (pre-meditated), the gloating. At least Henry sounded "un
petit" sorry.

And how would the French have treated him if he had owned up to the
referee at the time and the goal been chalked off, especially if
France had subsequently lost the penalty shoot out?

Ok, it was still cheating. But I still say it's the effect (deciding
who qualifies for the WCF) rather than the incident that is bringing
the wrath on Henry.

 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by Clémen » Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:44:58


Quote:

> >There are plenty of examples of cheating in football that are
> >worse than that, the most obvious high-profile one being Maradonna's
> >"Hand of God" goal.

> How as it worse than Henry's blatant cheating?

It's not. But at least he was straightforward about it (according to a
few RSS posts, I didn't see it yet), and did not blame "La Main de
Dieu" or something like that.

None of this make what Henry did right. Not the fact that others have
done the same before, nor the fact that he admitted it. And yeah, I do
appreciate him less today than I did yesterday.

It doesn't make him Satan, however, and doesn't make it the sole
culprit for all football problems.

Refereeing mistakes are a huge problem, which should be seriously
tackled by the powers that be. Mistakes will always exist, but as it
is there are too many IMO.

Until effective measures are taken, every once in a while some time
will be screwed. Sometimes it will happen in a high profile match like
yesterday's, which is an embarrassment to the sport.

Ultimately, such embarrassment is not Henry's fault. He is guilty of
deliberately handling the ball in that specific match, but he is not
guilty that the goal stood and nothing will be done about it.

Some might call for a disciplinary suspension to Henry. I would be all
for it, as long as such punishments are consistently applied to every
player that gets away with cheating on the field.

I don't believe it's going to happen because: 1) the powers that be
are not particularly inclined to admit there's a problem, and 2) the
powers that be don't seem to be particularly inclined to properly
enforce such things.

Abra?o,

Luiz Mello

 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by Clémen » Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:47:41


Quote:

> Until effective measures are taken, every once in a while some time
> will be screwed.

I meant "every once in a while some TEAM will be screwed".

My apologies.

Abra?o,

Luiz Mello

 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by Abubak » Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:49:38


Quote:


> > >There are plenty of examples of cheating in football that are
> > >worse than that, the most obvious high-profile one being Maradonna's
> > >"Hand of God" goal.

> > How as it worse than Henry's blatant cheating?

> It's not. But at least he was straightforward about it (according to a
> few RSS posts, I didn't see it yet), and did not blame "La Main de
> Dieu" or something like that.

> None of this make what Henry did right. Not the fact that others have
> done the same before, nor the fact that he admitted it. And yeah, I do
> appreciate him less today than I did yesterday.

> It doesn't make him Satan, however, and doesn't make it the sole
> culprit for all football problems.

> Refereeing mistakes are a huge problem, which should be seriously
> tackled by the powers that be. Mistakes will always exist, but as it
> is there are too many IMO.

> Until effective measures are taken, every once in a while some time
> will be screwed. Sometimes it will happen in a high profile match like
> yesterday's, which is an embarrassment to the sport.

> Ultimately, such embarrassment is not Henry's fault. He is guilty of
> deliberately handling the ball in that specific match, but he is not
> guilty that the goal stood and nothing will be done about it.

> Some might call for a disciplinary suspension to Henry. I would be all
> for it, as long as such punishments are consistently applied to every
> player that gets away with cheating on the field.

> I don't believe it's going to happen because: 1) the powers that be
> are not particularly inclined to admit there's a problem, and 2) the
> powers that be don't seem to be particularly inclined to properly
> enforce such things.

> Abra?o,

> Luiz Mello

Agreed. They need to have more referee's assistants at the game. Two
on each side of either goal at a minimum.
 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by Lord of Wa » Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:42:49


Quote:
> This would have to be one of the most sadest days in football history.

> The ref had time to consult with the linesman, and also ask Henry.

> How could Henry live with himself??? He's would have to be the biggest cheat
> in football history.

> It's really sickening.

It's very simple. FIFA wanted France in at any cost. Unfortunately,
Ireland was the team playing France yesterday. FIFA has cheated. As
for Henry..... well form Zidane to Henry..... we now see what kind of
people the french are. No wonder the Nazis easily ran france over in
the war. They are a weak dishonest people.
 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by Enzo » Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:29:08


Quote:
> This would have to be one of the most sadest days in football history.

> The ref had time to consult with the linesman, and also ask Henry.

> How could Henry live with himself??? He's would have to be the biggest cheat
> in football history.

> It's really sickening.

Sickening is a strong word. I will reserve it for more
serious things. Like Qaddafi being hosted by Berlusconi.

Doing whatever you can to win in sports is the modern
way of life. Not just in sports, but in everything.

 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by metaperl.co » Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:02:18


Quote:
> How could Henry live with himself??? He's would have to be the biggest cheat
> in football history.

Add to that his marital cheating - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article351224.ece
 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by Bob » Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:29:50


Quote:
> This would have to be one of the most sadest days in football history.

> The ref had time to consult with the linesman, and also ask Henry.

> How could Henry live with himself??? He's would have to be the biggest
cheat
> in football history.

> It's really sickening.

just as sickening as Materazzi in WC06, yet you won't admit to it.

how can you live with yourself, troll?

 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by Abubak » Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:23:22


Quote:
> Quoting Abubakr in rec.sport.soccer:

> >Agreed. They need to have more referee's assistants at the game. Two
> >on each side of either goal at a minimum.

> They should add one more head ref.

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> AssReX: Same responsibilities as now.

> HeadReY: In the above scenario HeadRe1 has special responsibility to look
> for cheap shots in the box, and for if the ball is over the goal line.
> HeadRe2 basically has the same responsibilities as now.

> Of course, when the ball is on the other side they switch roles
> symmetrically.

> --
> ? ? ? ?MANCHESTER UNITED FC
> ? ? ? ? ? ? CHAMPIONS
> ? ? ? ? ENGLAND & THE WORLD

There needs to be another one on the other side too. To make good
decisions refs need to be in the right place in timely fashion, no
good having extra officials if they are chasing the play.
 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by SHUSSBA » Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:40:29


Quote:

> > This would have to be one of the most sadest days in football history.

> > The ref had time to consult with the linesman, and also ask Henry.

> > How could Henry live with himself??? He's would have to be the biggest cheat
> > in football history.

> > It's really sickening.

> Sickening, yes, but Henry the biggest ever cheat for this? Hardly.
> There are hundreds if not thousands of players who would have done the
> same in that situation. I saw it on tv: in real time the whole
> incident (ball to hand and pass on to Gallas) took maybe a second. Did
> Henry deny what he'd done? Did he gloat over it? It was cheating, yes,
> but the scale of it has been magnified due to the importance of the
> result. There are plenty of examples of cheating in football that are
> worse than that, the most obvious high-profile one being Maradonna's
> "Hand of God" goal.

+1- Thanks
 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by SHUSSBA » Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:43:17


Quote:

> > This would have to be one of the most sadest days in football history.

> > The ref had time to consult with the linesman, and also ask Henry.

> > How could Henry live with himself??? He's would have to be the biggest cheat
> > in football history.

> > It's really sickening.

 No wonder the Nazis easily ran france over in

Quote:
> the war.

They did not have have that problem with Italy for sure
 
 
 

Sad day for football - Henry the biggest ever cheat

Post by ken.over.. » Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:52:14


Quote:

> There needs to be another one on the other side too. To make good
> decisions refs need to be in the right place in timely fashion, no
> good having extra officials if they are chasing the play.

They just need a frigging video review already.