my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Chris-Th.. » Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:00:00


(1) David Seaman -- a goal keeper who is excellent under pressure.
    Take for instance Euro 96, where he made excellent saves to beat
    Scotland and Spain.  Exceptional skills and attributes. It will be
    difficult for the Italians to penetrate his goal.

(2) England has a good attacking ability due to their backs, midfield,
    and strikers.

    The Neville brothers -- these two full backs are capable of running
    forward and pulling off excellent passes and crosses, and
    occasionally, putting the ball behind the oppositions net. They
    are good at attack-defense-attack manouvers.

    Paul Gascoigne -- one need only to look at Euro 96 and the game
    against Moldova.  Although a mid fielder, he should also be considered
    a good striker.  He can  break Italy's renowned 'world's greatest
    defence'.

    Ian Wright -- although not well known for his international qualities,
    Wright proved to be a good striker in the game against Moldova,
    setting up some excellent passes and scoring a few goals. He should do
    the same against Italy, since Shearer isn't around.

    David Beckham -- a good midfielder both for Man U and England. Good
    at passing and running forward (ie his pass that led to Shearer's goal
    against Poland).

   (3) England looks stronger than they have done in the past few years.
       They have managed to reach the top of their qualifying group and
       recently beat sides like Italy (2-0) and France (1-0) in the Tornoi
       du France.  Their attacking looked very impressive in the game
       against Moldova.  The score could and should have been much higher.

      I respect Italy, and would say they are a world class side. However,
      recently, their defence looks shattery (Euro 96) and at times their
      offence does not produce results (ie, Georgia 0-0, Poland 0-0).

      Despite the Italians having an advantage by playing at Rome, I think
      that is meaningless.  Firstly, the Italians beat England at home
      playing at Wembley stadium, so it can be done the other way around.
      Secondly, there will be 7,000 English fans supporting England, which
      is a record number going to Italy.

      Go England!

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my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Steve Jone » Wed, 24 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> :     David Beckham -- a good midfielder both for Man U and England. Good
> :     at passing and running forward (ie his pass that led to Shearer's goal
> :     against Poland).  

> That pass came from Paul Ince.  Also another reason why Italy will struggle
> to beat England.

And not just the pass either but the 1-2 with Lee in the centre circle,
probably the best team goal of last season.  Quick and accurate passing
with perfect support from teammates.

"Italy bomarded the England goal for the first five minutes until
Paul Ince broke free relasing Scholes who lifted the ball over the
last defender for Wright to score"

Paul Ince could be the man on whom the entire game rest, if he can shut
down the Italian midfield then the English players will be able to
take over.

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my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Marco Paserm » Wed, 24 Sep 1997 04:00:00

[top three reasons why England is a good side snipped]

There's no doubt that England is a good side, Seaman is a good goalkeper,
Beckham, ince and gascoigne are excellent midfielders and Wright can put
the ball in the back of the net (does that count as finishing? scoring? I
forgot).

But you seem to forget that there will also be 11 other players in blue
jerseys on the field, and you can also say about them that they have a
reliable goalkeeper, a solid midfield, and strikers (attackers? forwards?)
who can score.

I'm not particularly optimistic about this one for Italy. My prediction is
that Hoddle, despite his statements about going to Rome for the win, will
set up the team quite defensively. Italy, as always, will have a very hard
time in breaking a close defense. A 0-0 is the most likely score, but I
can see Inzaghi coming in as a sub and scoring the winner 10 minutes from
time...

Daniele

 
 
 

my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Marki » Wed, 24 Sep 1997 04:00:00

:     David Beckham -- a good midfielder both for Man U and England. Good
:     at passing and running forward (ie his pass that led to Shearer's goal
:     against Poland).  

That pass came from Paul Ince.  Also another reason why Italy will struggle
to beat England.

 
 
 

my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Steve Jone » Wed, 24 Sep 1997 04:00:00

[snip]

Quote:
> > can see Inzaghi coming in as a sub and scoring the winner 10 minutes from
> > time...

> I wish Mancini would get his chance...

Personally I'd like to see Maldini give all those players everybody thinks
should play a game, maybe a vote in one of the big footy papers.....
What better time to experiment, to try out new things, the English team
won't be expecting that... play Zola as sweeper with Di Matteo and Baggio
as CBs that'll catch England unawares....

Oh Go on... please :-)

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my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Steve Jone » Wed, 24 Sep 1997 04:00:00

[snip]

Quote:

> I'm not particularly optimistic about this one for Italy. My prediction is
> that Hoddle, despite his statements about going to Rome for the win, will
> set up the team quite defensively. Italy, as always, will have a very hard
> time in breaking a close defense. A 0-0 is the most likely score, but I
> can see Inzaghi coming in as a sub and scoring the winner 10 minutes from
> time...

And then being slated by the Italian press along with the Italian defence
for putting the ball into his own net while being pressured by Wright.
Crys of "it was a foul" "Wright pushed him" will ring across RSS but all
the England fans will remember is the way Inzaghi stooped to clear and the
ball just caught the underside of the bar and went in. The Sun headline the
next day will read "Its In-Za-Goal-he".  The other major talking point will
be the deliberate professional foul by Maldini on Macca which resulted
in only a yellow card.

I have seen, I am HG Wells :-)

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my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by BIll Clinto » Wed, 24 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> [top three reasons why England is a good side snipped]

> There's no doubt that England is a good side, Seaman is a good goalkeper,
> Beckham, ince and gascoigne are excellent midfielders and Wright can put
> the ball in the back of the net (does that count as finishing? scoring? I
> forgot).

> But you seem to forget that there will also be 11 other players in blue
> jerseys on the field, and you can also say about them that they have a
> reliable goalkeeper, a solid midfield, and strikers (attackers? forwards?)
> who can score.

> I'm not particularly optimistic about this one for Italy. My prediction is
> that Hoddle, despite his statements about going to Rome for the win, will
> set up the team quite defensively. Italy, as always, will have a very hard
> time in breaking a close defense. A 0-0 is the most likely score, but I
> can see Inzaghi coming in as a sub and scoring the winner 10 minutes from
> time...

I wish Mancini would get his chance...
 
 
 

my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Chris-Th.. » Wed, 24 Sep 1997 04:00:00



Quote:



> > :     David Beckham -- a good midfielder both for Man U and England. Good
> > :     at passing and running forward (ie his pass that led to Shearer's goal
> > :     against Poland).

> > That pass came from Paul Ince.  Also another reason why Italy will struggle
> > to beat England.

> And not just the pass either but the 1-2 with Lee in the centre circle,
> probably the best team goal of last season.  Quick and accurate passing
> with perfect support from teammates.

> "Italy bomarded the England goal for the first five minutes until
> Paul Ince broke free relasing Scholes who lifted the ball over the
> last defender for Wright to score"

> Paul Ince could be the man on whom the entire game rest, if he can shut
> down the Italian midfield then the English players will be able to
> take over.

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Sorry if I am mistaken, but Paul Ince did create a good pass for Shearer
in the second game against Poland, but I think in the very first game it
was Beckham who provided the pass.

Cheers,

Chris

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my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Chris-Th.. » Wed, 24 Sep 1997 04:00:00



Quote:


> [top three reasons why England is a good side snipped]

> There's no doubt that England is a good side, Seaman is a good goalkeper,
> Beckham, ince and gascoigne are excellent midfielders and Wright can put
> the ball in the back of the net (does that count as finishing? scoring? I
> forgot).

> But you seem to forget that there will also be 11 other players in blue
> jerseys on the field, and you can also say about them that they have a
> reliable goalkeeper, a solid midfield, and strikers (attackers? forwards?)
> who can score.

> I'm not particularly optimistic about this one for Italy. My prediction is
> that Hoddle, despite his statements about going to Rome for the win, will
> set up the team quite defensively. Italy, as always, will have a very hard
> time in breaking a close defense. A 0-0 is the most likely score, but I
> can see Inzaghi coming in as a sub and scoring the winner 10 minutes from
> time...

> Daniele

It all boils down to this:

If England play like they have been recently, and the same goes for the
Italians (0-0 Georgia), then I think England has the edge.

However, if Italy and England are at their best, it will be a tight match.
Whoever puts in the first goal is the winner, be it England or Italy.
In any case, Italy has looked rather shaky recently if you compare the
team to the English side. I am not saying Azurra is a bad side, I have a
lot of respect for them. But, in this game, I think it will be England all
the way unless Italia pull up their socks.

Cheers,

Chris

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my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Domin » Wed, 24 Sep 1997 04:00:00

  My three reasons why England will lose to Italy .  (1) Peruzzi - Is a
great goal keeper !  He has allowed one goal in 6 World Cup qualifers
and shutout England  at Wembley! And he  is very tough to beat in big
games .Just look at his  Champions League  record and goals allowed.
Yes, I will admitt that Dortmont had the best of him, but nobodys
perfect. And let me remind you about Seaman( your excellent under the
pressure guy?.)And the HUGE GOAL he gave up in the Cup Winners Cup to
Real Zaragoza . He is a good goal keeper ,but not better than Peruzzi.
        (2)  Italy's defence, midfield and forwards are as good or
better than Englands.  Are you actully comparing the Neville brothers to
Maldini ,Costacurta, Cannavaro and Panucci ,Maldini is still the Best
left back in the world bar none! And as you said yourself ,"Italy's
defence is the greatest in the world". Your statement speaks for itself.
The Italian midfield  is strong with D.  Baggio and Abertini (both
proven international players ) .They will miss Di Matteo ,but Conte is
in good form at Juve and will be soild along with Di Livio.All of them
can score as well as play back. As for the forwards ,Italy has the
advantage. Here is why:Shearer(out), Sheringham(not a 100 percent),
Wright( Great in the Premier League,  but this is not the Premier League
and Italy is not Moldova)Scholes( inexperenced in big games)and last but
not least Gascoigne ( Isn't he the same great talent, who couldn't make
it in Italy?)  The Azzurri forwards  : center forwards -Casirghi ( tough
to stop in the box),Inzaghi( very dangerous,pure goal scorer),Vieri(
young, stong in the air, and has a nose for the back of the net).A scary
bunch of big men. As for the set up/goal scorers ,the advantage is
clear: Zola( can create chances and score , and winner of the best
Premier Player last season. I don't have to tell the English anything
they see him every week),Roberto Baggio( probably the most talented
player on both squads ,a better playmaker than Zola when healthy.His
international record speaks for itself,with 26 goals in 47 games with
the Azzurri  .A tally hard to match with all players involved. ) Del
Pero( one of the best young forwards in the world today).
         (3) The Azzurri will never lose a match this big in the great
city of Rome!!!!!!!!!!
           Don't worry England supporters there is always the playoffs
,with other second place teams good luck ,you are a worthy opponent.
See you on October 11, 1997 !!!                                  Dominic
(FORZA ITALIA)    

 
 
 

my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Steve Jone » Thu, 25 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>   My three reasons why England will lose to Italy .  (1) Peruzzi - Is a
> great goal keeper !  He has allowed one goal in 6 World Cup qualifers
> and shutout England  at Wembley!

Dave "The Tash" Seamen has yet to conceed a goal in WCQ, he was injured
for the England v Italy game.

[snip]

Quote:
>          (3) The Azzurri will never lose a match this big in the great
> city of Rome!!!!!!!!!!

Where was the WC Semi final in 1990 held ?

Quote:
>            Don't worry England supporters there is always the playoffs
> ,with other second place teams good luck ,you are a worthy opponent.
> See you on October 11, 1997 !!!              

There is indeed which is why we will look forward to watching Italy play
Belgium on TV as we sit with our tickets to France in our hands, well
actually I'm already in France so I won't have to move :-)

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my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Marco Paserm » Thu, 25 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


>>   My three reasons why England will lose to Italy .  (1) Peruzzi - Is a
>> great goal keeper !  He has allowed one goal in 6 World Cup qualifers
>> and shutout England  at Wembley!
>Dave "The Tash" Seamen has yet to conceed a goal in WCQ, he was injured
>for the England v Italy game.

It says something about the quality of Georgia, Poland and Moldova...

Quote:
>[snip]
>>          (3) The Azzurri will never lose a match this big in the great
>> city of Rome!!!!!!!!!!
>Where was the WC Semi final in 1990 held ?

In Napoli. And Maradona, who was booed and hissed all over Italy during that WC,
tried to turn the Napoli public against Italy: "They call you terroni (dirty southerners)
all year long, and now they want you to support Italy when they need you? I instead
am the true representative of Napoli, I have brought you 2 scudetti, you Neapolitans should cheer
for Argentina instead!" This didn't help much. The Napoli crowd was all for Italy, but at least
they didn't boo Maradona...and anyway the match ended in a draw.

Daniele

 
 
 

my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Marki » Thu, 25 Sep 1997 04:00:00

:         (2)  Italy's defence, midfield >

Sorry, England's midfield edges out the Italian midfield.
That is putting it mildly.

 
 
 

my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by FIGC » Thu, 25 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Subject: Re: my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Date: 24 Sep 1997 09:34:19 +0200

[snip]

Quote:
>          (3) The Azzurri will never lose a match this big in the great
> city of Rome!!!!!!!!!!

Where was the WC Semi final in 1990 held ?

It was held in the Stadio San Paolo (Naples).

 
 
 

my top three reasons why Italy will lose to England

Post by Marki » Thu, 25 Sep 1997 04:00:00

:
: Where was the WC Semi final in 1990 held ?
:

Napoli.