How long should the suspension be for these comments?

How long should the suspension be for these comments?

Post by Manx Gunne » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 04:24:29


"You want a fair referee -- or a strong referee, anyway -- and we didn't get
that," he said. "I don't know why he has got the game. I must say, when I saw
who the referee was I did fear it. I feared the worst."

Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

--
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They don't believe." -- Jose Mourinho

 
 
 

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Post by RED DEVI » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 04:42:12



Quote:
>"You want a fair referee -- or a strong referee, anyway -- and we didn't get
>that," he said. "I don't know why he has got the game. I must say, when I saw
>who the referee was I did fear it. I feared the worst."

>Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
is not competent ,

 
 
 

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Post by Google Beta Use » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 04:48:10


Quote:
> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
> is not competent ,

So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
comments in your opinion?

 
 
 

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Post by RED DEVI » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:18:03

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User

Quote:


>> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

>> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

>> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
>> is not competent ,

>So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
>comments in your opinion?

Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
the media after matches just like players and management are. They
wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

 
 
 

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Post by Jussi Uosukaine » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 18:20:38

Quote:

> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User


>>> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

>>> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

>>> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
>>> is not competent ,

>>So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
>>comments in your opinion?

> Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

> I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
> the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
> the media after matches just like players and management are. They
> wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
> are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
> like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
> decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

To a degree I agree with you. But if the refs are made accountable this
way, we also have to get rid of the "the ref on pitch is always right"
mentality, so in other words we have to give the authorities the ability
to sanction players based on video evidence, if the ref got it wrong
(like the Rooney incident).

Also, I feel the refs should be more strict about carding players for
digression and whining, just in order to keep order on the pitch.
--
/jussi
You're perfect, yes, it's true
But without me you're only you
*FNM

 
 
 

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Post by Abubak » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 22:33:04


Quote:

> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User


> >> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

> >> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

> >> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
> >> is not competent ,

> >So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
> >comments in your opinion?

> Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

> I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
> the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
> the media after matches just like players and management are. They
> wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
> are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
> like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
> decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

Which begs the question, what did you and that hypocrite Fergie find
strange about the refs decisions against Chelsea?

--
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar
territory.

 
 
 

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Post by RED DEVI » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:02:37


Quote:

>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User


>>>> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

>>>> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

>>>> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
>>>> is not competent ,

>>>So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
>>>comments in your opinion?

>> Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

>> I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
>> the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
>> the media after matches just like players and management are. They
>> wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
>> are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
>> like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
>> decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

>To a degree I agree with you. But if the refs are made accountable this
>way, we also have to get rid of the "the ref on pitch is always right"
>mentality, so in other words we have to give the authorities the ability
>to sanction players based on video evidence, if the ref got it wrong
>(like the Rooney incident).

>Also, I feel the refs should be more strict about carding players for
>digression and whining, just in order to keep order on the pitch.

Agreed, as long as they don't mind explaining their decisions after
the match, I mean what are they afraid of?
 
 
 

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Post by RED DEVI » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:06:30



Quote:


>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User


>> >> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

>> >> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

>> >> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
>> >> is not competent ,

>> >So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
>> >comments in your opinion?

>> Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

>> I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
>> the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
>> the media after matches just like players and management are. They
>> wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
>> are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
>> like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
>> decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

>Which begs the question, what did you and that hypocrite Fergie find
>strange about the refs decisions against Chelsea?

Well, lets a take a neutrals view about that?

http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/51050/Graham_Poll_Ferguson_shoul...

 
 
 

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Post by Abubak » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:13:09


Quote:





> >> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User


> >> >> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

> >> >> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

> >> >> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
> >> >> is not competent ,

> >> >So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
> >> >comments in your opinion?

> >> Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

> >> I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
> >> the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
> >> the media after matches just like players and management are. They
> >> wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
> >> are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
> >> like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
> >> decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

> >Which begs the question, what did you and that hypocrite Fergie find
> >strange about the refs decisions against Chelsea?

> Well, lets a take a neutrals view about that?

> http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/51050/Graham_Poll_Ferguson_shoul...

No-one's a neutral. Now back to your statement, what incidents in the
Chelsea v Man Utd match did  you and the hypocrite Ferguson find
'strange' and which has led the hypocrite Fergie to imply that the ref
has it in for his team and is deliberately calling against them, i.e.
cheating?

--
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar
territory.

 
 
 

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Post by The Scrutinee » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:18:34




Quote:


>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User


>> >> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

>> >> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

>> >> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
>> >> is not competent ,

>> >So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
>> >comments in your opinion?

>> Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

>> I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
>> the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
>> the media after matches just like players and management are. They
>> wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
>> are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
>> like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
>> decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

>Which begs the question, what did you and that hypocrite Fergie find
>strange about the refs decisions against Chelsea?
> Well, lets a take a neutrals view about that?
> http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/51050/Graham_Poll_Ferguson_shoul...

Graham Poll is a neutral?

I never...

 
 
 

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Post by RED DEVI » Sat, 05 Mar 2011 00:47:20

On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 01:18:34 +1100, "The Scrutineer"

Quote:







>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User


>>> >> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

>>> >> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

>>> >> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
>>> >> is not competent ,

>>> >So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
>>> >comments in your opinion?

>>> Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

>>> I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
>>> the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
>>> the media after matches just like players and management are. They
>>> wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
>>> are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
>>> like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
>>> decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

>>Which begs the question, what did you and that hypocrite Fergie find
>>strange about the refs decisions against Chelsea?

>> Well, lets a take a neutrals view about that?

>> http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/51050/Graham_Poll_Ferguson_shoul...

>Graham Poll is a neutral?

>I never...

Well, he never liked United but he's a as neutral as there is now he's
retired.
 
 
 

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Post by RED DEVI » Sat, 05 Mar 2011 00:58:01



Quote:






>> >> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User


>> >> >> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

>> >> >> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

>> >> >> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
>> >> >> is not competent ,

>> >> >So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
>> >> >comments in your opinion?

>> >> Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

>> >> I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
>> >> the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
>> >> the media after matches just like players and management are. They
>> >> wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
>> >> are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
>> >> like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
>> >> decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

>> >Which begs the question, what did you and that hypocrite Fergie find
>> >strange about the refs decisions against Chelsea?

>> Well, lets a take a neutrals view about that?

>> http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/51050/Graham_Poll_Ferguson_shoul...

>No-one's a neutral. Now back to your statement, what incidents in the
>Chelsea v Man Utd match did  you and the hypocrite Ferguson find
>'strange' and which has led the hypocrite Fergie to imply that the ref
>has it in for his team and is deliberately calling against them, i.e.
>cheating?

I thought the penalty was indeed a penalty and have no complaints
about the Vidic dismissal. However there were two bookable fouls (body
checks on both Rooney and Chitcharito) that David Luiz completely got
away with that directly affected the outcome of the match. He was
already on a yellow when he committed both of them. Chelsea should
have been down to 10 men before they scored the equalizer.
 
 
 

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Post by Abubak » Sat, 05 Mar 2011 01:23:49


Quote:









> >> >> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User


> >> >> >> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

> >> >> >> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

> >> >> >> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
> >> >> >> is not competent ,

> >> >> >So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
> >> >> >comments in your opinion?

> >> >> Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

> >> >> I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
> >> >> the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
> >> >> the media after matches just like players and management are. They
> >> >> wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
> >> >> are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
> >> >> like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
> >> >> decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

> >> >Which begs the question, what did you and that hypocrite Fergie find
> >> >strange about the refs decisions against Chelsea?

> >> Well, lets a take a neutrals view about that?

> >> http://SportToday.org/

> >No-one's a neutral. Now back to your statement, what incidents in the
> >Chelsea v Man Utd match did  you and the hypocrite Ferguson find
> >'strange' and which has led the hypocrite Fergie to imply that the ref
> >has it in for his team and is deliberately calling against them, i.e.

I didn't see the Hernandez incident but all the people that think the
Rooney foul warrented a yellow card, in and of itself, need a reality
check. The foul, though cynical, was of almost of no consequence to the
subsequent play: the receiver of Rooney's pass had moved the ball on in
another direction and even if Rooney wasn't fouled he wouldn't have
received the ball again and nor would he have done so if he had picked
himself up quickly which he had all the chance in the world to do.
Furthermore, it wasn't a *** foul either. Play on without any
retrospective card is the right call.

Now compare David Luiz's conduct to Vidic throughout the game and it
should be clear that only one deserved to be ejected from the game at
any point.

--
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar
territory.

 
 
 

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Post by RED DEVI » Sat, 05 Mar 2011 03:03:40



Quote:










>> >> >> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:48:10 -0800 (PST), Google Beta User


>> >> >> >> >Surely the above is WELL out of order and will bring the FA's wrath?

>> >> >> >> Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger :

>> >> >> >> I believe he is incompetent or dishonest, so I prefer to believe he
>> >> >> >> is not competent ,

>> >> >> >So what should've the FA made of the Arsenal manager Arsene Wengers
>> >> >> >comments in your opinion?

>> >> >> Absolutely nothing, was just pointing out that all managers do it.

>> >> >> I think the Ref's are protected way too much, every other component of
>> >> >> the game can be questioned but not refs. They should be made to face
>> >> >> the media after matches just like players and management are. They
>> >> >> wanted to be professionals like the players, they got their wish but
>> >> >> are treated like a protected species. If they had to answer questions
>> >> >> like everyone else then I believe we'd see some of these strange
>> >> >> decisions (or non decisions) vanish from the game.

>> >> >Which begs the question, what did you and that hypocrite Fergie find
>> >> >strange about the refs decisions against Chelsea?

>> >> Well, lets a take a neutrals view about that?

>> >> http://SportToday.org/

>> >No-one's a neutral. Now back to your statement, what incidents in the
>> >Chelsea v Man Utd match did  you and the hypocrite Ferguson find
>> >'strange' and which has led the hypocrite Fergie to imply that the ref
>> >has it in for his team and is deliberately calling against them, i.e.

>I didn't see the Hernandez incident but all the people that think the
>Rooney foul warrented a yellow card, in and of itself, need a reality
>check. The foul, though cynical, was of almost of no consequence to the
>subsequent play: the receiver of Rooney's pass had moved the ball on in
>another direction and even if Rooney wasn't fouled he wouldn't have
>received the ball again and nor would he have done so if he had picked
>himself up quickly which he had all the chance in the world to do.
>Furthermore, it wasn't a *** foul either. Play on without any
>retrospective card is the right call.

It was a yellow bordering on a red for the Rooney foul and a straight
red on the Hernandez ***. Luiz was already on a yellow when he did
both.

Quote:
>Now compare David Luiz's conduct to Vidic throughout the game and it
>should be clear that only one deserved to be ejected from the game at
>any point.

That could only be said by you..I'm not going to try and debate it
with you since it's obvious that you have no intention of being fair
minded. Comparing Vidic's foul play to Luiz in this match Vidic comes
out like a saint.
 
 
 

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Post by Abubak » Sat, 05 Mar 2011 07:36:47


Quote:
> It was a yellow bordering on a red for the Rooney foul and a straight
> red on the Hernandez ***.

Why?

Quote:
>Luiz was already on a yellow when he did
> both.

Irrelevant.

Quote:
> >Now compare David Luiz's conduct to Vidic throughout the game and it
> >should be clear that only one deserved to be ejected from the game at
> >any point.

> That could only be said by you..I'm not going to try and debate it
> with you since it's obvious that you have no intention of being fair
> minded. Comparing Vidic's foul play to Luiz in this match Vidic comes
> out like a saint.

Of course you're not going to debate it because you're biased twit and a
hypocrite like Fergie. Every foul of Vidic was on the player on the ball
who was making a way towards goal and a couple of those deservedly got a
yellow. There's no comparison with an off the ball trip like the Rooney
one. Wake up!

--
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar
territory.