Stuart Barnes and Leicester Tigers

Stuart Barnes and Leicester Tigers

Post by James Harbidg » Sat, 15 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Am I alone in thinking that this bloke is just about the worst rugby
journalist in the northern hemisphere?
Have Sky Sports employed him just to be an obnoxious ***?
Every time he comments on a Leicester game he drones on and on about the
times he remembers "being under that ferocious rolling maul with Dean
Richards at the helm".He would go on and on about Leicester's one
dimensional game that was in effect 10 man rugby. We have changed a bit
since then.
Admit it, it was sucessful... It won matches... That is the most
important part in league rugby. Nobody want to watch a losing team...
That Would explain why Leicester has a membership that far outnumbers
most of the first division put together! ( 16,000 last season!!)
The type of game Leicester are now playing puts most clubs to shame, and
this was shown when they played bath in the cup. It was bath who chose
to play 3 #8's in the back row. This just slowed their game down, and
gave Neil Back & Co. the freedom of Bath. At least Barnsey had the sense
to eat his words on air.
Are there any fans of other clubs who think that he is too biased
towards Bath?
Also, why don't Sky Sports show more Leicester matches... We have he
biggest support in the country, and by far the biggest group of
travveling supporters, but time and time again they show matches
involving NEC ( Nobody Even Cares) Harlequins, Bath and Saracens because
they are the fashionable teams. Rugby does exist north of Enfield!

James from Leicester

 
 
 

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Post by Matt Buxto » Sat, 15 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> Am I alone in thinking that this bloke is just about the worst rugby
> journalist in the northern hemisphere?
> Have Sky Sports employed him just to be an obnoxious ***?
> Every time he comments on a Leicester game he drones on and on about the
> times he remembers "being under that ferocious rolling maul with Dean
> Richards at the helm".He would go on and on about Leicester's one
> dimensional game that was in effect 10 man rugby. We have changed a bit
> since then.

<snip>

Quote:
> Are there any fans of other clubs who think that he is too biased
> towards Bath?

<snip>

Quote:

> James from Leicester

I am not even a Leicester fan, but I must agree that Barnes is a sad little
man. He seems so bitter about all those games he didn't play for England
that he just cannot complement anyone who plays well enough to get selected
for England (well unless they happen to play at Bath)

 
 
 

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Post by James William » Sat, 15 Mar 1997 04:00:00

  Am I alone in thinking that this bloke is just about the worst rugby

  journalist in the northern hemisphere?
  Have Sky Sports employed him just to be an obnoxious ***?
  Every time he comments on a Leicester game he drones on and on about
  the
  times he remembers "being under that ferocious rolling maul with
  Dean
  Richards at the helm".He would go on and on about Leicester's one
  dimensional game that was in effect 10 man rugby. We have changed a
  bit
  since then.

James, For the record i do agree with you in as much as Stuart Barnes is
without doubt the worst commentator/journalist i have ever listened/read
to and about.I also agree that Leicester have changed and produce good
running "interactive" rugby.

BUT (now you get worried) please please please do not mention Mr
Barnes's name, for the one and only reason = it gives him more press and
appearance than a man of so obvious little talent deserves.

A?COMPLETE?DICKHEAD

Cheers,
James W.

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Davie » Sat, 15 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> Also, why don't Sky Sports show more Leicester matches... We have he
> biggest support in the country, and by far the biggest group of
> travveling supporters, but time and time again they show matches
> involving NEC ( Nobody Even Cares) Harlequins, Bath and Saracens because
> they are the fashionable teams. Rugby does exist north of Enfield!

Wow, Saracens are a fashionable club. I think not. As a supporter for many
years it makes a pleasent change to see Sarries on the TV, now I don't live
too close to Enfield, (or Southgate).

Since I was brought up in Bristol, I have not forgiven Barnes for missing
the
penalty in the last minute of the John Player Cup, giving victory to Bath,
then
sodding off to Bath, the next year.

And you're right he is a carp journo.

Paul Davies

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Dutto » Sun, 16 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
>Also, why don't Sky Sports show more Leicester matches... We have he
>biggest support in the country, and by far the biggest group of
>travveling supporters, but time and time again they show matches
>involving NEC ( Nobody Even Cares) Harlequins, Bath and Saracens because
>they are the fashionable teams. Rugby does exist north of Enfield!
>James from Leicester

Especially in Sale.  Further north than Leicester and all the better for it!!


 
 
 

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Post by John Morg » Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
>And you're right he is a carp journo.

And he's got no sole. Bit of a cold fish. It's a wonder he even knows
where the plaice is. And I'm not even going to mention Sky's other
presenter, Jamie Salmon. Oh Cod, I did. Sorry.

John
--
"The time for action is past! Now is the time for senseless bickering!"
                -- Ashleigh Brilliant

 
 
 

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Post by Mart » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> Am I alone in thinking that this bloke is just about the worst rugby
> journalist in the northern hemisphere?
> Have Sky Sports employed him just to be an obnoxious ***?
> Every time he comments on a Leicester game he drones on and on about the
> times he remembers "being under that ferocious rolling maul with Dean
> Richards at the helm".He would go on and on about Leicester's one
> dimensional game that was in effect 10 man rugby. We have changed a bit
> since then.
> Admit it, it was sucessful... It won matches...

Certainly, but how many championships did it win!
You have to take these things into consideration ;

Stuart Barnes is incredibly biased given the Leicester side
were the biggest rivals he met at club level.

Barnes was an attacking player, who took a lot of risks.

Barnes happened to play in a side that was innovative and
often entertaining and exciting to watch.

By contrast Leicester had a terrific pack whose idea of
Rugby was to hide the ball up the jumper, this style of play
just totally baffled the Rugby League spectator and infuriated
the neutral Rugby Union fan.

Barnes also is extremely bitter and twisted concerning his
England career (justifiably so given the talents of Andrew).
Interesting how hois sentiments were quitly echoed by Catt
and Guscott following the World Cup.

Quote:
> That is the most
> important part in league rugby. Nobody want to watch a losing team...
> That Would explain why Leicester has a membership that far outnumbers
> most of the first division put together! ( 16,000 last season!!)

That would explain Northampton then wouldn't it.

Quote:
> The type of game Leicester are now playing puts most clubs to shame, and
> this was shown when they played bath in the cup. It was bath who chose
> to play 3 #8's in the back row. This just slowed their game down, and
> gave Neil Back & Co. the freedom of Bath. At least Barnsey had the sense
> to eat his words on air.

Yes Bath have not adjusted to the new era very well so far.
On the pitch and off of it they have taken a nose dive.

Quote:
> Are there any fans of other clubs who think that he is too biased
> towards Bath?

Yes, I do. Though if you expect journalists to be impartial (particularly
those that have played it at international level) that is rather naive.

Quote:
> Also, why don't Sky Sports show more Leicester matches...

Hold on a sec, I seemed to get the impression from your first paragraph that
Leicester matches with Barnes commentary was a weekly occurrence.

Quote:
> We have he
> biggest support in the country, and by far the biggest group of
> travveling supporters, but time and time again they show matches
> involving NEC ( Nobody Even Cares) Harlequins, Bath and Saracens because
> they are the fashionable teams.

Bath have tended to be fashionable in the same way that West Indies-Cricket,
Brazil-Soccer, Agassi-Tennis are fashionable, i.e. they are entertaining to watch
and play with great style whilst being highly successful.

As far Quins and Saracens, get a clue.

Leicester have 16,000 members what is the average gate this season?
Now it seems Leicester are as fashionable as any other club in England.

Quote:
> Rugby does exist north of Enfield!

Get a life and would you like some salt with that chip.

Quote:
> James from Leicester

You don't say, now let me guess, you are a Leicester City fan as well.

Mart. who spent a couple of years in Leicester, so has come across
similar ramblings a few times before, though not usually from Rugby
fans.

 
 
 

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Post by John Willia » Fri, 21 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
>Bath have tended to be fashionable in the same way that West Indies-Cricket,
>Brazil-Soccer, Agassi-Tennis are fashionable, i.e. they are entertaining to watch
>and play with great style whilst being highly successful.
>As far Quins and Saracens, get a clue.
>Leicester have 16,000 members what is the average gate this season?
>Now it seems Leicester are as fashionable as any other club in England.

I think last season Leicester had 14,000 members, and this season it's
around 12,500.

The official average gate for home Courage League games is 9300. Highest
gate was 16320 (Toulouse, European Cup). Lowest was 2044 (Bridgend,
Anglo-Welsh). How accurate the official gates are is another matter.

The doubling of the membership fee is one reason for the decline, although I
know of more than one former Leicester member who didn't renew because of
dissatisfaction with professionalisation. One guy I know showed appaling
timing by saying he wasn't going to watch any more 10 man stuff, and went
halves with a friend on a Leicester City (soccer) membership. I might have
the figure wrong, but I think that's around 500 pounds, more than 5 times
the rugger (albeit for more games).

All the best


 
 
 

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Post by Lisa Smit » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00


s.mhs.ciba.com> writes

Quote:

>> That is the most
>> important part in league rugby. Nobody want to watch a losing team...
>> That Would explain why Leicester has a membership that far outnumbers
>> most of the first division put together! ( 16,000 last season!!)

>That would explain Northampton then wouldn't it.

Are you calling Northampton a bunch of losers??

--
Lisa