Aus deserving winners of Bledisloe Cup

Aus deserving winners of Bledisloe Cup

Post by Lois Y » Thu, 06 Aug 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> Rugby League???!!!???

> Yep, I saw a game of rugby league the other day with 12-13 rucks and mauls
> in a row.

> It also had lots of marks inside the 22, some great pilfering of the ball in
> mauls and rucks,

> and and...

> I don't know why I am replying to this total piece of shit post.

> You Kiwi's started this running rugby stuff, told us it was how to play, and
> then forgot all about it.

> Not our problem.

> Ian

They also showed the rugby world how to crow when they're on top.  Now
they're showing how to whine when they're not.  World beaters at both.
South Africa & Australia BOTH have the right to crow now (I don't think
there's the width of a piece of paper between them right now).  The
relative positions will likely change before the RWC, but let the
winners crow for how - Kiwi's I'm sure will get another turn not to far
down the road.

Lois

 
 
 

Aus deserving winners of Bledisloe Cup

Post by Lois Y » Thu, 06 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


> >Do not rate teams on one or two games.

> No please don't. But make sure you make up your mind on the games that
> are relevant for this. So don't think that SA is superior to whoever
> since they won the World Cup. The teams (both SA and the opponent)
> have changed simply too much.

> Both Aus and SA have changed over the last year. Mallett and Macqueen
> have done great jobs there and given the results during this test
> season (in NZ, Aus and NZ, not only 3N) one could (arguably) say that
> SA and NZ are the best at this moment.

> It is however impossible to say that SA is better because of this win
> by one point in the rain in Perth. Moreover I can say that Aus beat NZ
> more convincingly (and two times as well), so maybe Aus is better. The
> next tests between Aus and SA are going to decide that.

Pssst Mees, Aus has beaten NZ twice to SA's one because they've played
them twice & SA only once.  The Australia/SA match WILL likely decide
the tri-nations championship, but you've also must take into
consideration head-to head competition:  the one SA/Aus match played
this year was won by SA. Ok, only by one point, but it was in Australia
- home field (alright Perth is barely home field for Aus, but it was
their choice) should count for something.

Australia is up on points in the Tri-nations, SA on record - when did
they last lose compared to Australia?  VEEEEERRRRRY closely matched,
though.  I'm sure glad they're meeting at Ellis Park & not in the muck
of Newlands.

Lois

 
 
 

Aus deserving winners of Bledisloe Cup

Post by Lois Y » Thu, 06 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:



> :WoW!, what a short memory you have.
> :Since beating Oz in SA last year (Sixty odd points to how much
> :(little)) the Boks have not lost a match, this includes the beating of
> :NZ and OZ and we are the current World Champions. Remember we beat Oz
> :soundly in the opening game of the World Cup!
> :We went through a bad patch and are now back with a bang.
> :Springboks are No1!

> Despite your persistent refusal to address any of the propositions made by
> other posters and your complete failure to absorb the fact that Rick is a
> KIWI not an Australian, yes SA can consider themselves, albeit with two Tri
> Nations matches to play, the best side in the World on this 3rd day of
> August 1998.

> :and I would rate NZ before OZ and maybe even the French could be no 3.

> Could you enlighten me on your application of logic here? Let me enlighten
> you, there is no logic, just a lame attempt to generate emotional responses

> :Do not rate teams on one or two games.
> :The World Cup may be an eyeopener to you next year.

> Why? Has The Netherlands qualified?

> :If Oz were that great then why did'nt they win the last World Cup?

> Because they wern't great then you prize dingbat (rare marsupial)
> :

Oh contraire - the dingbat (Dufus majoris) is a very common creature
with worldwide distribution.  In the States, they're often found in the
offices of the very powerful.  One can hear their cry everywhere:
"Huh"?  This cry does tend to vary depending on the continent & region,
however.  They're indiscriminant breeders, and have even been known to
mate with humans and produce hybred offspring.  These hybreds are
virtually indistinguishable from the pure dingbats, and in fact there is
some evidence that in some areas, these dingbat-human crosses are the
*** species.

Lois (author of  "Dingbats, Dimwits, and Morons:  A Comprehensive
Comparative Review" and "Dingbats, the Greatest Threat to Man"

 
 
 

Aus deserving winners of Bledisloe Cup

Post by Adam P. R. Taylo » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


> > You Kiwi's started this running rugby stuff, told us it was how to play, and
> > then forgot all about it.
> They also showed the rugby world how to crow when they're on top.  Now
> they're showing how to whine when they're not.

Lois, do you actuall read any other posts?
Apart from the odd flying troll, almost to person
the NZers's on this ng have not whined or whinged
about the recent AB losses. made alot of noise and
called for *** perhaps, but very little whinging

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Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering
University of Canterbury
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Christchurch
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Post by Paul Dutto » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


>> >Bowman scored after 7 minutes after a suspect knock on, but then Welsh
>> >idiot referee Bevan missed knock ons all day, along with numerous other
>> >basic stuff, although he wasn't as pedantic as usual.

>>                     Oh dearie, dearie me ! What a woeful excuse !
>> Everybody knew that they were going to lose again and it is shameful of
>> you to come up with such predictability. Surely you could have thought
>> of something else ? Mass flatulence, worms, malaria, any ***y thing !
>> But, no, you blame the referee again. It's time New Zealand had a
>> complete overhaul of its rugby. It should start with its so-called
>> supporters. Boring !
>> --
>No, Nigel, Australia would have thumped us whatever. But Bevan was
>really pretty poor. Woefully inconsistent, given to needlessly halting
>play (on one occasion he whistled because the front rows had gone down -
>when the ball was already out as far as Horan!) and sometimes appearing
>to blow the whistle on spec (eg: when he called back Walter Little for
>finding touch from outside his 22m line - he couldn't have seen it, and
>he was *wrong*).

Had to laugh when Bevan missed the forward pass that led to the 2nd AB try.

This is the new dawn for New Zealand rugby.

Say thank you.


 
 
 

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Post by John Bicke » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
> They also showed the rugby world how to crow when they're on top.  Now
> they're showing how to whine when they're not.  World beaters at both.

    Er, you shouldn't go making up lies about us to try and hide the
    embarrassing behaviour of a few SAfs and Australians here and
    there. Just let them do their thing, and the less anyone else
    says either for or against, the better.

--

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Post by b.. » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
> Pssst Mees, Aus has beaten NZ twice to SA's one because they've played
> them twice & SA only once.  The Australia/SA match WILL likely decide
> the tri-nations championship, but you've also must take into
> consideration head-to head competition:  the one SA/Aus match played
> this year was won by SA. Ok, only by one point, but it was in Australia
> - home field (alright Perth is barely home field for Aus, but it was
> their choice) should count for something.

Pssst, Lois. South Africa scored one try to Australia's two in Perth and
basically won because and only because Burke had a rare off day with his
kicking. I wouldn't say South Africa are lucky but I bet they were all out
that night buying all the lotto tickets they could get their hands on.

It mightn't be as close as you think.

-- Rick Boyd, NOT an Australian

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Post by b.. » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
> Pssst Mees, Aus has beaten NZ twice to SA's one because they've played
> them twice & SA only once.  The Australia/SA match WILL likely decide
> the tri-nations championship, but you've also must take into
> consideration head-to head competition:  the one SA/Aus match played
> this year was won by SA. Ok, only by one point, but it was in Australia
> - home field (alright Perth is barely home field for Aus, but it was
> their choice) should count for something.

Pssst, Lois. South Africa scored one try to Australia's two in Perth and
basically won because and only because Burke had a rare off day with his
kicking. I wouldn't say South Africa are lucky but I bet they were all out
that night buying all the lotto tickets they could get their hands on.

It mightn't be as close as you think.

-- Rick Boyd, NOT an Australian

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Post by Johan van Zyl - JVZ Systems » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Well this was started by the Oz who reckon to be beaten by one point
actually results in you being rated higher than the team that beat
you!!.
I never looked a one point advantage as  floggng but maybe that is how
you experience it.
On Fri, 7 Aug 1998 01:48:37 +1000, "Ian Daley"

Quote:

>>My rankings:
>>SA
>>NZ
>>France
>>Aus
>>England

>Hmm... This is seriously funny.

>Definitely troll material Johan.

>On what basis do you rank France against Australia?

>Like I have stated earlier, 1 point doesn't make a ***.

>Ian

Johan van Zyl
Somerset West
South Africa

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Post by Mees Roelo » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>I'll let you know after the third and completely irrelevent Bledisloe Cup
>match.

For the BC the match is not necessary, but I reckon there's a lot at
stake.

The Aussies will be desperate for a 3-0 victory. It'd be the ultimate
*** to their biggest rivals and they haven't done that for
quite some time.

The All Blacks on the contrary will not only be keen to avoid a
whitewash, but they also are starting their 'new' team, which needs
confidence and matches to improve its game.

Cheers,

Mees Roelofs
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Post by Mees Roelo » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Pssst Mees, Aus has beaten NZ twice to SA's one because they've played
>them twice & SA only once.  The Australia/SA match WILL likely decide
>the tri-nations championship, but you've also must take into
>consideration head-to head competition:  the one SA/Aus match played
>this year was won by SA. Ok, only by one point, but it was in Australia
>- home field (alright Perth is barely home field for Aus, but it was
>their choice) should count for something.

On the Perth match:

* Aus actually outscored the Boks on tries
* The match was played in the rain
* One point difference

Now can such a match make up the difference between two teams?

Quote:
>Australia is up on points in the Tri-nations, SA on record - when did
>they last lose compared to Australia?  VEEEEERRRRRY closely matched,
>though.  I'm sure glad they're meeting at Ellis Park & not in the muck
>of Newlands.

SA has the advantage of the match being played on a high altitude.
This might them give a run during the last quarter of the match. If
Aus want to win the game they need a pretty solid lead after 60
minutes IMO.

Cheers,

Mees Roelofs
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Post by Ian Dale » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>My rankings:
>SA
>NZ
>France
>Aus
>England

Hmm... This is seriously funny.

Definitely troll material Johan.

On what basis do you rank France against Australia?

Like I have stated earlier, 1 point doesn't make a ***.

Ian

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Dutto » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


>> You're right Brian; these days I need to create a reason to go to the pub,
>> & 'Kiwi-bashing' (metaphorically speaking, of course) will do nicely. I
>> wonder if Rick is coming to Bunbury in the near future?

>> Sculler
>I'll let you know after the third and completely irrelevent Bledisloe Cup
>match.

No way.  It's anything but that.  You saddo AB's need a win and Dwayne Dibley
needs it even more.

After the record stuffing in SA that he's going to have to 'handle'.  !!


 
 
 

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Post by Paul Dutto » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>>        The invincibility of the Southern Hemisphere has been
>>shattered. The minute their serenity is disturbed they blame their
>>coach. They blame their players. They blame everybody - except
>>themselves.
>I actually thought that we did a great job of blaming ourselves.
>The invincibility of SH hasn't been touched. Only SH teams beat us,
>and what is now the #3 team in the world STILL thrashed England. I'd
>suggest that these results show your beloved NH teams are in even
>worse shape than first thought.

Erm... Not quite.  The #3 team in the world looked ***against England 'C'
for 60mins then got lucky.

They tried the same thing vs Australia last weekend but were ***for 78mins
before they got lucky.  That is the difference between playing a 'C' team and
a test side.

You'll find out the hard way next year.


 
 
 

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Post by b.. » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> Well this was started by the Oz who reckon to be beaten by one point
> actually results in you being rated higher than the team that beat
> you!!.

Now listen carefully, Johan. I'm going to say it slowly, one last time.

I am not an Australian. I am one of the 50,000 Kiwis living in Perth, Western
Australia.

I rated Australia higher than South Africa because there are more important
things in analysis than a one point win in the rain. Things like Australia
scoring two tries to one. Things like the Australian kicker having an off day,
which is really the only reason you won and we all know it. Even you know it.
Things like Australia having a dynamic attacking backline and South Africa
having a steady but basically average backline whose strong point is defence.
And this is an attack-oriented game these days.

The proof will be in the pudding, as they say, in South Africa in two weeks
time. If South Africa win well there I will have no hesitation in saying the
Aussies have not made the grade, yes, SA are number one and good luck to them.
But at present there is nothing to convince me this is the case. Nothing.

Now, has that penetrated?

Good.

-- Rick Boyd

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