League "World Cup"

League "World Cup"

Post by Chris Corb » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Is this the biggest farce the ARL possibly contrive?????

It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit about the
game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it is
much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close matches
than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday night!
But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of the
Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).  Maybe
Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they only
need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!

The only other viable competetion is going to be in the form of a broken up
Great Britain.  Thats right, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England will all
be playing for national pride (scoff scoff) before an Australian
Demolition!!!!  Maybe it will be more enjoyable if these sides can somehow
draft some Australians with Welsh or Irish heritage to make the game more
convincing...  of course they wouldn't have much more of a future in the
international game afterwards.

And everyone better beware of the superpowers in pool 3 where the great
quality of matches coming up are going to involve the following league super
powers:

France
Tonga
PNG
South Africa  (I am suprised they stooped so low!!!!)

One of these teams had better be wary when they have to take on Russia in
the Semi Finals!!!!!

I mean honestly??  When will the ARL just accept that there is no way in
hell it will ever become a global game.  Even rugby Union has to struggle
against the *** of soccer, but at least there is more than one team
that can win the world cup!!!

 
 
 

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Post by mark low » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> Is this the biggest farce the ARL possibly contrive?????

> It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
> game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
> international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

> Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit about the
> game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it is
> much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close
matches
> than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday night!
> But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of the
> Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).  Maybe
> Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they
only
> need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!

> The only other viable competetion is going to be in the form of a broken
up
> Great Britain.  Thats right, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England will all
> be playing for national pride (scoff scoff) before an Australian
> Demolition!!!!  Maybe it will be more enjoyable if these sides can somehow
> draft some Australians with Welsh or Irish heritage to make the game more
> convincing...  of course they wouldn't have much more of a future in the
> international game afterwards.

> And everyone better beware of the superpowers in pool 3 where the great
> quality of matches coming up are going to involve the following league
super
> powers:

> France
> Tonga
> PNG
> South Africa  (I am suprised they stooped so low!!!!)

> One of these teams had better be wary when they have to take on Russia in
> the Semi Finals!!!!!

> I mean honestly??  When will the ARL just accept that there is no way in
> hell it will ever become a global game.

    Why does it worry you so much then?

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
>Even rugby Union has to struggle
> against the *** of soccer, but at least there is more than one team
> that can win the world cup!!!


 
 
 

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Post by Dan t » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> Is this the biggest farce the ARL possibly contrive?????

As I regard myself as a supporter of both codes....and...........no.....

Many people around soccer and basketball would regard the Rugby Union "world
cup"as a farce as well.

Quote:

> It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
> game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
> international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

In fact the Australian Rugby League has done little to promote the
international game in recent years.The British are more likely to promote
the international game.

Quote:

> Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit about the
> game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it is
> much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close
matches
> than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday night!

It was a farce,but so was the 76-0 we saw 2 years ago vs a so called "World
Rugby power"

Quote:
> But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of the
> Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).  Maybe
> Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they
only
> need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!

The Maori team for the Rugby League World Cup is a joke.

Quote:

> The only other viable competetion is going to be in the form of a broken
up
> Great Britain.  Thats right, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England will all
> be playing for national pride (scoff scoff) before an Australian

"scoff scoff" at the Rugby Union break down of the British Isles.

Do you want to know what the Rugby home nations record vs Australia is since
Australians got serious about Rugby during the Grand Slam tour of 1984?

Australian Wallabies vs (England,Scotland,Wales,Ireland) since 1984
Played:40
Won:36
Loss: 3
Drawn:1

Is that really a true contest in modern times?

This is no different to the British Rugby League record vs Australia during
the same period and in fact,its probably better than their Rugby
counterparts!

Quote:
> Demolition!!!!  Maybe it will be more enjoyable if these sides can somehow
> draft some Australians with Welsh or Irish heritage to make the game more
> convincing...  of course they wouldn't have much more of a future in the
> international game afterwards.

Sounds like the Welsh team

Quote:

> And everyone better beware of the superpowers in pool 3 where the great
> quality of matches coming up are going to involve the following league
super
> powers:

> France
> Tonga
> PNG
> South Africa  (I am suprised they stooped so low!!!!)

If PNG played Rugby Union with the same enthousiasm as they do with Rugby
League,they would regually defeat the home nation teams.

Quote:

> One of these teams had better be wary when they have to take on Russia in
> the Semi Finals!!!!!

Go have a look at all your called superpowers that played last year in
Wales?

Quote:

> I mean honestly??  When will the ARL just accept that there is no way in
> hell it will ever become a global game.  Even rugby Union has to struggle
> against the *** of soccer, but at least there is more than one team
> that can win the world cup!!!

well..its probably 2 teams that have a real chance,but is that,that much
worse than 3?

How about you open your mind a little and enjoy both the codes.You might
learn something.

Dan

 
 
 

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Post by Ian » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Quote:



> > Is this the biggest farce the ARL possibly contrive?????

> As I regard myself as a supporter of both codes....and...........no.....

> Many people around soccer and basketball would regard the Rugby Union
"world
> cup"as a farce as well.

Yes, but there were a sizeable number of nations participating in the
competition (or didn't through lack of qualification) that were interested
in it.

Quote:

> > It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
> > game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
> > international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

> In fact the Australian Rugby League has done little to promote the
> international game in recent years.The British are more likely to promote
> the international game.

I think in part the NRL is ashamed of the situation, and the gap between it
and the rest of the Rugby League world (England NZ)

Quote:

> > Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit about
the
> > game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it is
> > much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close
> matches
> > than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday
night!

> It was a farce,but so was the 76-0 we saw 2 years ago vs a so called
"World
> Rugby power"

Yes, that was a farce. You would struggle to find argument from me on that
count, but the only person I know who has tried to argue otherwise is um....
I'll bite my lip :-)  However, at least we knew before they got here what
the outcome would undoubtly be, and many of us consider it an act of
betrayal from the poms. It upsets me, but I don't lay awake night thinking
about it, like a certain food poisoning incident :-t~

Quote:
> > But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of
the
> > Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).
Maybe
> > Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they
> only
> > need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!

No can do, he's gone walkabout. Won't be back until he makes cover of TV
Week.

Quote:
> The Maori team for the Rugby League World Cup is a joke.

> > The only other viable competetion is going to be in the form of a broken
> up
> > Great Britain.  Thats right, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England will
all
> > be playing for national pride (scoff scoff) before an Australian

> "scoff scoff" at the Rugby Union break down of the British Isles.

Well, its a point of argument isn't it. I think the point trying to be made
here is it goes like this. Hands up who has Wales parentage? Okay over
there. Okay, now Scottish, good put these jerseys on. Irish, hmmm.... you
look Irish what's your name? Goldstein? yep, that sounds Irish to me, over
there with the Guiseppe brothers.

At least the home nations in Rugby play together quite quite often in a
regular tourney. I consider them Rugby nations, and don't ask me about the
Lions :-)

Quote:

> Do you want to know what the Rugby home nations record vs Australia is
since
> Australians got serious about Rugby during the Grand Slam tour of 1984?

I know our record against the All Blacks and South Africa and its not that
good.

Quote:
> Australian Wallabies vs (England,Scotland,Wales,Ireland) since 1984
> Played:40
> Won:36
> Loss: 3
> Drawn:1

Nothing better then beating the poms. But there were some tough encounters
there.

Quote:
> Is that really a true contest in modern times?

I haven't regarded them as a threat as long as I can remember, hmm... except
when the drew a couple of years ago. I admit they are slowly getting better,
but we are getting better too. The 76-0 pasting is a never to be repeated
feat of clubs vs unions that has bee firmly taken care of (apparently?)

Quote:
> This is no different to the British Rugby League record vs Australia
during
> the same period and in fact,its probably better than their Rugby
> counterparts!

Up until recent years I enjoyed watching these games. Now, I am not so sure
after the Tri-series last year. looked more like a tryhard-series.

Quote:
> > Demolition!!!!  Maybe it will be more enjoyable if these sides can
somehow
> > draft some Australians with Welsh or Irish heritage to make the game
more
> > convincing...  of course they wouldn't have much more of a future in the
> > international game afterwards.

> Sounds like the Welsh team

Undoubtly, but while the IRB have taken harsh measures to stop this from
happening again, RL seems to be encouraging it.

Quote:
> > And everyone better beware of the superpowers in pool 3 where the great
> > quality of matches coming up are going to involve the following league
> super
> > powers:

> > France
> > Tonga
> > PNG
> > South Africa  (I am suprised they stooped so low!!!!)

PNG actually could be the surprise package.

Quote:

> If PNG played Rugby Union with the same enthousiasm as they do with Rugby
> League,they would regually defeat the home nation teams.

Don't think so, they look good in the 7s, but they lack the commitment and
leadership required to maintain composure in the fast paced game of RU.
Remember, no interchange kiddies!

Quote:
> > One of these teams had better be wary when they have to take on Russia
in
> > the Semi Finals!!!!!

Scarey, on many fronts.

Quote:
> Go have a look at all your called superpowers that played last year in
> Wales?

Argentina, France, South Africa, New Zealand and England for my mind all had
good chances of making the semis. England has played in the final once, and
France twice. It has only been a SH Vs SH final once, back in 95 IIRC.

There is competition for Australia here, and every chance they could have
lost. And that is the reason why it has generated so much positive interest.
We would be arrogant and stupid to think otherwise, and although a lot of my
countrymen are, I do not think Australia will stay at top that long.
Remember, we slumped as low as 5th in the world 3 years ago, and we beaten
by Argentina.

Has this ever happened to Australia in RL, 5th?

Quote:
> > I mean honestly??  When will the ARL just accept that there is no way in
> > hell it will ever become a global game.  Even rugby Union has to
struggle
> > against the *** of soccer, but at least there is more than one
team
> > that can win the world cup!!!

and thats the whole point really. The RWC is all about the country that
lasts the competition, defeats the opposition and wins the trophy. The RLWC
is all about money and television. Sure there is money in the RWC as well
but not a filth and scum ridden as the RLWC.

Quote:
> well..its probably 2 teams that have a real chance,but is that,that much
> worse than 3?

and which 3 would that be? I count 6 that could have done it. Sure there is
some 'what ifs' but Argentina were very unlucky not to be there, and they
know how to beat Australia.

Quote:
> How about you open your mind a little and enjoy both the codes.You might
> learn something.

If only you guys would let us. I have lost count of the times when I was
growing up as having been trashed because I played that 'other' game by the
League thugs in my sociosphere. So, no, get ***ed, hope your game dies its
miserable death :-)

I was kidding, I actually don't mind a good game of league, but its getting
harder to find, and people like Ray Warren and the Courier Mail don't help
things. It looks like a dead horse being flogged for the last few bucks they
can get out of it. Oh, and thats before I mention South Sydney, or the new
improved 14 team comp that 8 go through to the final.

Ian

 
 
 

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Post by Craig Murra » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Get lost idiot.

Yes Australia will win it. That is the only certainty. Teams like Wales,
PNG, England, Ireland, Samoa, France and Tonga are teams who will provide
entertaining rugby.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Why did you attempt to send this to a union
ng. Is it because all the idiots there wanted something to laugh at? Well
laugh at the state of your own game, imbeciles.

Craig Murray
aka
Moaner
icq# 2626201

Quote:
> Is this the biggest farce the ARL possibly contrive?????

> It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
> game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
> international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

> Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit about the
> game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it is
> much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close
matches
> than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday night!
> But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of the
> Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).  Maybe
> Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they
only
> need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!

> The only other viable competetion is going to be in the form of a broken
up
> Great Britain.  Thats right, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England will all
> be playing for national pride (scoff scoff) before an Australian
> Demolition!!!!  Maybe it will be more enjoyable if these sides can somehow
> draft some Australians with Welsh or Irish heritage to make the game more
> convincing...  of course they wouldn't have much more of a future in the
> international game afterwards.

> And everyone better beware of the superpowers in pool 3 where the great
> quality of matches coming up are going to involve the following league
super
> powers:

> France
> Tonga
> PNG
> South Africa  (I am suprised they stooped so low!!!!)

> One of these teams had better be wary when they have to take on Russia in
> the Semi Finals!!!!!

> I mean honestly??  When will the ARL just accept that there is no way in
> hell it will ever become a global game.  Even rugby Union has to struggle
> against the *** of soccer, but at least there is more than one team
> that can win the world cup!!!

 
 
 

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Post by Daryn Reed » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

The inclusion of a NZ Maori team and discussion of Aus Aboriginal team is a
disgrace.   To separate people on ethnic lines isnt a positive way to go.

If you want more teams include Queensland and NSW, or make Australia and NZ
play on one leg, but dont get into teams of racial nature.

It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a

Quote:
>> game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
>> international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

>> Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit about
the
>> game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it is
>> much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close
>matches
>> than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday
night!
>> But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of the
>> Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).
Maybe
>> Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they
>only
>> need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!

 
 
 

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Post by Philip Kell » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

But all we hear over here is how the Maori's and Aboriginies are fighting to
stay as independent groups and don't want to be swallowed up by the
mainstream of Australian and NZ society.

Surely having the two individual teams helps promote their own individuality
and identity, which is what the groups themselves are fighting for.

Prehaps you are being racist in the fact that you can't see that these two
groups exist within society?

Quote:

>The inclusion of a NZ Maori team and discussion of Aus Aboriginal team is a
>disgrace.   To separate people on ethnic lines isnt a positive way to go.

>If you want more teams include Queensland and NSW, or make Australia and NZ
>play on one leg, but dont get into teams of racial nature.

>It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
>>> game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
>>> international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

>>> Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit about
>the
>>> game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it is
>>> much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close
>>matches
>>> than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday
>night!
>>> But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of
the
>>> Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).
>Maybe
>>> Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they
>>only
>>> need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!

 
 
 

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Post by Jon Chapma » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00


<snip>

Quote:
> > It was a farce,but so was the 76-0 we saw 2 years ago vs a so called
> "World
> > Rugby power"

> Yes, that was a farce. You would struggle to find argument from me on that
> count, but the only person I know who has tried to argue otherwise is
um....
> I'll bite my lip :-)

Who's that then? Hope you're not refering to me, since this very day I
deemed it such. What I've argued with you is the ludicrously
one-dimentional, chippy attitude that considers it basically a ***; a
personal insult; a....

Quote:
>and many of us consider it an act of
> betrayal from the poms.

Yep, that kind of bollocks. I ask you again - if it was so contrived so as
to damage poor old Australia, who do you think were the ultimate victims of
it?

Quote:

> Well, its a point of argument isn't it. I think the point trying to be
made
> here is it goes like this. Hands up who has Wales parentage? Okay over
> there. Okay, now Scottish, good put these jerseys on. Irish, hmmm.... you
> look Irish what's your name? Goldstein? yep, that sounds Irish to me, over
> there with the Guiseppe brothers.

> At least the home nations in Rugby play together quite quite often in a
> regular tourney. I consider them Rugby nations, and don't ask me about the
> Lions :-)

I see. So you object to the contrived subdivision of the British into
England, Scotland etc. when it comes to biff n' bash but object to their
combination (albeit with the addition of The Repuclic of Ireland) when it
comes to the Lions?

<snip>

Quote:
> Nothing better then beating the poms. But there were some tough encounters
> there.

> > Is that really a true contest in modern times?

> I haven't regarded them as a threat as long as I can remember, hmm...

except

The Centenary test won by an Australian try that never in a million years
was, the Cash, sorry Cook Cup in '98 won by a point and whilst we're at it,
Australia have lost just two World Cup matches in the last three
tournaments - the Boks and...err..who was the other one?

JC

 
 
 

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Post by Steve Boye » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Chris,

You're missing the point friend.  It's not the winning, it's the taking part
that matters.

Regards

A. Whingeing-Pom

Quote:

> Is this the biggest farce the ARL possibly contrive?????

> It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
> game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
> international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

> Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit about the
> game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it is
> much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close matches
> than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday night!
> But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of the
> Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).  Maybe
> Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they only
> need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!

> The only other viable competetion is going to be in the form of a broken up
> Great Britain.  Thats right, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England will all
> be playing for national pride (scoff scoff) before an Australian
> Demolition!!!!  Maybe it will be more enjoyable if these sides can somehow
> draft some Australians with Welsh or Irish heritage to make the game more
> convincing...  of course they wouldn't have much more of a future in the
> international game afterwards.

> And everyone better beware of the superpowers in pool 3 where the great
> quality of matches coming up are going to involve the following league super
> powers:

> France
> Tonga
> PNG
> South Africa  (I am suprised they stooped so low!!!!)

> One of these teams had better be wary when they have to take on Russia in
> the Semi Finals!!!!!

> I mean honestly??  When will the ARL just accept that there is no way in
> hell it will ever become a global game.  Even rugby Union has to struggle
> against the *** of soccer, but at least there is more than one team
> that can win the world cup!!!

 
 
 

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Post by Philip Kell » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>Read our lips. WORLD CUP!! For *NATIONS*!! Like it or not, the Maori are
NOT a
>seperate nation. So how is he racist?

Where does it say that the World Cup is for Nations.  Are we working off a
tradition thing here or have I not read the definition in the Global
Sporting Dictionary.  Is there not the possibility that Rugby League are
actually being a bit far sighted in the idea of letting the Maori and
Aboriginal side in, and not leaving the world Cup solely to National teams.

I wasn't calling him racist - I was just trying to work out what the problem
was with having the three teams and posing the question back and to be
honest I can't see what the problem is, apart from the fact that they might
not be as strong as other teams?  But does that exclude them from the
competition?  In my opinion it doesn't.

Lets be honest - to get a decent number of clubs (although not necessarily a
decent standard) we need to get everyone who is playing the game to enter,
and if that means Maori and Aboriginal teams entered then fair enough.

Why discriminate on ethnic lines?

Quote:


>> But all we hear over here is how the Maori's and Aboriginies are fighting
to
>> stay as independent groups and don't want to be swallowed up by the
>> mainstream of Australian and NZ society.

>> Surely having the two individual teams helps promote their own
individuality
>> and identity, which is what the groups themselves are fighting for.

>> Prehaps you are being racist in the fact that you can't see that these
two
>> groups exist within society?

>Read our lips. WORLD CUP!! For *NATIONS*!! Like it or not, the Maori are
NOT a
>seperate nation. So how is he racist?

>Pathetic.


>> >The inclusion of a NZ Maori team and discussion of Aus Aboriginal team
is a
>> >disgrace.   To separate people on ethnic lines isnt a positive way to
go.

>> >If you want more teams include Queensland and NSW, or make Australia and
NZ
>> >play on one leg, but dont get into teams of racial nature.

>> >It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
>> >>> game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
>> >>> international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

>> >>> Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit
about
>> >the
>> >>> game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it
is
>> >>> much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close
>> >>matches
>> >>> than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday
>> >night!
>> >>> But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of
>> the
>> >>> Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).
>> >Maybe
>> >>> Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix.....
they
>> >>only
>> >>> need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!

 
 
 

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Post by Mugwum » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Get lost idiot.

> Yes Australia will win it. That is the only certainty. Teams like Wales,
> PNG, England, Ireland, Samoa, France and Tonga are teams who will provide
> entertaining rugby.

> Good riddance to bad rubbish. Why did you attempt to send this to a union
> ng. Is it because all the idiots there wanted something to laugh at? Well
> laugh at the state of your own game, imbeciles.

Awww don't be such a Moaner :-)

He does have a valid point that the competition is a joke.

My old buddy Mike McClennan was spot on when he said that the
RFL was considering fielding a team from the lost continent of
Atlantis :-)

--Mugwump.

Quote:
> Craig Murray
> aka
> Moaner

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Post by Vince Morga » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
> Is this the biggest farce the ARL possibly contrive?????

Well I'm not too sure but whatever their efforts or lack of them you do seem
to be very annoyed about the whole thing.

If you find it so farcical or in some other way deserving of humour then try
to come up with something humourous to say instead of the insulting drivel
you came up with.

In fact most of your points - Maori team, home nations sides,
who-the-***-is-going-to-beat Oz etc etc ... have been discussed in RL
circles and provoke serious argument -  I'm on the 'bring the aboriginies in
too, the more merrier'  wing of the debate and think the 'home nations'
 fnar, fnar ) will actually provide us with some good games, especially with
the Oceania sides.

There is actually lots to discuss but you seem to be the sad sort of person
who likes to troll both newsgroups spouting ***and hoping someone notices
you.

My god, just had a thought ..... you're not actually Stephen Jones of the
Sunday Times in disguise are you ???

Anyway if you think its a farce then don't worry about it.... try and forget
it and please stop making an arse of yourself its a trifle embarassing to
witness.

Vince

 
 
 

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Post by Bobs » Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Yes, this maori team is a racist idea and it sets up a dangerous precedent. What
next? A european only team? Totally dodgy stuff and I hope that the two NZ teams
don't play each other. It just goes to show how stoopid the people behind NZ
league are.
Quote:

> Is this the biggest farce the ARL possibly contrive?????

> It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
> game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
> international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

> Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit about the
> game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it is
> much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close matches
> than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday night!
> But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of the
> Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).  Maybe
> Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they only
> need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!

> The only other viable competetion is going to be in the form of a broken up
> Great Britain.  Thats right, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England will all
> be playing for national pride (scoff scoff) before an Australian
> Demolition!!!!  Maybe it will be more enjoyable if these sides can somehow
> draft some Australians with Welsh or Irish heritage to make the game more
> convincing...  of course they wouldn't have much more of a future in the
> international game afterwards.

> And everyone better beware of the superpowers in pool 3 where the great
> quality of matches coming up are going to involve the following league super
> powers:

> France
> Tonga
> PNG
> South Africa  (I am suprised they stooped so low!!!!)

> One of these teams had better be wary when they have to take on Russia in
> the Semi Finals!!!!!

> I mean honestly??  When will the ARL just accept that there is no way in
> hell it will ever become a global game.  Even rugby Union has to struggle
> against the *** of soccer, but at least there is more than one team
> that can win the world cup!!!

 
 
 

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Post by Bobs » Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quote:



> > Is this the biggest farce the ARL possibly contrive?????

> As I regard myself as a supporter of both codes....and...........no.....

> Many people around soccer and basketball would regard the Rugby Union "world
> cup"as a farce as well.

Basketball?!?! LMAO!! The US could thrash any team if they bothered putting a
full strength team in.
 
 
 

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Post by Bobs » Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> But all we hear over here is how the Maori's and Aboriginies are fighting to
> stay as independent groups and don't want to be swallowed up by the
> mainstream of Australian and NZ society.

> Surely having the two individual teams helps promote their own individuality
> and identity, which is what the groups themselves are fighting for.

> Prehaps you are being racist in the fact that you can't see that these two
> groups exist within society?

Read our lips. WORLD CUP!! For *NATIONS*!! Like it or not, the Maori are NOT a
seperate nation. So how is he racist?

Pathetic.

Quote:


> >The inclusion of a NZ Maori team and discussion of Aus Aboriginal team is a
> >disgrace.   To separate people on ethnic lines isnt a positive way to go.

> >If you want more teams include Queensland and NSW, or make Australia and NZ
> >play on one leg, but dont get into teams of racial nature.

> >It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
> >>> game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
> >>> international game.  I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???

> >>> Most New Zealanders  (from what I can gather)  don't give a shit about
> >the
> >>> game, and they are the only real competition!!  It strikes me that it is
> >>> much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close
> >>matches
> >>> than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday
> >night!
> >>> But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of
> the
> >>> Maori team  (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).
> >Maybe
> >>> Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they
> >>only
> >>> need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!