> > Is this the biggest farce the ARL possibly contrive?????
> As I regard myself as a supporter of both codes....and...........no.....
> Many people around soccer and basketball would regard the Rugby Union
> cup"as a farce as well.
Yes, but there were a sizeable number of nations participating in the
competition (or didn't through lack of qualification) that were interested
> > It seems to all be an attempt by the Australian Rugby League to market a
> > game which has no international following outside of Australia as an
> > international game. I mean what kind of ***is this!!!!!???
> In fact the Australian Rugby League has done little to promote the
> international game in recent years.The British are more likely to promote
> the international game.
I think in part the NRL is ashamed of the situation, and the gap between it
and the rest of the Rugby League world (England NZ)
> > Most New Zealanders (from what I can gather) don't give a shit about
> > game, and they are the only real competition!! It strikes me that it is
> > much more enjoyable to see the Wallabie beat the All Blacks in close
> > than watching a farce of a match of the likes displayed last Friday
> It was a farce,but so was the 76-0 we saw 2 years ago vs a so called
> Rugby power"
Yes, that was a farce. You would struggle to find argument from me on that
count, but the only person I know who has tried to argue otherwise is um....
I'll bite my lip :-) However, at least we knew before they got here what
the outcome would undoubtly be, and many of us consider it an act of
betrayal from the poms. It upsets me, but I don't lay awake night thinking
about it, like a certain food poisoning incident :-t~
> > But NZ will get a double chance at the World Cup with the addition of
> > Maori team (I'm waiting for them to declare their own government).
> > Aus should put their own little Aboriginal team into the mix..... they
> > need the one man team Anthony Mundine!!!!!
No can do, he's gone walkabout. Won't be back until he makes cover of TV
> The Maori team for the Rugby League World Cup is a joke.
> > The only other viable competetion is going to be in the form of a broken
> > Great Britain. Thats right, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England will
> > be playing for national pride (scoff scoff) before an Australian
> "scoff scoff" at the Rugby Union break down of the British Isles.
Well, its a point of argument isn't it. I think the point trying to be made
here is it goes like this. Hands up who has Wales parentage? Okay over
there. Okay, now Scottish, good put these jerseys on. Irish, hmmm.... you
look Irish what's your name? Goldstein? yep, that sounds Irish to me, over
there with the Guiseppe brothers.
At least the home nations in Rugby play together quite quite often in a
regular tourney. I consider them Rugby nations, and don't ask me about the
> Do you want to know what the Rugby home nations record vs Australia is
> Australians got serious about Rugby during the Grand Slam tour of 1984?
I know our record against the All Blacks and South Africa and its not that
> Australian Wallabies vs (England,Scotland,Wales,Ireland) since 1984
> Loss: 3
Nothing better then beating the poms. But there were some tough encounters
> Is that really a true contest in modern times?
I haven't regarded them as a threat as long as I can remember, hmm... except
when the drew a couple of years ago. I admit they are slowly getting better,
but we are getting better too. The 76-0 pasting is a never to be repeated
feat of clubs vs unions that has bee firmly taken care of (apparently?)
> This is no different to the British Rugby League record vs Australia
> the same period and in fact,its probably better than their Rugby
Up until recent years I enjoyed watching these games. Now, I am not so sure
after the Tri-series last year. looked more like a tryhard-series.
> > Demolition!!!! Maybe it will be more enjoyable if these sides can
> > draft some Australians with Welsh or Irish heritage to make the game
> > convincing... of course they wouldn't have much more of a future in the
> > international game afterwards.
> Sounds like the Welsh team
Undoubtly, but while the IRB have taken harsh measures to stop this from
happening again, RL seems to be encouraging it.
> > And everyone better beware of the superpowers in pool 3 where the great
> > quality of matches coming up are going to involve the following league
> > powers:
> > France
> > Tonga
> > PNG
> > South Africa (I am suprised they stooped so low!!!!)
PNG actually could be the surprise package.
> If PNG played Rugby Union with the same enthousiasm as they do with Rugby
> League,they would regually defeat the home nation teams.
Don't think so, they look good in the 7s, but they lack the commitment and
leadership required to maintain composure in the fast paced game of RU.
Remember, no interchange kiddies!
> > One of these teams had better be wary when they have to take on Russia
> > the Semi Finals!!!!!
Scarey, on many fronts.
> Go have a look at all your called superpowers that played last year in
Argentina, France, South Africa, New Zealand and England for my mind all had
good chances of making the semis. England has played in the final once, and
France twice. It has only been a SH Vs SH final once, back in 95 IIRC.
There is competition for Australia here, and every chance they could have
lost. And that is the reason why it has generated so much positive interest.
We would be arrogant and stupid to think otherwise, and although a lot of my
countrymen are, I do not think Australia will stay at top that long.
Remember, we slumped as low as 5th in the world 3 years ago, and we beaten
Has this ever happened to Australia in RL, 5th?
> > I mean honestly?? When will the ARL just accept that there is no way in
> > hell it will ever become a global game. Even rugby Union has to
> > against the *** of soccer, but at least there is more than one
> > that can win the world cup!!!
and thats the whole point really. The RWC is all about the country that
lasts the competition, defeats the opposition and wins the trophy. The RLWC
is all about money and television. Sure there is money in the RWC as well
but not a filth and scum ridden as the RLWC.
> well..its probably 2 teams that have a real chance,but is that,that much
> worse than 3?
and which 3 would that be? I count 6 that could have done it. Sure there is
some 'what ifs' but Argentina were very unlucky not to be there, and they
know how to beat Australia.
> How about you open your mind a little and enjoy both the codes.You might
> learn something.
If only you guys would let us. I have lost count of the times when I was
growing up as having been trashed because I played that 'other' game by the
League thugs in my sociosphere. So, no, get ***ed, hope your game dies its
miserable death :-)
I was kidding, I actually don't mind a good game of league, but its getting
harder to find, and people like Ray Warren and the Courier Mail don't help
things. It looks like a dead horse being flogged for the last few bucks they
can get out of it. Oh, and thats before I mention South Sydney, or the new
improved 14 team comp that 8 go through to the final.