Irish team and 'A' team

Irish team and 'A' team

Post by John Da » Mon, 24 Feb 1997 04:00:00


Ireland  side to play Scotland:
----------------------------------------------
15. Staples
14. Hickie
13. Field
12. McQuilkin
11. Bell
10. Humphreys
9.   O'Mara
1.   Popplewell
2.   Nesdale
3.   Wallace
4.   Johns
5.   Davidson
6.   Corkery
7.   McBride
8.   Cronin

Subs:
McIvor
Burke
O'Shea
Walsh
Fulcher
Clarke

I ddn't think that the selectors had the guts to do this, but well
done!
 Thy could have just put O'Shea on the wing, and left the rest of the
back line as they finished against England. However, this is much
better. McQuilkin has been the form centre this year and was
outstanding in the 'A' match against England last week. Bell has
plenty of wing experience and will be able to plug the yawning gaps
which have existed on that flank all season.

Humphreys and O'Mara was predictable and, given a decent supply of
ball, the backline will have a bit more spark than heretofore. O'Mara
provides a wonderful service, but I am still concerned about his
decision making and tactical kicking. I hope he does well and doesn't
become the new Rob Saunders.

Cronin is a better selection than Foley, particularly for this game.
He offers another lineout option and is quicker about the pitch -
important against the Scots.

The musical chairs continues on the reserve prop front, with Walsh
being brought in this time. That makes Hurley, Halpin, Flavin and
Walsh this season. Maybe the idea is to give each of them an 'A'
match. See below.

My BIG worry about this side is the goalkicking. We would be
*guaranteed* a better return with Burke in the side. I hope we don't
pay the price.

'A' Team
--------------  
15. Clarke
14. Crotty
13. Carey
12. ***
11. Woods
10. Keane
9.   Hogan
1.   Flavin
2.   McDermott
3.   McKeen
4.   Galwey
5.   Cusack
6.   Halvey
7.   Dawson
8.   Foley

Subs:
Wallace
Walsh
Easterby
Leahy
Byrne
Hurley

Good to see Keane back in his best position. Shane Byrne drops from
the senior bench directly to the 'A' bench.
When will somebody realise than Halvey is not a no. 6?

Cheers,

John Daly

 
 
 

Irish team and 'A' team

Post by John Carte » Mon, 24 Feb 1997 04:00:00

When someone realizes McBride is not an international No. 7

 
 
 

Irish team and 'A' team

Post by Kevin Kell » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> Ireland  side to play Scotland:
> ----------------------------------------------
> 15. Staples
> 14. Hickie
> 13. Field
> 12. McQuilkin
> 11. Bell
> 10. Humphreys
> 9.   O'Mara
> 1.   Popplewell
> 2.   Nesdale
> 3.   Wallace
> 4.   Johns
> 5.   Davidson
> 6.   Corkery
> 7.   McBride
> 8.   Cronin

> Subs:
> McIvor
> Burke
> O'Shea
> Walsh
> Fulcher
> Clarke

> I ddn't think that the selectors had the guts to do this, but well
> done!
>  Thy could have just put O'Shea on the wing, and left the rest of the
> back line as they finished against England. However, this is much
> better. McQuilkin has been the form centre this year and was
> outstanding in the 'A' match against England last week. Bell has
> plenty of wing experience and will be able to plug the yawning gaps
> which have existed on that flank all season.

Agree 90%. You know I have reservations about Staples defence. In fact I
think his tackling is crap, especially covering tackles. His captaincy
against Engerland was also dismal. Knowledgeable Ned agrees on these
points too !

Quote:
> Humphreys and O'Mara was predictable and, given a decent supply of
> ball, the backline will have a bit more spark than heretofore. O'Mara
> provides a wonderful service, but I am still concerned about his
> decision making and tactical kicking. I hope he does well and doesn't
> become the new Rob Saunders.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone ;-). To be fair O'Meara probably deserves
his chance. Am I being too cynical to say that he would have had to wait
longer if he didn't play for Con ? Humphreys is a very risky choice
against a team like Scotland. Scotland thrive more on mayhem than
Ireland are supposed to do. This is a game where steadiness and control
are 95% of the job for outhalf. I hope Humphreys can deliver, but I'm
not holding my breath.

Quote:

> Cronin is a better selection than Foley, particularly for this game.
> He offers another lineout option and is quicker about the pitch -
> important against the Scots.

Hmm. Cronin is a classy player, but Foley is both quicker and harder
working around the pitch. I would have picked Foley.

Quote:
> The musical chairs continues on the reserve prop front, with Walsh
> being brought in this time. That makes Hurley, Halpin, Flavin and
> Walsh this season. Maybe the idea is to give each of them an 'A'
> match. See below.

I think they probably forget who was on the bench after each game ;-)

Quote:
> My BIG worry about this side is the goalkicking. We would be
> *guaranteed* a better return with Burke in the side. I hope we don't
> pay the price.

Very true.

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> 'A' Team
> --------------
> 15. Clarke
> 14. Crotty
> 13. Carey
> 12. ***
> 11. Woods
> 10. Keane
> 9.   Hogan
> 1.   Flavin
> 2.   McDermott
> 3.   McKeen
> 4.   Galwey
> 5.   Cusack
> 6.   Halvey
> 7.   Dawson
> 8.   Foley

> Subs:
> Wallace
> Walsh
> Easterby
> Leahy
> Byrne
> Hurley

> Good to see Keane back in his best position. Shane Byrne drops from
> the senior bench directly to the 'A' bench.
> When will somebody realise than Halvey is not a no. 6?

About the same time that they realise that Crotty is not a winger. To be
fair Dawson is a good player. I would like to see them as left and right
rather than open and blind. Agianst Scotland they wont need that extra
bulk.

Great to see Ciaran Clarke back in the frame. He has been outstanding
this season. In fact he has been the best Irish fullback by a stretch
this season and anybody who goes to see Terenure play will know this.
And Australia play boring rugby. And England are crap. And I spotted Rob
Howley first. And there is a new dawn in Welsh rugby. And I'm going to
take my dog for a walk. And... oh hello nurse..

 
 
 

Irish team and 'A' team

Post by Kevin Kell » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> When someone realizes McBride is not an international No. 7

Why not ? He is no world beater, but he has at many(but not all) stages,
been our best available option.
 
 
 

Irish team and 'A' team

Post by Ken Seat » Wed, 26 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


>> When someone realizes McBride is not an international No. 7
>Why not ? He is no world beater, but he has at many(but not all) stages,
>been our best available option.

Quite right, Dennis has never let Ireland down... how many of his
teammates can say that?

Ken Seaton
Lenzie RFC

 
 
 

Irish team and 'A' team

Post by John Da » Wed, 26 Feb 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
>Agree 90%. You know I have reservations about Staples defence. In fact I
>think his tackling is crap, especially covering tackles. His captaincy
>against Engerland was also dismal. Knowledgeable Ned agrees on these
>points too !

What had Ned to say about this? Must have missed it. Anyway, we'll
have to agree to disagree. He was badly hampered by his injury in the
2nd half against England, so not fair to judge him on that. I don't
think he could have been faulted for the 2nd Evans try against Wales.
From what I've seen on SKY this year, his defence has been excelent.

What real difference could he have made as a captain against England?
OTOH, he sdid make a difference against Wales.

Cheers,

John Daly.

 
 
 

Irish team and 'A' team

Post by Kevin Kell » Thu, 27 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> What real difference could he have made as a captain against England?
> OTOH, he sdid make a difference against Wales.

Not running the ball from defence with no support at the end of the
game, for starters. I just can't picture Staples motivating a team
properly.
The episode versus Scotland last year, vis playing into the wind is
another example.
As regards the Wales match, I'm not sure what difference you're
referring to.

As regards Staples defence, we'll agree to disagree. He is certainly not
in the Topping/Wallace/Mason mode. Individual lapses I can forgive, and
as you say it would be harsh to criticise him for Evans try. It is just
that there are too many incidences of this type for me.

KK

 
 
 

Irish team and 'A' team

Post by Gar » Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:00:00


Quote:



>>> When someone realizes McBride is not an international No. 7

>>Why not ? He is no world beater, but he has at many(but not all) stages,
>>been our best available option.

>Quite right, Dennis has never let Ireland down... how many of his
>teammates can say that?

 Indeed,  I think Dennis' major short coming is his lack of  physical
presence when compared to many other Iinternational No 7's and lets
face it that's not really his fault. In all other respects he is a
fine player and  he is certainly capable of playing against anyone in
the world.

His commitment is unquestionable - the try he scored in the last world
cup sums him up perfectly - he never gives up.

Gary

Non Toleranda Recta