Help! Any scores on tonight's S12 pre-season games?

Help! Any scores on tonight's S12 pre-season games?

Post by Mike Irelan » Fri, 07 Feb 2003 16:32:07


Can anyone in the SH help me by posting the scores (and a bit of how the
game went) in tonight's S12 pre-season game(s). We get absolutely
nothing of the pre-season up in beautiful B.C., Canada, so I would
dearly like to have a bit of info. on how they went. (If there is a site
that broadcasts the games, I would like to know the Web address.) I know
that there is at least one Thursday game (and several Friday games). I
want to have some data with which to make my first week's tips, so any
help would be appreciated. Wish I could see these games live, but I
can't get down to the SH until after I retire (which may be soon ;-)

Mike

 
 
 

Help! Any scores on tonight's S12 pre-season games?

Post by Pas1 » Fri, 07 Feb 2003 17:18:00

Well, the Waratahs beat the Chiefs (approx 34-24) in a lovely surrounding of
a park here in Tauranga tonight. In around 24deg C heat for a night 6pm
game, it was played with a lot of running and enthusiasm, which left the
guys bending over at times during the game. Played in 20min qtrs, the game
had a heap of highlights, notably Roger Randell and his speed to outclass a
lot of the Waratahs backline, the left wing, Shane Austin getting 2 tries
with a fine show of chip and regather to score. For the Waratahs, Matt
Rogers showed what a class player he is, and made regualr incisions through
the Chiefs backline in midfield. (often)Big Paul Miller at No.8 for Chiefs
had a strong game, looking to push for a spot back in the AB's again.
Blacklock came on late in 4th qtr and scored to put match beyond doubt,
showing a fine turn of speed for Waratahs, classy player, sad loss for
league!!! haha. Thats about all. Nice night to watch a great game in a
lovely setting of a Speedway park.
Cheers
Brendon


Quote:
> Can anyone in the SH help me by posting the scores (and a bit of how the
> game went) in tonight's S12 pre-season game(s). We get absolutely
> nothing of the pre-season up in beautiful B.C., Canada, so I would
> dearly like to have a bit of info. on how they went. (If there is a site
> that broadcasts the games, I would like to know the Web address.) I know
> that there is at least one Thursday game (and several Friday games). I
> want to have some data with which to make my first week's tips, so any
> help would be appreciated. Wish I could see these games live, but I
> can't get down to the SH until after I retire (which may be soon ;-)

> Mike


 
 
 

Help! Any scores on tonight's S12 pre-season games?

Post by Mike Irelan » Fri, 07 Feb 2003 17:41:11

Thanks, Brendon, it sounds as if it was a good game to watch. I've
always been impressed by the imposing presence of Paul Miller at #8, and
  if he ever gets in great shape (not sure if he ever will, though) and
has the right coaching, he could be the dynamic #8 that the All Blacks
have been missing since Zinzan retired. I wouldn't bet on it, but he
sure has a decent back row at the Chiefs to complement him--Marty Holah
and Jono Gibbes.

Mike

Quote:

> Well, the Waratahs beat the Chiefs (approx 34-24) in a lovely surrounding of
> a park here in Tauranga tonight. In around 24deg C heat for a night 6pm
> game, it was played with a lot of running and enthusiasm, which left the
> guys bending over at times during the game. Played in 20min qtrs, the game
> had a heap of highlights, notably Roger Randell and his speed to outclass a
> lot of the Waratahs backline, the left wing, Shane Austin getting 2 tries
> with a fine show of chip and regather to score. For the Waratahs, Matt
> Rogers showed what a class player he is, and made regualr incisions through
> the Chiefs backline in midfield. (often)Big Paul Miller at No.8 for Chiefs
> had a strong game, looking to push for a spot back in the AB's again.
> Blacklock came on late in 4th qtr and scored to put match beyond doubt,
> showing a fine turn of speed for Waratahs, classy player, sad loss for
> league!!! haha. Thats about all. Nice night to watch a great game in a
> lovely setting of a Speedway park.
> Cheers
> Brendon



>>Can anyone in the SH help me by posting the scores (and a bit of how the
>>game went) in tonight's S12 pre-season game(s). We get absolutely
>>nothing of the pre-season up in beautiful B.C., Canada, so I would
>>dearly like to have a bit of info. on how they went. (If there is a site
>>that broadcasts the games, I would like to know the Web address.) I know
>>that there is at least one Thursday game (and several Friday games). I
>>want to have some data with which to make my first week's tips, so any
>>help would be appreciated. Wish I could see these games live, but I
>>can't get down to the SH until after I retire (which may be soon ;-)

>>Mike


 
 
 

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Post by Pas1 » Fri, 07 Feb 2003 17:58:29

Yeh Mike, he is a big unit. A real imposing presence we hav'nt had since
Buck days of old. I funnily enough, have had the honour of playing with him
a few years ago when he was a puppy fat kid for Southland, he was 8 and I
was blindside. I will tell you things have changed and he is now lost all
that, and is in mean condition, was here a few weeks ago and is all muscle
now, still round the 120kg mark, but all good stuff. Will be a good trio,
Holah, which I missed, had a great game tonight also, though his opposition,
(not sure of name, didnt have a program) had a great game also, huge
tackles, and loads of yardage.
Cheers
Brendon in sunny Mount Maunganui, Bay of Plenty


Quote:
> Thanks, Brendon, it sounds as if it was a good game to watch. I've
> always been impressed by the imposing presence of Paul Miller at #8, and
>   if he ever gets in great shape (not sure if he ever will, though) and
> has the right coaching, he could be the dynamic #8 that the All Blacks
> have been missing since Zinzan retired. I wouldn't bet on it, but he
> sure has a decent back row at the Chiefs to complement him--Marty Holah
> and Jono Gibbes.

> Mike


> > Well, the Waratahs beat the Chiefs (approx 34-24) in a lovely
surrounding of
> > a park here in Tauranga tonight. In around 24deg C heat for a night 6pm
> > game, it was played with a lot of running and enthusiasm, which left the
> > guys bending over at times during the game. Played in 20min qtrs, the
game
> > had a heap of highlights, notably Roger Randell and his speed to
outclass a
> > lot of the Waratahs backline, the left wing, Shane Austin getting 2
tries
> > with a fine show of chip and regather to score. For the Waratahs, Matt
> > Rogers showed what a class player he is, and made regualr incisions
through
> > the Chiefs backline in midfield. (often)Big Paul Miller at No.8 for
Chiefs
> > had a strong game, looking to push for a spot back in the AB's again.
> > Blacklock came on late in 4th qtr and scored to put match beyond doubt,
> > showing a fine turn of speed for Waratahs, classy player, sad loss for
> > league!!! haha. Thats about all. Nice night to watch a great game in a
> > lovely setting of a Speedway park.
> > Cheers
> > Brendon



> >>Can anyone in the SH help me by posting the scores (and a bit of how the
> >>game went) in tonight's S12 pre-season game(s). We get absolutely
> >>nothing of the pre-season up in beautiful B.C., Canada, so I would
> >>dearly like to have a bit of info. on how they went. (If there is a site
> >>that broadcasts the games, I would like to know the Web address.) I know
> >>that there is at least one Thursday game (and several Friday games). I
> >>want to have some data with which to make my first week's tips, so any
> >>help would be appreciated. Wish I could see these games live, but I
> >>can't get down to the SH until after I retire (which may be soon ;-)

> >>Mike

 
 
 

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Post by Mike Irelan » Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:12:13

  though his opposition,

Quote:
> (not sure of name, didnt have a program) had a great game also, huge
> tackles, and loads of yardage.
> Cheers
> Brendon in sunny Mount Maunganui, Bay of Plenty

Probably David Lyons, who is the heir apparent to Toutai Kefu at #8 for
Aus. Lyons is a real load, too. The Tah's have a very good back row
(Phil Waugh is impressive) and super backs, but I think that their front
row is their weakest area. If they can improve on their tight five, I
think they will be contenders for the S12 crown this year (if, of
course, they can rid themselves mentally of the horror of the Crusaders'
demolition of them at the end of the regular season in 2002).

Mike

 
 
 

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Post by H& » Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:13:39


Quote:
> Blacklock came on late in 4th qtr and scored to put match beyond doubt,
> showing a fine turn of speed for Waratahs, classy player, sad loss for
> league!!! haha.

No doubt a very good player but the way he was playing before he switched
combined with the depth in Aussie league, a loss definitely but not a real
sad one.  Tuquiri and Sailor were light years ahead as league wingers.
 
 
 

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Post by Murra » Fri, 07 Feb 2003 19:46:47

<snip match report>

How did Lote Tuqiri look?

 
 
 

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Post by Myk Camero » Fri, 07 Feb 2003 20:05:00



Quote:
>Well, the Waratahs beat the Chiefs (approx 34-24) in a lovely surrounding of
>a park here in Tauranga tonight. In around 24deg C heat for a night 6pm
>game, it was played with a lot of running and enthusiasm, which left the
>guys bending over at times during the game. Played in 20min qtrs, the game
>had a heap of highlights, notably Roger Randell and his speed to outclass a
>lot of the Waratahs backline, the left wing, Shane Austin getting 2 tries
>with a fine show of chip and regather to score. For the Waratahs, Matt
>Rogers showed what a class player he is, and made regualr incisions through
>the Chiefs backline in midfield. (often)Big Paul Miller at No.8 for Chiefs
>had a strong game, looking to push for a spot back in the AB's again.
>Blacklock came on late in 4th qtr and scored to put match beyond doubt,
>showing a fine turn of speed for Waratahs, classy player, sad loss for
>league!!! haha. Thats about all. Nice night to watch a great game in a
>lovely setting of a Speedway park.
>Cheers
>Brendon

Final score was 34-31. Two tries in the last few minutes, first to NSW
then to the Chiefs. Game wasn't as close as the scoreline indicates.
The Chiefs midefield was in disarray, and Rogers just carved them up.
Mind you, this is just typical of pre-season games, and I'm not so
sure that the Chiefs will be too disconsulate about the loss. From
what I saw (I only arrived for the second half), the game had little
intensity compared to the Super 12 games I attended last season.

Have to agree with Brendon though. The venue is a beaut. I sure hope
BOP will play its home NPC encounters there as opposed to the woeful
Tauranga Domain.

Myk

 
 
 

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Post by God Was A Pro » Fri, 07 Feb 2003 20:24:34

Ugly, and his mother dresses him funny.


Quote:

> <snip match report>

> How did Lote Tuqiri look?

 
 
 

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Post by Alan Luchett » Fri, 07 Feb 2003 21:07:53


Quote:



> > >>Can anyone in the SH help me by posting the scores (and a bit of
how the
> > >>game went) in tonight's S12 pre-season game(s). We get absolutely
> > >>nothing of the pre-season up in beautiful B.C., Canada, so I would
> > >>dearly like to have a bit of info. on how they went. (If there is
a site
> > >>that broadcasts the games, I would like to know the Web address.)
I know
> > >>that there is at least one Thursday game (and several Friday
games). I
> > >>want to have some data with which to make my first week's tips, so
any
> > >>help would be appreciated. Wish I could see these games live, but
I
> > >>can't get down to the SH until after I retire (which may be soon

;-)

Quote:
> > > Well, the Waratahs beat the Chiefs (approx 34-24) in a lovely
> > > surrounding of a park here in Tauranga tonight. In around 24deg C
> > > heat for a night 6pm game, it was played with a lot of running and
> > > enthusiasm, which left the guys bending over at times during the
game.
> > > Played in 20min qtrs, the game had a heap of highlights, notably
> > > Roger Randell and his speed to outclass a lot of the Waratahs
backline,
> > > the left wing, Shane Austin getting 2 tries with a fine show of
chip and
> > > regather to score.

Randle's AB non-selection is one of NZ's biggest mysteries.  Had he been
a
Crusader last year, Ralph would have been a S12 bench warmer.

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> > > For the Waratahs, Matt Rogers showed what a
> > > class player he is, and made regualr incisions through the Chiefs
> > > backline in midfield. (often)  Big Paul Miller at No.8 for Chiefs
> > > had a strong game, looking to push for a spot back in the AB's
again.
> > > Blacklock came on late in 4th qtr and scored to put match beyond
doubt,
> > > showing a fine turn of speed for Waratahs, classy player, sad loss
for
> > > league!!! haha. Thats about all. Nice night to watch a great game
in a
> > > lovely setting of a Speedway park.
> > Thanks, Brendon, it sounds as if it was a good game to watch. I've
> > always been impressed by the imposing presence of Paul Miller at #8,
and
> > if he ever gets in great shape (not sure if he ever will, though)
and
> > has the right coaching, he could be the dynamic #8 that the All
Blacks
> > have been missing since Zinzan retired. I wouldn't bet on it, but he
> > sure has a decent back row at the Chiefs to complement him--Marty
Holah
> > and Jono Gibbes.
> Yeh Mike, he is a big unit. A real imposing presence we hav'nt had
since
> Buck days of old. I funnily enough, have had the honour of playing
with him
> a few years ago when he was a puppy fat kid for Southland, he was 8
and I
> was blindside. I will tell you things have changed and he is now lost
all
> that, and is in mean condition, was here a few weeks ago and is all
muscle
> now, still round the 120kg mark, but all good stuff. Will be a good
trio,
> Holah, which I missed, had a great game tonight also, though his
opposition,
> (not sure of name, didnt have a program) had a great game also, huge
> tackles, and loads of yardage.

Holah's opposite number was NSW vice-captain Phil Waugh whose quality
can also be measured by the NSW pack's nosedive after he was injured
last
season.  McCaw & Smith both have extremely able test deputies.  Then
there's Croft & Vanisi.  I can't recall a time when there were so may
good 7s
in Aus & NZ.
 
 
 

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Post by Paul Kendal » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 01:30:33


Quote:


> >Well, the Waratahs beat the Chiefs (approx 34-24) in a lovely
> >surrounding of a park here in Tauranga tonight.

> Have to agree with Brendon though. The venue is a beaut. I sure hope
> BOP will play its home NPC encounters there as opposed to the woeful
> Tauranga Domain.

Did the organisers get the crowd they were hoping for?  Rotorua
International Stadium is still the best venue in the BOP region, and one
of the best playing surfaces in the country, but the locals didn't
support either the Chiefs or BOP last season so have no reason to
complain.

--
Paul Kendall

 
 
 

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Post by Pas1 » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 04:11:40

Not sure on the actual crowd numbers, I would hazzard to guess it was about
3/5 full, almost all of the stadium apart from the far end where the sun was
on the stand the whole game, (very bright, hot etc). Rotorua may have a lot
of qualities going for it, but have you ever been to a game in September on
a drissling cold miserable sunday and stood on the hill on the far side, or
worse yet, in the stand with that Westerly coming straight in, and then
watch the game turn into a mudbath? The pitch in Southland would have to
rank as one of the 'best' for me, not the park, but the pitch. MInd you,
nothing like some vocal supporters in Southland, only metres away from the
pitch...spurs you on. The key sponsor this year is in Tauranga, so is
playing the trump cards to get the games here, which I guess is his
perogative, due to the $1mil investment.?

Brendon


Quote:



> > >Well, the Waratahs beat the Chiefs (approx 34-24) in a lovely
> > >surrounding of a park here in Tauranga tonight.

> > Have to agree with Brendon though. The venue is a beaut. I sure hope
> > BOP will play its home NPC encounters there as opposed to the woeful
> > Tauranga Domain.

> Did the organisers get the crowd they were hoping for?  Rotorua
> International Stadium is still the best venue in the BOP region, and one
> of the best playing surfaces in the country, but the locals didn't
> support either the Chiefs or BOP last season so have no reason to
> complain.

> --
> Paul Kendall

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Kendal » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 05:56:44


Quote:
> Not sure on the actual crowd numbers, I would hazzard to guess it was
> about 3/5 full, almost all of the stadium apart from the far end where
> the sun was on the stand the whole game, (very bright, hot etc).

I read the Herald review of the match after posting my message and they
state there was nearly 11000 at the game, well in excess of the 7000
they were hoping for.  Good stuff!

Quote:
> Rotorua may have a lot of qualities going for it, but have you ever been
> to a game in September on a drissling cold miserable sunday and stood on
> the hill on the far side,

I can imagine that hill would get very slippery in wet conditions.  
Pukekohe has the same problem.  The only games I've been to at Rotorua
(AB trial and Maori game) were in June/July.  I liked the view from the
hill when I was there, good weather mind you.

Quote:
> The key sponsor this year is in Tauranga, so is playing the trump cards
> to get the games here, which I guess is his perogative, due to the $1mil
> investment.?

Yes, I've read a few online articles on the subject with interest.  It
appears that the in-fighting between Tauranga and Rotorua continues and
that can't have a positive effect on the team, who are struggling to
remain in Div I.  The forming of a new union between the central BOP
sub-union and King Country remains a very real possibility.

--
Paul Kendall

 
 
 

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Post by Greig Blanchet » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 06:13:59

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:24:34 +1300, "God Was A Prop"

Quote:

>Ugly, and his mother dresses him funny.




>> <snip match report>

>> How did Lote Tuqiri look?

Well that was a coffee-out-the-nose moment!

Cheers ...

 
 
 

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Post by rick bo » Sat, 08 Feb 2003 07:19:45

On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 20:46:47 +1000, Murray

Quote:


><snip match report>

>How did Lote Tuqiri look?

Speaking or Lote, I had been pronouncing his name "Loat", and the
commentators on TV were calling him "Lottey", so it was interested to
see an article on Rugby Heaven where is is quoted as saying that his
named contstantly gets mis-pronounced, which he says doesn't bother
him, but it should be pronounced "Lortay".

Yet another proud Australian.

-- rick boyd