England XV - USA XV (Spoilers, for those who give a shit...)

England XV - USA XV (Spoilers, for those who give a shit...)

Post by Kenny MacLeo » Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:00:00


England                54 (21)
USA                      6 (6)

Bit of an odd game, that.  The first 30 minutes were a shambles for England.
The backs were appalling; they kept trying to pull off the same fancy moves
as they did in the last 5N, with the same results - missed passes and
dropped balls.  Luckily for them, the Americans didn't capitalise on these
mistakes, which would have had the AB and Oz back lines through and scoring.

As for the Americans, well in the first 30 minutes, they looked pretty
sharp.  Their tackling was brilliant, and the likes of Llyod and Reese won't
forget those tackles in a hurry.  Some good tight, creative work by the
forwards, although they were of course totally destroyed in the scrum.  As a
result, the poor half backs had no chance.  The first half dozen scrums
must've taken the yanks totally by surprise, since they collapsed every
time.  After the 3rd time this happened on the US line, Bevan ruled a
penalty try, which in my opinion was grossly unfair.  They didn't collapse
it deliberately, they just collapsed under the weight of all the english
vat-grown apes.  Not that it mattered in the final score.

In the second half, though, the English got it together and stepped up the
pace, leaving the poor americans floundering in the wet grass.  Greenwood
was surprisingly good after his long absense, Grayson was competant, and
young Worsley looks like a good back up for Neil Back.

Overall, though, a bit of a demonstration of the huge gap between pro and
amateur.  Should be interesting to watch the full test this Saturday,
though.

kenny

 
 
 

England XV - USA XV (Spoilers, for those who give a shit...)

Post by Ian Diddam » Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> England                54 (21)
> USA                      6 (6)

Was this game billed as England, England "A" or England XV ?

Mather at IC, Greenwood outside?  One of Clive's little experiments I
suppose :-(

I haven't seen a lot of him, but for someone that alllegedly came from
RL his presence and hands seem very poor from what people say....

Didds

 
 
 

England XV - USA XV (Spoilers, for those who give a shit...)

Post by Kenny MacLeo » Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> > England                54 (21)
> > USA                      6 (6)

> Was this game billed as England, England "A" or England XV ?

I think it was England XV vs USA XV, which is pretty much as vague as it
gets :)  You couldn't call it the England A, it was just a matter of
figuring out which 30 to pick from the 39 hopefuls.

Quote:
> Mather at IC, Greenwood outside?  One of Clive's little experiments I
> suppose :-(

Mather was awful, I thought.  replacing him with Stimpson in the 2nd 40
was a good move.  i think Greenwood moved to IC for the second half?

Quote:
> I haven't seen a lot of him, but for someone that alllegedly came from
> RL his presence and hands seem very poor from what people say....

Who, Mather or Greenwood?

 
 
 

England XV - USA XV (Spoilers, for those who give a shit...)

Post by Kev » Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:00:00

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Quote:
>> I haven't seen a lot of him, but for someone that alllegedly came from
>> RL his presence and hands seem very poor from what people say....

>Who, Mather or Greenwood?

Mather. AFAIK Greenwood has never played league.

Good to see he (Greenwood) had a good game. England need him. Although a
game against top oppo with real pressure is  probably needed. What chance of
that before the WC !?

Kev

 
 
 

England XV - USA XV (Spoilers, for those who give a shit...)

Post by Ian Diddam » Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Good to see he (Greenwood) had a good game. England need him. Although a
> game against top oppo with real pressure is  probably needed. What chance of
> that before the WC !?

USA on saturday, the England IIRC have a test against canada...  then
two intriguing matches against "AD selections"  which could mean
everything - or nothing.

Didds

 
 
 

England XV - USA XV (Spoilers, for those who give a shit...)

Post by Thlay » Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>USA on saturday, the England IIRC have a test against canada...  

Yes, England-Canada at Twickenham on the 28th.

Quote:
>then two intriguing matches against "AD selections"

Sept. 7th at Anfield (??), and Sept. 18th at Twickenham.

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England XV - USA XV (Spoilers, for those who give a shit...)

Post by Charlie Pear » Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:00:00



Quote:


>> > England                54 (21)
>> > USA                      6 (6)

>> Was this game billed as England, England "A" or England XV ?

>I think it was England XV vs USA XV, which is pretty much as vague as it
>gets :)  You couldn't call it the England A, it was just a matter of
>figuring out which 30 to pick from the 39 hopefuls.

Are there any rules on when a side is an "A" side?  For example is it
only an "A" side when there is a separate squad picked for a full Test
at around the same time?

Charlie

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