RSRU is turning into Rec.NZ.Sport.NZ.Rugby.NZ.Union.NZ.

RSRU is turning into Rec.NZ.Sport.NZ.Rugby.NZ.Union.NZ.

Post by a_wi » Thu, 15 May 2003 01:19:22


I'm not ***ing, this is just a general observation...

Seems this newsgroup is totally dominated by NZ posters, and NZ
viewpoints these days.
Sad really - I've been lurking here since around '98 (have posted
under various pseudonyms), and the group used to have a much more
world-wide/representative feel...

These days it's all about everyones "AB 15", Cantubury conspiracies,
Bobs perverse facination with Carlos Spencer, and debates over 'Rubix'
Thornes invisibility...

There are a couple of Ockers still around, but I hardly see a mention
from the Poms, Safers, Welsh, etc.

Ferdi, Ace of Spades - any other Safers here ?

 
 
 

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Post by Peter Ashfor » Thu, 15 May 2003 06:07:15

Quote:

> Paul [Not having noticed anyone recently suggesting that France are a threat
> at the WC]  

I certainly think they are.  Fast running tracks will suit the cunning
***s.

Peter.

 
 
 

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Post by Allstarn » Thu, 15 May 2003 07:49:14

France are always a threat, they are the only side from the northern
hemisphere who consistently compete with the southern hemisphere sides both
home and away.

I don't know why there's so many NZer's here, it's not like we choose who
posts here, so I guess that's just how it goes.

Alister


Quote:


> > There are a couple of Ockers still around, but I hardly see a mention
> > from the Poms, Safers, Welsh, etc.

> > Ferdi, Ace of Spades - any other Safers here ?

> Being a Pom living in SA, I sort of have a foot in two camps.

> The last time I posted here (about the Eng vs Ire 6N game) the thread
turned
> into an exchange (> 50 posts) of verbal abuse between Col and imanutta. If
> I've got something worthwhile to say then I'll say it but I won't bother
if
> the threads become childish personal abuse. Having said this, I do lurk in
> the ng and enjoy some of the exchanges, if only because it shows the
> divisions and regionalism between the supporters of the SH sides,
> particularly over selection.

> I'm waiting for the WC in October/November when I'm looking forward to
> seeing Eng narrowly beating the AB's in the WC final.

> Paul [Not having noticed anyone recently suggesting that France are a
threat
> at the WC]


 
 
 

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Post by Marine » Thu, 15 May 2003 13:44:47

Rugby is one of the prime national sports of NZ along with sailing and NZ
has consistenly produced the best test side throughout history so I would
say it is only natural to have a lot of Kiwis in a Rugby Newsgroup.

Likewise, I am sure that cricket newsgroups have a high ratio of Aussies.


Quote:
> I'm not ***ing, this is just a general observation...

> Seems this newsgroup is totally dominated by NZ posters, and NZ
> viewpoints these days.
> Sad really - I've been lurking here since around '98 (have posted
> under various pseudonyms), and the group used to have a much more
> world-wide/representative feel...

> These days it's all about everyones "AB 15", Cantubury conspiracies,
> Bobs perverse facination with Carlos Spencer, and debates over 'Rubix'
> Thornes invisibility...

> There are a couple of Ockers still around, but I hardly see a mention
> from the Poms, Safers, Welsh, etc.

> Ferdi, Ace of Spades - any other Safers here ?

 
 
 

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Post by John Hil » Thu, 15 May 2003 16:28:53



Quote:
>Rugby is one of the prime national sports of NZ along with sailing and NZ
>has consistenly produced the best test side throughout history so I would
>say it is only natural to have a lot of Kiwis in a Rugby Newsgroup.

But, RSRU has been dominated by a Kiwi centric view with a whole of
fanzine type posts and insults.

JH

Quote:

>Likewise, I am sure that cricket newsgroups have a high ratio of Aussies.

 
 
 

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Post by Mike Am » Thu, 15 May 2003 16:30:24

Quote:

> Ferdi, Ace of Spades - any other Safers here ?

Not really. It's difficult to maintain enthusiasm for the game when your
teams are propping up the bottom of the log. And hardly surprising that
Kiwi posts dominate the group. Their teams are doing the same on the park.

But those of us who enjoy the game for its own sake are looking forward to
some great action on Saturday!

 
 
 

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Post by Kip » Thu, 15 May 2003 18:53:19

On Wed, 14 May 2003 08:28:53 +0100, John Hill

Quote:

>But, RSRU has been dominated by a Kiwi centric view with a whole of
>fanzine type posts and insults.

Yes, they do. Standard fare for players, ex-players, die hard rugby
public. Why would any post here if they weren't the rugby public? Is
there a minimum social cast allowed to play where you come from?
 
 
 

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Post by Bren » Thu, 15 May 2003 19:57:16

Quote:

> I'm not ***ing, this is just a general observation...

> Seems this newsgroup is totally dominated by NZ posters, and NZ
> viewpoints these days.
> Sad really - I've been lurking here since around '98 (have posted
> under various pseudonyms), and the group used to have a much more
> world-wide/representative feel...

> These days it's all about everyones "AB 15", Cantubury conspiracies,
> Bobs perverse facination with Carlos Spencer, and debates over 'Rubix'
> Thornes invisibility...

> There are a couple of Ockers still around, but I hardly see a mention
> from the Poms, Safers, Welsh, etc.

> Ferdi, Ace of Spades - any other Safers here ?

My guess is that it's partly front-running, band wagon-jumping kiwis
(including myself here), plus the change in seasons.  NZ teams running
hot in the S12, season winding up in the NH, SA and Welsh rugby in the
doldrums etc.

The Aussies are just a bit soft.  Watching league, maybe?

Cheers

Brent

 
 
 

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Post by 600 » Fri, 16 May 2003 01:49:44

Quote:

> My guess is that it's partly front-running, band wagon-jumping kiwis
> (including myself here), plus the change in seasons.  

I have to admit it but I also find myself following NZ rugby more
closely these days - there is very little to talk about if you're a SA
supporter...

It's one thing to have your ups and downs, but since '98, it's all
been down...we had a brief spell in the WC (that Larkham drop!), but
besides that we've had sweet f"ck all to cheer about...

 
 
 

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Post by Nik Warrensso » Fri, 16 May 2003 17:17:35


Quote:
>I'm not ***ing, this is just a general observation...

>Seems this newsgroup is totally dominated by NZ posters, and NZ
>viewpoints these days.

I'll cry for ye...

Quote:
>Sad really - I've been lurking here since around '98 (have posted
>under various pseudonyms), and the group used to have a much more
>world-wide/representative feel...

We...aren't stopping them posting.

Quote:
>These days it's all about everyones "AB 15", Cantubury conspiracies,
>Bobs perverse facination with Carlos Spencer, and debates over 'Rubix'
>Thornes invisibility...

Bobsy boy is obsessive...

Quote:
>There are a couple of Ockers still around, but I hardly see a mention
>from the Poms, Safers, Welsh, etc.

It would seem that they lack our passion...

Quote:
>Ferdi, Ace of Spades - any other Safers here ?

To tell the truth, I miss Mike Amm's posts. Always cogent balanced
insightful and accurate.

Nik

 
 
 

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Post by Nik Warrensso » Fri, 16 May 2003 17:20:30



Quote:
>Rugby is one of the prime national sports of NZ along with sailing

Only if you're a Jafa...

Quote:
> and NZ has consistenly produced the best test side throughout history so I would
>say it is only natural to have a lot of Kiwis in a Rugby Newsgroup.

It is.

Quote:
>Likewise, I am sure that cricket newsgroups have a high ratio of Aussies.

Can someone report on this?

Nik

 
 
 

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Post by rick bo » Fri, 16 May 2003 20:18:05



Quote:
>The last time I posted here (about the Eng vs Ire 6N game) the thread turned
>into an exchange (> 50 posts) of verbal abuse between Col and imanutta.

Lesson number one. Never read anything by Col or Imanutta.

-- rick boyd

 
 
 

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Post by John William » Sat, 17 May 2003 03:42:17



Quote:


>>The last time I posted here (about the Eng vs Ire 6N game) the thread turned
>>into an exchange (> 50 posts) of verbal abuse between Col and imanutta.

>Lesson number one. Never read anything by Col or Imanutta.

Better still, *plonk* them permanently. Talking of which, Morrissey
has emerged from the yellow card I gave him, I notice. Behaving
himself so far...

--

Regards,
John Williams

 
 
 

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Post by Mees Roelof » Sat, 17 May 2003 06:00:58

John Williams schrijft:

Quote:

>>Lesson number one. Never read anything by Col or Imanutta.

>Better still, *plonk* them permanently. Talking of which, Morrissey
>has emerged from the yellow card I gave him, I notice. Behaving
>himself so far...

Marking entire threads as read on the mere subject. 90% of the
threads, most of them SH ones, fall out in this way (even though I
admit having a full-time job changes your group behavior too). Then
one has to hope that NH threads aren't being flamed by the likes
mentioned above.

My view of the trend of turning into a NZ group: where are the days
that Dejanews listed RSRU as 'British Rugby'? I think there have
always been many posters here from the nations doing fine. They have
come and left with the rise and fall of their nations. On the European
front, the Welsh and Scottish posters have largely disappeared; the
Irish are only appearing now.

Among the SANZAR nations, there were many South African posters around
1998, when Nick Mallett was on his 17-game streak. Then the Aussies
came in. With NZ always being (close to the) top, we've always seen a
lot of Kiwis here. The difference between, say, 1998 and now is that
we have Kiwis posting in incredibly large volumes. People able to post
25 times a day (per head) about Rubix being a journeyman.

--
RSRU FAQ and Shield: http://pino.faithweb.com/rsru

 
 
 

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Post by John William » Sat, 17 May 2003 06:29:12

On Thu, 15 May 2003 23:00:58 +0200, Mees Roelofs

Quote:

>John Williams schrijft:

>>>Lesson number one. Never read anything by Col or Imanutta.

>>Better still, *plonk* them permanently. Talking of which, Morrissey
>>has emerged from the yellow card I gave him, I notice. Behaving
>>himself so far...
>Marking entire threads as read on the mere subject. 90% of the
>threads, most of them SH ones, fall out in this way (even though I
>admit having a full-time job changes your group behavior too). Then
>one has to hope that NH threads aren't being flamed by the likes
>mentioned above.

Natural NH restraint in the face of severe provocation, old boy...
:-).

Quote:
>My view of the trend of turning into a NZ group: where are the days
>that Dejanews listed RSRU as 'British Rugby'? I think there have
>always been many posters here from the nations doing fine. They have
>come and left with the rise and fall of their nations. On the European
>front, the Welsh and Scottish posters have largely disappeared; the
>Irish are only appearing now.

I look at wales.sport.rugby-union. It's incredible, not a single post
since the end of March. I'm tempted to post a test just to see if
there's anyone else still reading it, but it would be a crime to break
such an impressive, spontaneous silence.

Quote:
>Among the SANZAR nations, there were many South African posters around
>1998, when Nick Mallett was on his 17-game streak. Then the Aussies
>came in. With NZ always being (close to the) top, we've always seen a
>lot of Kiwis here. The difference between, say, 1998 and now is that
>we have Kiwis posting in incredibly large volumes. People able to post
>25 times a day (per head) about Rubix being a journeyman.

Yes, it's quite hard work at times, but it's always worth reading some
posters, and to be fair quite a few posts are dead on topic and
interesting. What does get a bit irrelevant for someone not watching
the games is the sheer repetitiveness of some of the topics, though I
guess that's inevitable when the NZ team selection is so open at the
moment. To be honest, I think it's been comparatively quiet this SH
season so far. It's very seldom there are close to 100 posts in a day
(maybe that's my filters bringing the number down), whereas in
previous years 100 seems to have been a daily minimum.

Perhaps that's just my impression and things will pick up in the 3Ns.
Personally I won't mind that, as I expect to watch much more of the
coming internationals than I've managed of the S12 (not a minute
watched so far - there's just too much rugby around to catch it all at
the moment).

The big test for me will be the WC. I couldn't take the pace for the
whole tournament here in 99, though 95 was very different and much
more interesting as RSR was new to me then.

--

Regards,
John Williams