Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Ad » Sat, 29 Aug 1998 04:00:00


Quote:



>>Welsh Rugby.  Soon those words won't be able to be placed next to each other
>>without someone calling it an oxymoron.
>Hmmm, a bit like 'English sense of fair play'?
>--
>Kingsley

Where Paul Dutton is concerned, I'd tend to agree! He's blinkered to
the point of blindness - it's a wonder he sees any games at all!
English Rugby is in the same sad position that Welsh Rugby is at the
moment - we can't compete at the top level.
As for the lower echelons - theres no difference between AD2 and WRU2,
IMO. Except that some clubs have *** amounts of money injected
into them, and are obviously not going to stay there for long. This is
more prevalent in England than Wales, as they have more money. But
still not enough.
It will all settle down in time.

Ade

 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Paul Dutto » Sun, 30 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Cardiff Moneybags became the latest Welsh Club to suffer ignominious
defeat by an English side in last nights 'friendly' vs Sale RUFC.

The friendly was not sanctioned by the WRU who have threatened reprisals
against Cardiff if it took place.  What form these will take have yet
to be made clear.

(The RFU have also 'banned' friendlies between English AD1 sides and Welsh
Clubs but only on Saturdays of the English season.  As this game was on Friday
night it presumably doesn't count.  However, next week, 2 such friendlies are
scheduled on Saturday and the English clubs have promised to fulfil them
against the ruling of the RFU.)

In last nights game, Cardiff mixed it with Sale and the game was anything
other than friendly.  The Welsh rebels edged the opening exchanges but didn't
last the pace and a penalty try and 2 more from Chris Yates and Simon Raiwalui
ensured that the dismal Welsh record vs English sides in pre season games this
year continued as they capitulated 21 points to 11.

The fitness of the Welsh side was called into question as their massive pack
were run off their feet and visibly tired.

To put the result into prespective Sale are mid-table English Premiership
hopefuls and Cardiff Moneybags are the cream of Welsh Club sides who hope to
be able to arrange regular fixtures with top English sides and would be
regarded as a shoe-in for Wales in any British League.

Aside from proving, as if it still needed to be, that Welsh Rugby is a lot of
dingo's bottoms, tonights game will have wider ramifications.  Already, Rob
Howley, Cardiff s/h and Welsh Skipper, has been told by the WRU that he must
not play any games ahead of Wales' participation in the Commonwealth Games
starting Sept 15th.  Cardiff have also raised the 2 fingers to the WRU about
this and intend playing Howley as and when fitness allows.

The man himself is not amused by the situation and admits to conflicting
loyalties.

While the response of the WRU is expected at any time, the RFU will wait until
next Saturday when 2 AD1 teams play Cardiff and Swansea, the 2 Welsh rebel
sides, in friendlies instead of playing each other as part of the openers for
the new English season.  The RFU have been told not to sanction the games by
the IB as the WRU are against them taking place.  The RFU will not sanction
them but are also unable to stop them taking place.  If and when they do, that
automatically puts English Clubs in dispute with the RFU and ipso facto the
IB.

The RFU hope that as they will not be seen to be supporting cross-border
matches then the IB cannot take action against England in the WC.  Brian
Baister, Chairman of the RFU, weakened his position with the IB by saying the
RFU had no objection to midweek friendlies.  This was not enough for the
English Clubs and a fixture list containing Saturday games vs the Welsh rebels
has been delivered to the RFU by the clubs but the RFU have not accepted it
while admitting they were powerless to stop the games taking place.

Whether the IB accepts this is anyones guess.  If they take the view that the
RFU is acting against their wishes, they have threatened to ban England from
WC99.

This one will run and run...



 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Sean Clark » Sun, 30 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
> To put the result into prespective Sale are mid-table English Premiership
> hopefuls and Cardiff Moneybags are the cream of Welsh Club sides who hope to
> be able to arrange regular fixtures with top English sides and would be
> regarded as a shoe-in for Wales in any British League.

> Aside from proving, as if it still needed to be, that Welsh Rugby is a lot of
> dingo's bottoms,

Cardiff the cream of Welsh rugby?  More a collection of players who look
good on paper but have no team spirit (along the lines of the soccer
teams who have tried to buy success).....I think that Swansea(maybe) or
Pontypridd or Ebbw Vale would give the English sides a better game as
most of their players are home grown and actually give a shit about the
club and know how to play as a TEAM. I mean how many of the Cardiff
players were really that enthusiastic about a trip to the north to play
a meaningless friendly against a mid table team. No doubt you will reply
with some shite about why would an english team give a shit about
playing a Welsh team but that is the kind of self congratulatory, smug,
non-forward thinking that got our (the welsh) game in the mess it is
now.....you have been warned!!!

By the way why do you take so much time gloating about the demise of the
game in Wales rather than basking in Englands (supposed)
glory?????...hmmmmm.....

Sean

 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Dave » Mon, 31 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Cardiff's defeat at Sale just goes to prove why Welsh clubs need to play at
a higher level.  The sooner they play these sort of games regularly the
better for the Welsh players and their national XV
 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Paul Dutto » Tue, 01 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>> To put the result into prespective Sale are mid-table English Premiership
>> hopefuls and Cardiff Moneybags are the cream of Welsh Club sides who hope
>> to be able to arrange regular fixtures with top English sides and would be
>> regarded as a shoe-in for Wales in any British League.

>> Aside from proving, as if it still needed to be, that Welsh Rugby is a lot
>> of dingo's bottoms,
>Cardiff the cream of Welsh rugby?  More a collection of players who look
>good on paper but have no team spirit (along the lines of the soccer
>teams who have tried to buy success).....I think that Swansea(maybe) or
>Pontypridd or Ebbw Vale would give the English sides a better game as
>most of their players are home grown and actually give a shit about the
>club and know how to play as a TEAM. I mean how many of the Cardiff
>players were really that enthusiastic about a trip to the north to play
>a meaningless friendly against a mid table team. No doubt you will reply
>with some shite about why would an english team give a shit about
>playing a Welsh team but that is the kind of self congratulatory, smug,
>non-forward thinking that got our (the welsh) game in the mess it is
>now.....you have been warned!!!

Yeah Yeah.  Ebbw Vale can't even beat Llanelli and they got stuffed 55-9 by
Saracens.  At Stradey.  Sospan Fached all over the place.

No wonder Cardiff and the Mighty White Swans want to get out of the cesspit
and play someone decent.

Quote:
>By the way why do you take so much time gloating about the demise of the
>game in Wales rather than basking in Englands (supposed)
>glory?????...hmmmmm.....
>Sean

Welsh Rugby.  Soon those words won't be able to be placed next to each other
without someone calling it an oxymoron.


 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Kingsley Matthew » Tue, 01 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
>Welsh Rugby.  Soon those words won't be able to be placed next to each other
>without someone calling it an oxymoron.

Hmmm, a bit like 'English sense of fair play'?
--
Kingsley
 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Booni » Thu, 03 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>Yeah Yeah.  Ebbw Vale can't even beat Llanelli and they got stuffed 55-9 by
>Saracens.  At Stradey.  Sospan Fached all over the place.

Ah, yes. Saracens, winners of the Tetley Bitter cup, runners up in AD1
by a single league point VS Llanelli who were minus eight players (I
think it was). The game was staged as a pre-season friendly and come
about because of the 'Copsey' connection.
Boonie -                       (Please remove FEZ when replying)
Darts,Beer,Saracens Fez Boys - The 'Official' Website now at;
http://www.boonie.demon.co.uk (at version (0.1.3) 22/ 7/98)
 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Sean Clark » Thu, 03 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:




> >>Welsh Rugby.  Soon those words won't be able to be placed next to each other
> >>without someone calling it an oxymoron.

> >Hmmm, a bit like 'English sense of fair play'?
> >--
> >Kingsley

> Where Paul Dutton is concerned, I'd tend to agree! He's blinkered to
> the point of blindness - it's a wonder he sees any games at all!
> English Rugby is in the same sad position that Welsh Rugby is at the
> moment - we can't compete at the top level.

I tried to point this point this out to Mr Mutton a little whiles
ago.....

Sean

 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Sean Clark » Thu, 03 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> >Yeah Yeah.  Ebbw Vale can't even beat Llanelli and they got stuffed 55-9 by
> >Saracens.  At Stradey.  Sospan Fached all over the place.
> Ah, yes. Saracens, winners of the Tetley Bitter cup, runners up in AD1
> by a single league point VS Llanelli who were minus eight players (I
> think it was). The game was staged as a pre-season friendly and come
> about because of the 'Copsey' connection.
> Boonie -                       (Please remove FEZ when replying)
> Darts,Beer,Saracens Fez Boys - The 'Official' Website now at;
> http://www.boonie.demon.co.uk (at version (0.1.3) 22/ 7/98)

OK OK...I put the kiss of death on Ebbw...I will immediately go and
commit "hari kari"
 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Nigel Evan » Thu, 03 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
>Welsh Rugby.  Soon those words won't be able to be placed next to each other
>without someone calling it an oxymoron.

                Come off it, Dutton ! There's only about four of us who
watch rugby who know what an "oxymoron" is ! I suggest that the word
"crap" be used. I don't think it's been used before so I'll claim it as
a personal first.
--
Nigel Evans
 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Paul Dutto » Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


>>Welsh Rugby.  Soon those words won't be able to be placed next to each other
>>without someone calling it an oxymoron.
>Hmmm, a bit like 'English sense of fair play'?
>--
>Kingsley

Kingers.  You guys just want the moon on a stick.

English fair play?  How about the lead we gave you rabble at Twickers last
time?  Fairer than fair I thought.

OK.  Tell you what.  We'll give you a chance and double it next time.


 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Paul Dutto » Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:



>>>Welsh Rugby.  Soon those words won't be able to be placed next to each
>>>other without someone calling it an oxymoron.
>>Hmmm, a bit like 'English sense of fair play'?
>>--
>>Kingsley
>Where Paul Dutton is concerned, I'd tend to agree! He's blinkered to
>the point of blindness - it's a wonder he sees any games at all!
>English Rugby is in the same sad position that Welsh Rugby is at the
>moment - we can't compete at the top level.

What?  England drew 26-26 with the All-Blacks only last year.

Oh, hang on.  Yes, you're right.  You said Top Level.

Sorry.

Quote:
>As for the lower echelons - theres no difference between AD2 and WRU2,
>IMO.

English and Welsh rugby is like a double star.  The Welsh star has collapsed
under the gravitational influence of the WRU, a massive body, full of inertia,
to become a black hole. The English star shines out, a white giant, brilliant
to behold and with an estimated lifetime of billions of years.

Suck on that, farty dragonbreath.


 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by JMurray5 » Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


>>>>Welsh Rugby.  Soon those words won't be able to be placed next to each
>>>>other without someone calling it an oxymoron.

>>>Kingsley wrote
>>English Rugby is in the same sad position that Welsh Rugby is at the
>>moment - we can't compete at the top level.

Kingsley, as a Welshman I'm sorry to say you're wrong.

While I may empathise and in fact agree with your yah boo England sucks, the
only good Englishman is one buying a round attitude.

As rugby playing nations England and Wales are not in the same position.
They've got a competitive 1st division, with all their top sides, we haven't.
While our playing record in the last ten years doesn't bear comparison with the
English.
Oh and we didn't beat them by a record score the last time we met.

Perhaps if we could all agree on exactly where we stand,  we could do something
about it ?
John

 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Kingsley Matthew » Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Quote:


>>>>>Welsh Rugby.  Soon those words won't be able to be placed next to each
>>>>>other without someone calling it an oxymoron.

>>>>Kingsley wrote

>>>English Rugby is in the same sad position that Welsh Rugby is at the
>>>moment - we can't compete at the top level.

>Kingsley, as a Welshman I'm sorry to say you're wrong.

You are misquoting, I didn't write the above.

--
Kingsley

 
 
 

Cardiff defy WRU and get stuffed for their trouble

Post by Kingsley Matthew » Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Quote:


>>>Welsh Rugby.  Soon those words won't be able to be placed next to each other
>>>without someone calling it an oxymoron.

>>Hmmm, a bit like 'English sense of fair play'?
>>--
>>Kingsley

>Kingers.  You guys just want the moon on a stick.

>English fair play?  How about the lead we gave you rabble at Twickers last
>time?  Fairer than fair I thought.

>OK.  Tell you what.  We'll give you a chance and double it next time.

Carry on Mutton, you are proving my point with every word you write.
--
Kingsley