RS v S12

RS v S12

Post by Gerr » Mon, 05 Oct 1998 04:00:00


The Ranfurly Shield has long been one of the great strengths and
continued success against the odds for the last century, mainly because
it provides matches of huge intensity that are a proving ground for
future test players. With S12 now providing the big matches to breed
players there have been mutterings about the relevency of the Shield to
NZ rugby, but I was interested in whether a shield match has more
intensity than a S12 game, has anyone heard any comments from players or
such about which they think to be harder? (Either way I would say the
shield is still extremely important to NZ rugby)
 
 
 

RS v S12

Post by Gerr » Mon, 05 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> The Ranfurly Shield has long been one of the great strengths and
> continued success against the odds for the last century, mainly because
> it provides matches of huge intensity that are a proving ground for
> future test players. With S12 now providing the big matches to breed
> players there have been mutterings about the relevency of the Shield to
> NZ rugby, but I was interested in whether a shield match has more
> intensity than a S12 game, has anyone heard any comments from players or
> such about which they think to be harder? (Either way I would say the
> shield is still extremely important to NZ rugby)

woops, thats supposed to read 'strengths and reasons for the continued
success of the All Blacks'

 
 
 

RS v S12

Post by Stephen Hodg » Mon, 05 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


> > The Ranfurly Shield has long been one of the great strengths and
> > continued success against the odds for the last century, mainly because
> > it provides matches of huge intensity that are a proving ground for
> > future test players. With S12 now providing the big matches to breed
> > players there have been mutterings about the relevency of the Shield to
> > NZ rugby, but I was interested in whether a shield match has more
> > intensity than a S12 game, has anyone heard any comments from players or
> > such about which they think to be harder? (Either way I would say the
> > shield is still extremely important to NZ rugby)

> woops, thats supposed to read 'strengths and reasons for the continued
> success of the All Blacks'

I know from Waikato's point of view the RS is more important than the
NPC itself (John Boe seems to hold this view, as do a large number of
the more dedicated supporters). Certainly Waikato tend to lift
themselves for Sheild matches (particularly challenges against
Auckland). Thus S12 is about the least important rugby of the season. Of
course, the S12 is considered a bit of joke in the Waikato (largely due
to the composition of the Chiefs, I guess) - basically just a warm up
for the serious rugby.

Regards,
Steve Hodge

 
 
 

RS v S12

Post by Euan Kilgo » Tue, 06 Oct 1998 04:00:00


Quote:



>> > The Ranfurly Shield has long been one of the great strengths and
>> > continued success against the odds for the last century, mainly because
>> > it provides matches of huge intensity that are a proving ground for
>> > future test players. With S12 now providing the big matches to breed
>> > players there have been mutterings about the relevency of the Shield to
>> > NZ rugby, but I was interested in whether a shield match has more
>> > intensity than a S12 game, has anyone heard any comments from players or
>> > such about which they think to be harder? (Either way I would say the
>> > shield is still extremely important to NZ rugby)

>> woops, thats supposed to read 'strengths and reasons for the continued
>> success of the All Blacks'

>I know from Waikato's point of view the RS is more important than the
>NPC itself (John Boe seems to hold this view, as do a large number of
>the more dedicated supporters). Certainly Waikato tend to lift
>themselves for Sheild matches (particularly challenges against
>Auckland). Thus S12 is about the least important rugby of the season. Of
>course, the S12 is considered a bit of joke in the Waikato (largely due
>to the composition of the Chiefs, I guess) - basically just a warm up
>for the serious rugby.

I'd like to think of it this way.  The NPC and RS are the only NZ only
rugby competitions around.  I personally am horrified by the implications
of the Lochore report,  which would turn the NPC into nothing more than a
glorified club competition with no incentive to play for.  This years NPC
has seen some great struggles,  and with the competition still wide open
with 6 teams still jockeying for position,  the interest is fierce.

I don't want to see a NZ tradition reduced in status from the S12,  which
is the way things seem to be going.  The NPC is the premiere NZ only
competition,  and receives intense support from provincial NZ,  who retain
some of their own identity instead of getting swallowed by franchise type
team based in the major centres.

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RS v S12

Post by Donut Bo » Tue, 06 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
> I know from Waikato's point of view the RS is more important than the
> NPC itself (John Boe seems to hold this view, as do a large number of
> the more dedicated supporters). Certainly Waikato tend to lift
> themselves for Sheild matches (particularly challenges against
> Auckland). Thus S12 is about the least important rugby of the season.
> Of
> course, the S12 is considered a bit of joke in the Waikato (largely
> due
> to the composition of the Chiefs, I guess) - basically just a warm up
> for the serious rugby.

In Wellington the Super 12 seems to be the most important Rugby Comp.
this is prolly due to the fact we havn't played for the shield since '96
and prolly won't until 2354 and the last time we did play we lost 63-6
or something really bad to Canterbury and because the lions suck even
when the do have Cullen play only really get e***d about the
Hurricanes playing. This is why the Hurricanes Jeserys out sold Auckland
Blues 2 to 1 and the Rest of the other teams 3 to 1.
 
 
 

RS v S12

Post by Adam P. R. Taylo » Wed, 07 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> I know from Waikato's point of view the RS is more important than the
> NPC itself

Based in press reports, Canterbury treated the sheild
challenge at the weekend as an excercise to get 5 points,
and therefore the home semi and finial.
The sheild would have been a bonus.

Perhaps if they had concentrated on the sheild, they may
have won it, and the NPC points would be a bonus, given
that they are in the semis anyway?
Who knows, its all speculation.

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RS v S12

Post by Stephen Hodg » Sat, 10 Oct 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> > I know from Waikato's point of view the RS is more important than the
> > NPC itself

> Based in press reports, Canterbury treated the sheild
> challenge at the weekend as an excercise to get 5 points,
> and therefore the home semi and finial.
> The sheild would have been a bonus.

> Perhaps if they had concentrated on the sheild, they may
> have won it, and the NPC points would be a bonus, given
> that they are in the semis anyway?
> Who knows, its all speculation.

Although what's not speculation is that Waikato have a tendency to lose
when the Shield is not on the line  - at the moment it's their only
major weekness.

Steve Hodge