Who is to Blame?

Who is to Blame?

Post by Koo » Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:00:00


<<< Pienaar's leadership.

Quote:
>(I still think he is worth much more as a leader than a player.) How else
>do you explain the collapse after Pienaar left the field.>>>

Consider this  too, however: That the  Bok forwards cracked towards
the end and that Pienaar also cracked then.
That means they did not  underperform because Pienaar left the field,
but that they  were dominated by the All Blacks and that at that stage
Pienaar also caved in.
This is my view.
Leadership (the  bit that there  is)  is  a mental thing. They  were
***ed up physically.
 
 
 

Who is to Blame?

Post by JHS » Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Hi there

I just spoke to somebody from Natal and they told me yhe local newspapers
recons Markgraaf blames Allen and Atherton for the poor performance on
Saturday? Is this true and if so, what are your comments. Apperntly the
two of them and Honnibal are playing for Natal against OVS before the
test. Does this means that HH was not selected because of Stransky's (lack
of?) performance?

I would like to raise another question.

Let us assume that Os du Randt left the field because he was fed up. If
you consider this, the Small issue as well as the mistake of selecting
Tromp (for a political view point, that is) as well as Morne complaining
about everything except his players performance, I think there is someting
wrong with managment. I think that they don't have the support of the
players, but that the players stay calm because of Pienaar's leadership.
(I still think he is worth much more as a leader than a player.) How else
do you explain the collapse after Pienaar left the field.

One last point. How much authority does the Springbok captain have on the
field during the game? Can he make desicions, like switching players
position around during the game (for instance moving himself to open side
flank, Kruger to blind side and Andrews to eight man after Pienaar left)
or is he there to enforce the wishes of managment?

Any comments?

 
 
 

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Post by roha.. » Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:00:00

The springbok were out played on the day they spent most of the second half
of the match in defense they played brillantly and were a tribute to running
Rugby no one is to blame for there loss the Kiwis were too good on the day
at least we watched an entertaining game which is more than I can say about
alot of Northeren Hempishere Rugby. Come on the ABs

Kiwi in London who will be at the outback watching the boys overhall the
Boks again  this weekend Harrigan

 
 
 

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Post by David Calland » Sat, 17 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Why do SA'ans have to find someone to 'blame' the loss on?  What
happens if the next game is lost - find a new set of scape-goats to
lay blame on?

I don't get it.

Let's face it, its a game someone has to lose, and loss can come about
in many ways, through combinations of many things.  Similarly, a win
comes about through many things added up.

Had NZ lost the last game (which I thought there was a reasonable
chance of), I would have blamed only the SA side for winning, i.e.
they won, therefore we lost.  That's the way it happens - one team
loses because the other wins.  Blaming one or two people / things is
very myopic, and counter-productive.

 
 
 

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Post by CGRADWEL » Sat, 17 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Rohan
Glad you enjoyed that match, I hope the SA`s will have the same feeling
after this weekend.

Look forward to hearing from you on Monday
Regards - Charles

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Dutt » Sun, 18 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>The springbok were out played on the day they spent most of the second half
>of the match in defense they played brillantly and were a tribute to running
>Rugby no one is to blame for there loss the Kiwis were too good on the day
>at least we watched an entertaining game which is more than I can say about
>alot of Northeren Hempishere Rugby. Come on the ABs
>Kiwi in London who will be at the outback watching the boys overhall the
>Boks again  this weekend Harrigan

All right, I'll ask again.  Have you guys got schools down there?

You really should get hold of these NZ'ers who post this sort of stuff.  They
make you look, well, a bit backward.

 
 
 

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Post by Alan Murray, University of Canterbu » Tue, 20 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> You really should get hold of these NZ'ers who post this sort of stuff.  They
> make you look, well, a bit backward.

Bwaaa - ha - ha. Pot, kettle, black?

Alan

 
 
 

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Post by Terry Fitzpatri » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>> You really should get hold of these NZ'ers who post this sort of stuff.  They
>> make you look, well, a bit backward.

>Bwaaa - ha - ha. Pot, kettle, black?

>Alan

Is "Bwaaa - ha - ha" a line taken from the Haka?

Otherwise an excellent advert for your august academic institution.
Not!

Regards

Terry

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Dutt » Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>(Paul Dutton) writes:
>> You really should get hold of these NZ'ers who post this sort of stuff.
>> They make you look, well, a bit backward.
>Bwaaa - ha - ha. Pot, kettle, black?
>Alan

Crikey!  Another one!!
 
 
 

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Post by Alan Murray, University of Canterbu » Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Otherwise an excellent advert for your august academic institution.
> Not!

Oo - er, the famous witty rejoiner for which the British are so justifiably
famous.

Alan