Best NH centre partnership

Best NH centre partnership

Post by Duncan Keen » Thu, 04 Jun 1998 04:00:00


I know Guscott and Gibbs have a history, and were great with the Lions.
But over the last year, Greenwood and Bateman have IMO been by far a
better partnership.

Duncan Keene

 
 
 

Best NH centre partnership

Post by Martin Row » Fri, 05 Jun 1998 04:00:00

In the last clash between England and Wales it was Guscot and Greenwood who
had the better of
of Bateman and Gibbs.
Bateman did have a brilliant game though and as a Individual I rate him the
best centre in
Northern Hemisphere Rugby.

Cheers
Martin



Quote:
> I know Guscott and Gibbs have a history, and were great with the Lions.
> But over the last year, Greenwood and Bateman have IMO been by far a
> better partnership.

> Duncan Keene


 
 
 

Best NH centre partnership

Post by Gordon Darlin » Fri, 05 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> In the last clash between England and Wales it was Guscot and Greenwood who
> had the better of
> of Bateman and Gibbs.
> Bateman did have a brilliant game though and as a Individual I rate him the
> best centre in
> Northern Hemisphere Rugby.

> Cheers
> Martin



> > I know Guscott and Gibbs have a history, and were great with the Lions.
> > But over the last year, Greenwood and Bateman have IMO been by far a
> > better partnership.

> > Duncan Keene

Everyone seems to concentrate on Gibbs/Bateman and Guscott/Greenwood
but over the last couple of seasons Lamaison and Glass have been
excellent. Personally, I think Bateman is easily the best of the bunch
but Gibbs is not, to me, nearly as good as the press he gets. For the
Lions he was immense but SA played very much to his strengths and it
appears to me that if you move him about space will open up. I think
having Bateman next to him has helped mask this somewhat.

On a slightly different tack, I am amazed that after this season's 5N,
that anyone could regard Howley as the best scrum-half in the NH. He
was playing behind a poor Welsh pack but he seemed ponderous and lacking
in confidence. If you watch the French game, with about half-a-dozen
tapped penalties, all he did was run five metres across the field before
shovelling the ball out to Jenkins to get clobbered.

It is not to deny his quality but last season was not close to his best.

Carboneau was the best 5N scrum-half by a mile.

All the best,

Gordon.

 
 
 

Best NH centre partnership

Post by stad » Fri, 05 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>> In the last clash between England and Wales it was Guscot and Greenwood
who
>> had the better of
>> of Bateman and Gibbs.
>> Bateman did have a brilliant game though and as a Individual I rate him
the
>> best centre in
>> Northern Hemisphere Rugby.

>> Cheers
>> Martin



>> > I know Guscott and Gibbs have a history, and were great with the Lions.
>> > But over the last year, Greenwood and Bateman have IMO been by far a
>> > better partnership.

i'm 100% rightwith your commentary... and don't forgot french centre's
venditti or comba

stado

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Quote:

>> > Duncan Keene

>Everyone seems to concentrate on Gibbs/Bateman and Guscott/Greenwood
>but over the last couple of seasons Lamaison and Glass have been
>excellent. Personally, I think Bateman is easily the best of the bunch
>but Gibbs is not, to me, nearly as good as the press he gets. For the
>Lions he was immense but SA played very much to his strengths and it
>appears to me that if you move him about space will open up. I think
>having Bateman next to him has helped mask this somewhat.

>On a slightly different tack, I am amazed that after this season's 5N,
>that anyone could regard Howley as the best scrum-half in the NH. He
>was playing behind a poor Welsh pack but he seemed ponderous and lacking
>in confidence. If you watch the French game, with about half-a-dozen
>tapped penalties, all he did was run five metres across the field before
>shovelling the ball out to Jenkins to get clobbered.

>It is not to deny his quality but last season was not close to his best.

>Carboneau was the best 5N scrum-half by a mile.

>All the best,

>Gordon.

 
 
 

Best NH centre partnership

Post by Steve Murph » Fri, 05 Jun 1998 04:00:00

I'm a Bateman fan myself Gordon but just to pick up your point about
Howley - true he's not playing anywhere near to the best of ability and has
been in this 'form' since recovering from his Lions tour injury.At the
moment he's not the best scrun half in Wales let alone the NH . However he
is a class act and I'm sure will return to his best - but at the moment he
is one of a group of World class NH rugby players (Johnson,Miller,Dallaglio
etc ) who seem totally out of touch with their games - last season World
beaters - this season (or latterly at least) average -

Steve Murphy

Quote:


>> In the last clash between England and Wales it was Guscot and Greenwood
who
>> had the better of
>> of Bateman and Gibbs.
>> Bateman did have a brilliant game though and as a Individual I rate him
the
>> best centre in
>> Northern Hemisphere Rugby.

>> Cheers
>> Martin



>> > I know Guscott and Gibbs have a history, and were great with the Lions.
>> > But over the last year, Greenwood and Bateman have IMO been by far a
>> > better partnership.

>> > Duncan Keene

>Everyone seems to concentrate on Gibbs/Bateman and Guscott/Greenwood
>but over the last couple of seasons Lamaison and Glass have been
>excellent. Personally, I think Bateman is easily the best of the bunch
>but Gibbs is not, to me, nearly as good as the press he gets. For the
>Lions he was immense but SA played very much to his strengths and it
>appears to me that if you move him about space will open up. I think
>having Bateman next to him has helped mask this somewhat.

>On a slightly different tack, I am amazed that after this season's 5N,
>that anyone could regard Howley as the best scrum-half in the NH. He
>was playing behind a poor Welsh pack but he seemed ponderous and lacking
>in confidence. If you watch the French game, with about half-a-dozen
>tapped penalties, all he did was run five metres across the field before
>shovelling the ball out to Jenkins to get clobbered.

>It is not to deny his quality but last season was not close to his best.

>Carboneau was the best 5N scrum-half by a mile.

>All the best,

>Gordon.