Flavell out for 3 months

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by Kees Ech » Tue, 04 Mar 2003 16:56:00


Just heard it on the news. Details to follow...

Kees

 
 
 

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by Kip » Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:07:43



Quote:
>Just heard it on the news. Details to follow...

But will the genius appeal?

 
 
 

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by Kees Ech » Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:45:54

http://SportToday.org/,2106,2304458a1823aT,00.html

Three-month ban puts Flavell out of Super 12
03 March 2003

BREAKING NEWS

Blues lock Troy Flavell will miss the rest of the Super 12 rugby season
after being banned for three months today for ***ling on the head of
an opponent.

The former All Blacks flanker appeared before a Super 12 judiciary
hearing in Wellington this afternoon after being sent off during the
opening minutes of the Blues' match against the Chiefs in Hamilton on
Friday night and

"It's a major setback and disappointing for all concerned," Blues coach
Peter Sloane said tonight.

"We"ll have a debrief when Sean (Fitzpatrick, manager) and Troy get back
in the morning.

"We're disappointed with what happened...but we must move on."

Flavell has had brushes with the judiciary in the past including a
one-year ban for eye-gouging in 1997 during a domestic NPC match which
was reduced to three weeks on appeal.

He has also been previously benched by the Blues for disciplinary
reasons.

Flavell was given his marching orders by referee Paddy O'Brien on Friday
for ***ling on the head of Chiefs *** Greg Smith.

The judicial committee found Flavell's use of the boot deliberate but
gave him the benefit of doubt on whether he had specifically targeted
Smith's head.

"We made a mistake, there's no question," Sloane said of Flavell's
actions.

"I need to go through it with my legal people and then make a comment
tomorrow really.

"All I can say now is the whole incident has been disappointing for all
of us."

Sloane said he had not spoken to Flavell since the hearing but
Fitzpatrick had relayed the player "was pretty upset."

"It's important we do the debrief right in the morning and look at
support structures and then the team must move on," he said.

Chiefs coach Kevin Greene, who believed Flavell's actions were
deliberate, was not available for comment tonight.

In his defence Flavell said the contact made with Smith's head was a
misdirected use of his foot.

He acknowledged what he did was reckless but said there was no
deliberate intent to injure.

Flavell has been suspended from all rugby until May 26. The Super 12
final is on May 24.

 
 
 

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by William Sutto » Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:31:22

Quote:

> http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2304458a1823aT,00.html
> In his defence Flavell said the contact made with Smith's head was a
> misdirected use of his foot.

> He acknowledged what he did was reckless but said there was no
> deliberate intent to injure.

I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt because no one could be that stupid to deliberately targets someone's head especially in
these times of the television camera.
 
 
 

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by Matt Neilso » Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:58:59


Quote:
> Flavell has had brushes with the judiciary in the past
including a
> one-year ban for eye-gouging in 1997 during a domestic NPC
match which
> was reduced to three weeks on appeal.

To be fair that was a bit of a farce. The local newspaper
(Wellington) had a quite shocking photo of Flavell with his
thumb buried in a Wellington players eye socket. There was a
hearing arranged and the 1 year ban duly announced. When
actual footage of the incident was shown it was clear that
there was no intent to gouge - in slow motion the incident
was almost impossible to detect. It took additional footage
of the game from the N Harbour Union to clear him and have
the ban rightly overturned. The 1 week ban came about as a
result of the reckless tackle (or something similar) and the
eye gouging charge was dropped.
Not that he deserves any sympathy now though.

cheers, MAtt

 
 
 

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by Mr Sceb » Wed, 05 Mar 2003 03:44:36


Quote:






<snip>

Quote:
> > > I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt because no one could be
that
> > stupid to deliberately targets someone's head especially in
> > > these times of the television camera.

> > Give it a bone. The replays tonight show that he deliberately lifted his
> > leg, and stomped it down. The only *slightly* exhonerating feature is
that
> > he didn't appear to know what was under his foot - tough.

> How do you accidently lift your leg and stomp down.

Reread it. And then try and show me where i use the word "accidental'.

--
Mr Scebe
Losers always whine about their 'best'.
Winners go home and *** the prom queen".
~Sean Connery in "The Rock"

 
 
 

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by Tony Elso » Wed, 05 Mar 2003 04:22:59


Quote:

> A serial thug like a serial drug taker should get the maximum, hey but in
NZ
> you get 3 weeks for eye gouging so maybe 3 months for stomping on
someone's
> head is a tough sentence.

Grow a cell or two will you.  The real punishment is that his AB chances
this year are pretty much nil.  No WC.  All over rover for him.
 
 
 

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by Kip » Wed, 05 Mar 2003 05:15:31



Quote:
>A serial thug like a serial drug taker should get the maximum, hey but in NZ
>you get 3 weeks for eye gouging so maybe 3 months for stomping on someone's
>head is a tough sentence.

Chucka, history dictates that if Flavell was a wallaby the jury would
have found it all to be a big 'misunderstanding' and he wouldn't have
even gotten a week.
 
 
 

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by dechuck » Wed, 05 Mar 2003 05:36:29


Quote:



> > A serial thug like a serial drug taker should get the maximum, hey but
in
> NZ
> > you get 3 weeks for eye gouging so maybe 3 months for stomping on
> someone's
> > head is a tough sentence.

> Grow a cell or two will you.  The real punishment is that his AB chances
> this year are pretty much nil.  No WC.  All over rover for him.

That should have nothing to do with it, he should get the same penalty as a
NPC, a grade player or junior player who stomps on someones head and has the
convictions for foul play that he has
 
 
 

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by dechuck » Wed, 05 Mar 2003 05:38:54


Quote:







> <snip>

> > > > I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt because no one could be
> that
> > > stupid to deliberately targets someone's head especially in
> > > > these times of the television camera.

> > > Give it a bone. The replays tonight show that he deliberately lifted
his
> > > leg, and stomped it down. The only *slightly* exhonerating feature is
> that
> > > he didn't appear to know what was under his foot - tough.

> > How do you accidently lift your leg and stomp down.

> Reread it. And then try and show me where i use the word "accidental'.

the whole point is that he stomped down, he was not driving forward. If he
was driving forward you could claim accidental contact but he stomped
straight down on someones head

- Show quoted text -

Quote:

> --
> Mr Scebe
> Losers always whine about their 'best'.
> Winners go home and *** the prom queen".
> ~Sean Connery in "The Rock"

 
 
 

Flavell out for 3 months

Post by Ernest the Shee » Wed, 05 Mar 2003 05:54:00

Quote:



>> A serial thug like a serial drug taker should get the maximum, hey
>> but in NZ you get 3 weeks for eye gouging so maybe 3 months for
>> stomping on someone's head is a tough sentence.

> Chucka, history dictates that if Flavell was a wallaby the jury would
> have found it all to be a big 'misunderstanding' and he wouldn't have
> even gotten a week.

Feel free to sight any evidence to support your assertion. BTW, I'm still
waiting for the proof that Oliver was let off his drug charge because of a
flawed testing procedure. Any chance you'll produce this evidence soon?