Solution to SA coaching problem?

Solution to SA coaching problem?

Post by Karl Wortma » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Hi All

Here are my humble opinions regarding SA's coaching problem:

Let the coach be a COACH ONLY.

Nick Mallet left behind at least two high quality players (Hennie Le Roux
 & James Dalton), because of personal problems with them.
This should never happen, so....

Lets have a board of selectors again. The coach can be one of them, or be an
 advisor, etc. but his primary job should be to coach the fif*** players
he is given. I hate the way our Springbok team always chops and changes
according to the latest coaches grand vision.

Along with this, I think the game plan has been taken too far in SA.
Currently we operate on the basis of

1. Choose the game plan
2. Choose the players that fit it.

How about:

1. Choose the 15 best players in the country.
2. Decide what sort of game plan they can best execute.

Of course game plans will always determine players chosen, but I think
 our focus is currently wrong.

If course, this can be summarised as;
1. Don't let your coach be a god.
2. Play to your strengths.
:)

What does everyone think??

Cheers

Karl

 
 
 

Solution to SA coaching problem?

Post by Ferdi Greyli » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00


<<>Lets have a board of selectors again. The coach can be one of them,
or be an

Quote:
> advisor, etc. but his primary job should be to coach the fif*** players
>he is given.>>>

Yes!

<< Choose the 15 best players in the country.

Quote:
>2. Decide what sort of game plan they can best execute.>>

Yes!

<<1. Don't let your coach be a god.

Quote:
>2. Play to your strengths. >>

Standing ovation.

 
 
 

Solution to SA coaching problem?

Post by Gareth C Jone » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> <<>Lets have a board of selectors again. The coach can be one of them,
> or be an
> > advisor, etc. but his primary job should be to coach the fif*** players
> >he is given.>>>

> Yes!

> << Choose the 15 best players in the country.
> >2. Decide what sort of game plan they can best execute.>>

> Yes!

> <<1. Don't let your coach be a god.
> >2. Play to your strengths. >>

> Standing ovation.

No Mallett may be a fool but a team of selectors is a shit idea. History in
my part of the world has shown it to be an absolute failure - too many cooks
etc. and some really bizarre choices being made. If Mallett is picking not
on form but on personal preference then you need a better coach who doesn't.
--
Cheers Drive!

Gareth

 
 
 

Solution to SA coaching problem?

Post by Ferdi Greyli » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:33:43 -0000, "Gareth C Jones"

<<>No Mallett may be a fool but a team of selectors is a shit idea.
History in

Quote:
>my part of the world has shown it to be an absolute failure - too many cooks
>etc. and some really bizarre choices being made. If Mallett is picking not
>on form but on personal preference then you need a better coach who doesn't.>>

And is he starts doing the same?
 
 
 

Solution to SA coaching problem?

Post by Neil Barnar » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
> Lets have a board of selectors again. The coach can be one of them, or be an
>  advisor, etc. but his primary job should be to coach the fif*** players
> he is given. I hate the way our Springbok team always chops and changes
> according to the latest coaches grand vision.

This whole plan was precisely what screwed Ian Mac over in france '93
(2)? Anyway, he was chosen as a coach for his record with natal, playing
flat rugby, close to the gainline, but was then presented with a whole
bunch of people from the Transvaal who couldn't implement his plan. A
coach can not effectively coach a team to victory if he hasn't chosen
them, and implements his game plan with them.

The F*ck up comes when the coach does like he did with Skinstad. Chose
the man to play a certain game and then persist with hime when you're
forced to change the style of play due to injuries suspensions etc..

 
 
 

Solution to SA coaching problem?

Post by Ferdi Greyli » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 11:23:33 +0200, Neil Barnard

<<This whole plan was precisely what screwed Ian Mac over in france
'93

Quote:
>(2)? Anyway, he was chosen as a coach for his record with natal, playing
>flat rugby, close to the gainline, but was then presented with a whole
>bunch of people from the Transvaal who couldn't implement his plan. A
>coach can not effectively coach a team to victory if he hasn't chosen
>them, and implements his game plan with them.>>

That is the whole point, see?
A bad coach on the way to a ***up decides beforehand what he wants to
see on the field in terms of game plan and then he wants to force the
team he is given to execute it. And he is "given" a team even he picks
it.
Meantime the unit that they are - constituted by the interplay between
15 sets of different talents - may not be well suited to his vision.

A good coach will see what he has to work with and get them to do what
they do best as a combination as well and as creative as they can.

<<>The F*ck up comes when the coach does like he did with Skinstad.
Chose

Quote:
>the man to play a certain game and then persist with hime when you're
>forced to change the style of play due to injuries suspensions etc..>>

Don't pin the whole thing on Skinstad.
It started long before Skinstad became part of the team this year.
Did Skinstad play against Wales?
Did Skinstad play in the tri nations?

No.

 
 
 

Solution to SA coaching problem?

Post by Gareth C Jone » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:33:43 -0000, "Gareth C Jones"

> <<>No Mallett may be a fool but a team of selectors is a shit idea.
> History in
> >my part of the world has shown it to be an absolute failure - too many
cooks
> >etc. and some really bizarre choices being made. If Mallett is picking
not
> >on form but on personal preference then you need a better coach who
doesn't.>>

> And is he starts doing the same?

I can see where you're coming from but I think there has to be some faith
instilled in the coach. Selecting by committee may choose players who are
unsuited to the coach's game-plan. The selection committees that we had to
endure in Wales made the most bizarre decisions - they even dropped Phil
Bennett. If you want it, then so be it but I'd never want it back in the
Welsh game myself.
--
Cheers Drive!

Gareth