A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by Ron Kin » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00


It has to be said (as Fitzy would), full credit to the French-
magnificent. Although as a Kiwi I have to be a little(!) sad, and my
support for the AB's remains unconditional. Wins come and go, but the
AB's are a permanent feature of top class rugby and more often than not
they're good performers, but now France has the oppurtunity to do
something unprecedented (correct me if I'm wrong)- a Soccer - Rugby
World Cup Double.

The French build up in the soccer World Cup 98 was similar in their
close opening matches, however, by the end of the tournament they were
all class and won deservedly. If France can repeat this in the rugby
world cup 99 you can't help but feel it would be a great achievement.

GO THE FRENCH!!!

Ron King

 
 
 

A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by Andrew Eordo » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> It has to be said (as Fitzy would), full credit to the French-
> magnificent. Although as a Kiwi I have to be a little(!) sad, and my
> support for the AB's remains unconditional. Wins come and go, but the
> AB's are a permanent feature of top class rugby and more often than not
> they're good performers, but now France has the oppurtunity to do
> something unprecedented (correct me if I'm wrong)- a Soccer - Rugby
> World Cup Double.

> The French build up in the soccer World Cup 98 was similar in their
> close opening matches, however, by the end of the tournament they were
> all class and won deservedly. If France can repeat this in the rugby
> world cup 99 you can't help but feel it would be a great achievement.

> GO THE FRENCH!!!

> Ron King

The only relevant double is the Cricket & Rugby double.

If Australia play well next week - it will be a massacre.

France is certainly the most under-achieved team in world Rugby.

They played the match of their lives last Saturday - they will be
monstered by Australian forwards who can tackle.

Prediction: It will be all over by half-time.

Prove me wrong.

Au revoir.

 
 
 

A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by Winte » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>The only relevant double is the Cricket & Rugby double.

Which I hope for but

Quote:

>If Australia play well next week - it will be a massacre.

That's what the Pakis said since they got an extra day after beating the
Kiwis.

Quote:
>France is certainly the most under-achieved team in world Rugby.

And we were in the early stages of WC99

Quote:
>They played the match of their lives last Saturday - they will be
>monstered by Australian forwards who can tackle.

Yes and the Aussie XI played the match of their lives against the SA and on
that momentum thrashed Pakistan. If the French continue with this momentum
who knows what will happen....

Quote:
>Prediction: It will be all over by half-time.

>Prove me wrong.

Ok.

 
 
 

A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by Mees Roelo » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>It has to be said (as Fitzy would), full credit to the French-
>magnificent. Although as a Kiwi I have to be a little(!) sad, and my
>support for the AB's remains unconditional. Wins come and go, but the
>AB's are a permanent feature of top class rugby and more often than not
>they're good performers, but now France has the oppurtunity to do
>something unprecedented (correct me if I'm wrong)- a Soccer - Rugby
>World Cup Double.

Yes of course it would be unprecedented. Do you rate NZ, Oz and SA as
top class soccer nations that even could come close to winning a
Soccer World Cup? I wouldn't think so. The question remains: does
anybody care? Soccer and Rugby are the two major sports in France and
they're doing quite well in both. In the same way the USA have a
double World Championship in, say, Baseball and Basketball and could
Aussie get the double in Cricket and Rugby.

Quote:
>The French build up in the soccer World Cup 98 was similar in their
>close opening matches, however, by the end of the tournament they were
>all class and won deservedly. If France can repeat this in the rugby
>world cup 99 you can't help but feel it would be a great achievement.

The difference was that the French soccer team had an excellent record
in the years before the World Cup. They had been losing a game or two,
but didn't lose too much more than that. They were WC favorites right
from the start and peaked at the right moment. The Rugby team was
having a poor run before the Cup and were expected to lose against
Fiji and every team they played after that. Still, they found their
game when it's exactly needed. Going to be a cracker of a final.

Mees Roelofs
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A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by max christofferse » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


>>It has to be said (as Fitzy would), full credit to the French-
>>magnificent. Although as a Kiwi I have to be a little(!) sad, and my
>>support for the AB's remains unconditional. Wins come and go, but the
>>AB's are a permanent feature of top class rugby and more often than not
>>they're good performers, but now France has the oppurtunity to do
>>something unprecedented (correct me if I'm wrong)- a Soccer - Rugby
>>World Cup Double.

>Yes of course it would be unprecedented. Do you rate NZ, Oz and SA as
>top class soccer nations that even could come close to winning a
>Soccer World Cup? I wouldn't think so. The question remains: does
>anybody care?

>Mees Roelofs

Yes there are people who love sport who care.

I would love to see this happen because of the unprecedented nature of
winning the two trophies.

I doubt it would be acheived again.

Go France!!

Max Christoffersen

 
 
 

A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by Mees Roelo » Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>>Yes of course it would be unprecedented. Do you rate NZ, Oz and SA as
>>top class soccer nations that even could come close to winning a
>>Soccer World Cup? I wouldn't think so. The question remains: does
>>anybody care?

>Yes there are people who love sport who care.

>I would love to see this happen because of the unprecedented nature of
>winning the two trophies.

>I doubt it would be acheived again.

The chance that it would ever be achieved again is quite small. Not
too surprising, since football is not a major sport in the three
perennial powerhouses of Rugby, the SANZA nations. IOW: it's up to any
of the six nations (and I don't see Wales or Ireland ever achieving
anything in Soccer) to make this double.

Soccer is the biggest sport in the World, so it's excellent to have a
double with any other major sport, like cricket, hockey, basketball,
whatever. Australia have the possibility to make a double with another
very big sport in the World, being cricket. It would be just as good
for them.

Like I said: the USA has doubles in quite a few major sports. Do you
think they do care about the double? The only thing that matters in
the title.

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A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by Richard » Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Well if France don't do the double, Oz will with Cricket and Rugby.

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A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by max christofferse » Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Well if France don't do the double, Oz will with Cricket and Rugby.

>--
>Richard T
>Kindly remove your brain to reply.

Impressive - but nothing compared to Soccer and Rugby crowns.

Max Christoffersen

 
 
 

A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by Ron Kin » Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> >Well if France don't do the double, Oz will with Cricket and Rugby.

> >--
> >Richard T

> Impressive - but nothing compared to Soccer and Rugby crowns.

> Max Christoffersen

I'd have to agree Max, the Soccer - Rugby WC combination would  be a far
greater achievement than the Rugby - Cricket WC. The two reasons I would
cite are that Soccer - Rugby are normally conflicting codes, both
winter, and both big ball (as in equipment not metaphorically) field
games. And secondly the soccer World Cup is a real WORLD cup due to it's
global nature, 203 nation associations compete for it. Making it
somewhat more significant, I would suggest, than the cricket World Cup
whose status as a 'world' competition really has to be questioned ;)

Ron King

 
 
 

A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by max christofferse » Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


>> >Well if France don't do the double, Oz will with Cricket and Rugby.

>> >--
>> >Richard T

>> Impressive - but nothing compared to Soccer and Rugby crowns.

>> Max Christoffersen

>I'd have to agree Max, the Soccer - Rugby WC combination would  be a far
>greater achievement than the Rugby - Cricket WC. The two reasons I would
>cite are that Soccer - Rugby are normally conflicting codes, both
>winter, and both big ball (as in equipment not metaphorically) field
>games. And secondly the soccer World Cup is a real WORLD cup due to it's
>global nature, 203 nation associations compete for it. Making it
>somewhat more significant, I would suggest, than the cricket World Cup
>whose status as a 'world' competition really has to be questioned ;)

>Ron King

Agreed. And the other issue is that many of the top soccer nations simply
don't play rugby seriously.

I am really hoping to see France win - it is such an extraordinary
achievement that I really want to see it done - because we will never see
it again in our lifetimes.

This is a BIG final not just for rugby but for sport generally.

History is about to be made.

Max Christoffersen

"And all he kept talking about was glory days.."   Bruce Springs***

 
 
 

A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by Skukuz » Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:00:00

snipped...

 >>I'd have to agree Max, the Soccer - Rugby WC combination would  be a far

Quote:
>>greater achievement than the Rugby - Cricket WC. The two reasons I would
>>cite are that Soccer - Rugby are normally conflicting codes, both
>>winter, and both big ball (as in equipment not metaphorically) field
>>games. And secondly the soccer World Cup is a real WORLD cup due to it's
>>global nature, 203 nation associations compete for it. Making it
>>somewhat more significant, I would suggest, than the cricket World Cup
>>whose status as a 'world' competition really has to be questioned ;)

>>Ron King

>Agreed. And the other issue is that many of the top soccer nations simply
>don't play rugby seriously.

>I am really hoping to see France win - it is such an extraordinary
>achievement that I really want to see it done - because we will never see
>it again in our lifetimes.

>This is a BIG final not just for rugby but for sport generally.

>History is about to be made.

>Max Christoffersen

 >Yeah! Go the Frenchies for the double - Soccer and Rugby -
fantastic...........huh!? hang on - I support the Wallabies....what am I
talking about!? Go the Wallabies for the double!!! - Cricket and Rugby -
fantastic.

Now seriously folks, if we want to talk World Cup's in terms of size and
importance then the Soccer World Cup dwarfs both the Cricket and Rugby Cups.
No comparison. I really wonder how important it is to the French (outside of
diehard Rugby fans and politicians) for them to win the Rugby, perhaps I'm
wrong and I would love that to be the case because I love the French when
they play like this. And I am afraid to say the situation is similiar in
Australia. A large portion of this country doesn't give two hoots about the
RUgby World Cup, especially south of the border in Mexico, let alone the
League diehards......<sigh> The cricket victory will have had far more of an
impact IMO.

Finally when comparing the Cricket WC and Rugby WC - well I would have to
say that the Cricket is the larger and more prestigious.......the big
difference.....the 1billion odd Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans and
Bangladeshians(?) that obsessively follow the cricket. That's about 1billion
more fans......not bad numbers.

Carn the Wallabies...

Richard

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A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by Beur » Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>  Australia have the possibility to make a double with another
> very big sport in the World, being cricket.

excuse me?
perhaps you refer to former british colonies as the "World", and that would
explain it.
 
 
 

A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by petie » Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:00:00



Quote:

>>  Australia have the possibility to make a double with another
>> very big sport in the World, being cricket.

>excuse me?
>perhaps you refer to former british colonies as the "World", and that would
>explain it.

Backfires when you think of the Rugby "world" cup, don't you think?
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A France World Cup (98-99) double possible?

Post by Mees Roelo » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>>  Australia have the possibility to make a double with another
>> very big sport in the World, being cricket.

>excuse me?
>perhaps you refer to former british colonies as the "World", and that would
>explain it.

No, I don't. But these former British colonies make up a huge audience
of about two billion people, most of them living on the Indian
Subcontinent. And that audience is at least bigger than the audience
Rugby has.

And in the end, aren't the big soccer nations made up from former
colonies of Britain, France, Portugal and Spain?

Mees Roelofs
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