Haughty Aussies and Boks!

Haughty Aussies and Boks!

Post by Ratnesh Gauta » Tue, 04 Aug 1998 04:00:00


Its amazing how quickly the Australians and SA's forget the hidings they got
last year. All I'd like to say is that the All Blacks will be back ... you
can bet on that! And when they hit form again there will be hell to pay!!!!!

Ratnesh Gautam

Number 1 All Black Fan

 
 
 

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Post by ClarkKen » Tue, 04 Aug 1998 04:00:00

I agree - well said - things are down now but ...

We'll be back ...

bigger, better, stronger

 
 
 

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Post by Johan van Zyl - JVZ Systems » Tue, 04 Aug 1998 04:00:00

We don't forget, we are happy we are playing well again. And when you
play well again, which I'm sure will be soon, won't you be happy?
Just asking.
Johan van Zyl

On Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:43:09 +1200, "Ratnesh Gautam"

Quote:

>Its amazing how quickly the Australians and SA's forget the hidings they got
>last year. All I'd like to say is that the All Blacks will be back ... you
>can bet on that! And when they hit form again there will be hell to pay!!!!!

>Ratnesh Gautam

>Number 1 All Black Fan

Johan van Zyl
Somerset West
South Africa

CW Standard 2002, FM2

 
 
 

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Post by Michael Bus » Tue, 04 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Its amazing how quickly the Australians and SA's forget the hidings they got
> last year. All I'd like to say is that the All Blacks will be back ... you
> can bet on that! And when they hit form again there will be hell to pay!!!!!

> Ratnesh Gautam

> Number 1 All Black Fan

Ratnesh

I tend to agree with you. I'm a South African (living presently in London) and
believe it or not, have watched the AB's recent performances with a twinge of
sadness. It is a shame to see such a great nation struggle but never
underestimate the bastards! I mean losing to SA and Oz, quite clearly the form
teams in world rugby at the moment, is hardly something to ignite calls for
wholesale changes. They are still as dangerous as hell and certainly still a
force to be reckoned with. Watch'em at Kings Park in two weeks time. I wouldn't
be surprised if they nicked it. Having read numerous triumphalist previous
posts, I can only blush with shame. And no, I'm not a Kiwi in disguise! At the
end of the day, may the world cup never go north and may SH rugby conitnue to
lead the world and delight everyone who enjoys a good hard game of rugby!

Michael

 
 
 

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Post by Ross Finlays » Tue, 04 Aug 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> Its amazing how quickly the Australians and SA's forget the hidings they got
> last year.

It's amazing how many NZ supporters forget just how close NZ's Tri-Nations
matches were last year.  The first NZ-SA match could have gone either way
(& should really have been a draw).  The second NZ-SA match was won
comfortably by NZ, but only after SA had a man sent from the field.
(Remember also that SA dominated the start of that game.)  Remember also
how NZ folded like cheap lawn chairs in the 2nd half of the second NZ-Aus
match.

The All Blacks had problems last season, but were able to win regardless.
This season, however, they've been cruelly exposed by an improved SA and
(especially) Australian team.

        Ross.

 
 
 

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Post by John Cawsto » Wed, 05 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:



> > Its amazing how quickly the Australians and SA's forget the hidings they got
> > last year.

> It's amazing how many NZ supporters forget just how close NZ's Tri-Nations
> matches were last year.  The first NZ-SA match could have gone either way
> (& should really have been a draw).  The second NZ-SA match was won
> comfortably by NZ, but only after SA had a man sent from the field.
> (Remember also that SA dominated the start of that game.)  Remember also
> how NZ folded like cheap lawn chairs in the 2nd half of the second NZ-Aus
> match.

> The All Blacks had problems last season, but were able to win regardless.
> This season, however, they've been cruelly exposed by an improved SA and
> (especially) Australian team.

>         Ross.

Dont forget England F!

JC

 
 
 

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Post by Farani Fag » Wed, 05 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Losing is definitely something no rugby nation likes to face ... and really
there is not that much of a gap between the 3 nations. Yes NZ will be back
and this time with better players ... we mustn't forget that we have a lot
of players in the depths waiting to prove themselves ... fueled by their
child hood dream of wearing that BLACK jersey ... a lot of things have been
written recently about how the ALL BLACKS will not be regarded as worthy or
even held in awe as the Mighty Blacks ... how wrong they are ... I feel they
only write it in the HOPE that this is so.

A lot has been said about the older BLACKS how they should be axed ... well
maybe true ... I personally think we should get behind them and support who
ever wears the JERSEY LOSE or WIN , I think the guys know they didn't do so
well ... they don't need us the guys that could only dream of wearing a
jersey like theirs to tell them what they should do ... remember theyr'e
like you and me people with hopes, dreams and fears.

Michael Jones is a Friend I frequent with alot, along with Junior Tonu'u,
Andrew Blowers and Eroni Clarke. It hurts them alot when the media or Talk
back shows comment on their performance ... and I guess many other players
must feel the same too.

Its not so much the criticism of their play its more the personal attacks
wrapped around clever phrases. Look no one likes to lose and when your
playing at this level I guess its what you must expect ... when you are a
winner every body PRAISES you and wants to KNOW you ... when you lose ...
well you get a STONE HIM !, HANG HIM ! ...

Wake up NZers , lets support whoever coaches, plays whatever ... lets show
our young generation an example of being a good loser , by making
constructive criticisms that serve only to encourage not to destroy.

Is WINNING the most important thing we need to encourage our youth ?

Because if it is ... then someone better explain to them that suicide isn't
the answer when they lose.

Quote:

>I agree - well said - things are down now but ...

>We'll be back ...

>bigger, better, stronger

 
 
 

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Post by Brett Chapma » Wed, 05 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Michael Jones is a Friend I frequent with alot, along with Junior Tonu'u,
>Andrew Blowers and Eroni Clarke. It hurts them alot when the media or Talk
>back shows comment on their performance ... and I guess many other players
>must feel the same too.

I think most Kiwis do support the AB's on the day . But players who get
ctiticised for a poor game shouldn't be so sensitive . After all it was
positive views on them that got them there and in many cases over incumbants
who had endured the same criticism they now find themselves getting . If
they are going to be upset , then maybe its the realization that there are
some fresh talent itching to step into thier mizuno's .

Cheers Brett

 
 
 

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Post by Lois Y » Thu, 06 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Its amazing how quickly the Australians and SA's forget the hidings they got
> last year. All I'd like to say is that the All Blacks will be back ... you
> can bet on that! And when they hit form again there will be hell to pay!!!!!

> Ratnesh Gautam

> Number 1 All Black Fan

Right, no Haughty NZ-ers :)  I agree this isn't the quality of AB's we
expect, but no team can be on top for ever.  You call other team's fans
"arrogent" but check the mirror mate, you're just like the rest of us,
when your lads are on top you crow it to th world.  No one is saying the
Ab's are dead & buried.  Check the posts, the intelligent SA & Oz fans
agree that the AB's will be back.

The only thing I'd hazard to predict for RWC 1999 is that we'll have our
1st 2-time winner. Now which that will be . . . nope, I'm not that brave
or confident.  Too bad Las Vegas doesn't have futurebook odds on the
RWC.  Does anyone know who might?

Lois

 
 
 

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Post by Mees Roelo » Thu, 06 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Its not so much the criticism of their play its more the personal attacks
>wrapped around clever phrases. Look no one likes to lose and when your
>playing at this level I guess its what you must expect ... when you are a
>winner every body PRAISES you and wants to KNOW you ... when you lose ...
>well you get a STONE HIM !, HANG HIM ! ...

I knew that Brazilians are going very far at soccer - they actually
fired their entire coaching staff after becoming second in the World
Cup - but I have to say I'm surprised by this reactions.

One of the first things I heard after last week's NZ-SA match was that
the Kiwi supporters had been gracious in defeat, but one hour after
the match the party begins at rsru and talkback radio.

I'm no psychological genius but I think that's a typical example of
mass-psychosis.

It sounds hard for Hart, but firing him would be the best solution for
these feelings. The coach will get a few matches to work out his new
strategy and when he's still losing the same feelings start.

It has been going on in SA for quite some time and look at what's
going on there now. :-)

Cheers,

Mees Roelofs
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