Ireland vs Argentina (SPOILER)

Ireland vs Argentina (SPOILER)

Post by Mike Am » Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Ireland               24     (15)
Argentina          28       (9)

By no means a full house at Lens and quite surprisingly so. David
Humphreys put Ireland on the board with an early three-pointer. A high
tackle on Keith Wood earned the Argies a repeat dose of the Humphreys
muti. Gonzalo Quesado pulled back three, a minute or two later.

Humphreys slotted his third penalty and just before the start of the
second quarter, Quesado slotted his second to leave Argentina three
points adrift and then slotted his third to level the ballgame. The
penalty shootout continued and a minute later, Humphreys put Ireland in
front with yet another three-pointer.

Less than ten to go and yet another successful penalty attempt by
Humphreys, took Ireland out to a 15 - 9 lead. Quesada missed with a shot
of his own and the whistle blew to end a dead boring first half.

The penalty shootout continued within a minute of the resumption as
Humphreys slotted his sixth and followed it up a minute later with a
wellstruck dropgoal. Quesada got one a minute late and Ireland led
21- 12. Yawwnnnnn.

Another penalty to Quesada as he narrowed the deficit to six points but
going into the last quarter, Humphreys restored the Irish margin with
yet another three pointer. Then Quesada hit back with yet another
penalty after a sustained period of attack by Argentina.

At last, some rugby as the Argies ran a tap penalty from their own 22 to
take play into enemy territory with the attack ending in a lineout on
the Irish line. The Argie scrum chewed bricks but Pichot whipped the
ball out to Quesada, who flung it wide to the unmarked Diego Albanese,
who shat in! Quesada nailed the conversion to take Argentina to the
front, with little more than five to go.

Suddenly we had a ballgame on our hands as play hotted up by no less
than fifty degrees! But the penalty went to Argentina and Quesada nailed
it, to extend the Argentine lead to four points.

It was all Argies as they swarmed onto the attack, in yet another foray
on the Irish line but the Irish defence held. And then the final drama
as penalty after penalty on the Argie line put Ireland in with a chance
right up to the death, but the Argie defence held and that was it.
Argentina had it! Bad luck Ireland! Well played Argentina!!

 
 
 

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Post by Richard Whitcomb » Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:00:00

As expected a game with a very low try count.  Ireland never looked like
scoring a try and relied on their usual (and boring) gameplan.  Pretty glad
Argentina won as they probably deserved it AND know what a try is.

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Post by Bryan M.Case » Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> As expected a game with a very low try count.  Ireland never looked like
> scoring a try and relied on their usual (and boring) gameplan.  Pretty glad
> Argentina won as they probably deserved it AND know what a try is.

Well it was always going to be too close to call. One or other side
would knick it. It looked like Ireland vs Ireland out there. Or was it
Argentina vs Argentina?

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Post by Steven Russel » Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
> And then the final drama as penalty after penalty on the Argie line

Could have been a case for a penalty try, as the Argies were deliberatly
infringing knowing that a penalty was no good to the Irish. They must
have learnt from watching Auckland a few years back, any team needing a
try in the dying moments and it would be penalty after penalty.
 
 
 

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Post by Brian Devereu » Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> Argentina had it! Bad luck Ireland! Well played Argentina!!

No bad luck for Ireland.  Argentina deserved the victory.  We "earned" the
loss, as usual.
 
 
 

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Post by Rodger Donalds » Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>It was all Argies as they swarmed onto the attack, in yet another foray
>on the Irish line but the Irish defence held. And then the final drama
>as penalty after penalty on the Argie line put Ireland in with a chance
>right up to the death, but the Argie defence held and that was it.
>Argentina had it! Bad luck Ireland! Well played Argentina!!

What was with the extra time, for heaven's sake?  Watching it at work, we
were beginning to wonder if the ref really was going to keep it going until
Ireland scored a try...

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Post by Patri » Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>we
>were beginning to wonder if the ref really was going to keep it going until
>Ireland scored a try...

He sure was!!

IRELAND / FRANCE in DUBLIN vs
ARGENTINA / FRANCE in DUBLIN.

Understand? $$$$$$$

 
 
 

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Post by Guillermo Aua » Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> >we
> >were beginning to wonder if the ref really was going to keep it going until
> >Ireland scored a try...

someone can explain what happened? I understand that the length of extra time
is NOT decided by the ref. When the sideline official showed the board it
read "6 minutes" (which still was crazy) and the ref added 3 more min. of his
own?
Was this a mistake, or what?

guiYO.

ps: may be it was because of the time that Quesada takes to kick his
penalties...just kidding!

 
 
 

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Post by Yojimb » Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> ps: may be it was because of the time that Quesada takes to kick his
> penalties...just kidding!

Could be. Isn't the ruling that the kicker can take pretty well as much time
as he pleases, but is alloted 45 seconds, and anything that runs longer is
tacked on to the end by the referee?
 
 
 

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Post by Philippe Torre » Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> > >we
> > >were beginning to wonder if the ref really was going to keep it going until
> > >Ireland scored a try...

> someone can explain what happened? I understand that the length of extra time
> is NOT decided by the ref. When the sideline official showed the board it
> read "6 minutes" (which still was crazy) and the ref added 3 more min. of his
> own?
> Was this a mistake, or what?

The Argies were offside during Ireland's last ***s so while the
Irish had the ball he could not whistle the end while Ireland had the
ball without being unfair.
The real question is about the 6 minutes of extra-time decided by the
assessor.

Philippe

 
 
 

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Post by eyeate » Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:00:00

i always thought in rugby the ref was the sole judge of time hence no
hooter



Quote:


> > > >we
> > > >were beginning to wonder if the ref really was going to keep it
going until
> > > >Ireland scored a try...

> > someone can explain what happened? I understand that the length of
extra time
> > is NOT decided by the ref. When the sideline official showed the board
it
> > read "6 minutes" (which still was crazy) and the ref added 3 more min.
of his
> > own?
> > Was this a mistake, or what?

> The Argies were offside during Ireland's last ***s so while the
> Irish had the ball he could not whistle the end while Ireland had the
> ball without being unfair.
> The real question is about the 6 minutes of extra-time decided by the
> assessor.

> Philippe

 
 
 

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Post by Gareth C Jone » Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:


> > ps: may be it was because of the time that Quesada takes to kick his
> > penalties...just kidding!

> Could be. Isn't the ruling that the kicker can take pretty well as much
time
> as he pleases, but is alloted 45 seconds, and anything that runs longer is
> tacked on to the end by the referee?

Being a bit of a sad bastard I timed Quesada's longest kick during the
opening match - 1minute and 30 seconds. I always thought there was a 2
minute limit?
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Gareth

 
 
 

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Post by Guillermo Aua » Fri, 22 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> >It was all Argies as they swarmed onto the attack, in yet another foray
> >on the Irish line but the Irish defence held. And then the final drama
> >as penalty after penalty on the Argie line put Ireland in with a chance
> >right up to the death, but the Argie defence held and that was it.
> >Argentina had it! Bad luck Ireland! Well played Argentina!!

> What was with the extra time, for heaven's sake?  Watching it at work, we
> were beginning to wonder if the ref really was going to keep it going until
> Ireland scored a try...

Well, as you guys know the lenght of extra time is determined by officials
outside
the field, not by the ref. The Ireland/Argentina was not unusually interrupted
(at all!), 1 or 2
minutes of extra time should have been ok. However, for the World Cup
organizers and
Board, Ireland playing in Dublin against France would have been a much more
profitable game....

cheers,

guiYO.

 
 
 

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Post by Stuart Anderto » Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:00:00

After the six minutes of time was over, Ireland had successive penalties,
and you can't end a game on a penalty. As soon as there was a non-penalty
stoppage he blew up.

Is the amount of extra time decided by the fourth official, or is it like
football, where theref decides how much and tells the guy on the touchline
how much to indicate on his board?

Quote:


>> >we
>> >were beginning to wonder if the ref really was going to keep it going
until
>> >Ireland scored a try...

>someone can explain what happened? I understand that the length of extra
time
>is NOT decided by the ref. When the sideline official showed the board it
>read "6 minutes" (which still was crazy) and the ref added 3 more min. of
his
>own?
>Was this a mistake, or what?

>guiYO.

>ps: may be it was because of the time that Quesada takes to kick his
>penalties...just kidding!

 
 
 

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Post by Hernan Saa » Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:



> > >It was all Argies as they swarmed onto the attack, in yet another foray
> > >on the Irish line but the Irish defence held. And then the final drama
> > >as penalty after penalty on the Argie line put Ireland in with a chance
> > >right up to the death, but the Argie defence held and that was it.
> > >Argentina had it! Bad luck Ireland! Well played Argentina!!

> > What was with the extra time, for heaven's sake?  Watching it at work, we
> > were beginning to wonder if the ref really was going to keep it going until
> > Ireland scored a try...

> Well, as you guys know the lenght of extra time is determined by officials
> outside
> the field, not by the ref. The Ireland/Argentina was not unusually interrupted
> (at all!), 1 or 2
> minutes of extra time should have been ok. However, for the World Cup
> organizers and
> Board, Ireland playing in Dublin against France would have been a much more
> profitable game....

> cheers,

> guiYO.

Well, I also remember what happened to the Argentina team in 1990 WC against
Italy.  The ref added more than 5 minutes to the game.  It is like a pattern I
guess.
But it seems like soccer officials became a lot more objective in the last
years.

Anyways,  if the Pumas win it will not be thanks to the officials' sympathy.
We are not welcome.  We know it.

--

Hernan Javier Saab