Llanelli vs NZ result

Llanelli vs NZ result

Post by Bryan M. Case » Sun, 09 Nov 1997 04:00:00


Taken from >
http://www.sporting-life.com/rugby/news/RUGBYU_All_Blacks_Lead.html>. I
have been able to pick this up at 02:47pm EDT and it was preceded 20
minutes earlier by a decent half-time report.  Anyone in NZ getting it
live(ish)?.

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Llanelli vs NZ result

Post by Mal Jone » Sun, 09 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Llanelli 3 New Zealand 81

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Quote:

>Taken from >
>http://www.sporting-life.com/rugby/news/RUGBYU_All_Blacks_Lead.html>. I
>have been able to pick this up at 02:47pm EDT and it was preceded 20
>minutes earlier by a decent half-time report.  Anyone in NZ getting it
>live(ish)?.

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Post by Adrian Jon » Sun, 09 Nov 1997 04:00:00

And lucky to get 3! ( Although it was one of their better performances
this season, I am afraid that they were completely outclassed! I'll be
surprised if the AB's concede a try on this tour, let alone lose a
game! )

Ade

 
 
 

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Post by max rei » Mon, 10 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>I watched the game live here in NZ.  I would be surprised if Llanelli could
>beat a second division team here in NZ.  What a bunch of wallies

Hey, that's a bit unfair, Llanelli is only a club side, not a selection, or wot we
call provincial. Not wallies at all.

The ABs would also make mincemeat of any NZ club side, & you wouldn't get 13,800 kiwis
out of the pub on saturday night to watch it.

However, it will be nice to see a full strength AB side in action, considering we were
below strength at 1st 5 and one of the wings.

Nigel was right about the playing time though, there were many who left for the pub
early.

cheers
Maxwell

 
 
 

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Post by Kevin Dusto » Mon, 10 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I would like to know how many Lllanelli players are in the Welsh national
team???
I would have thought they could have put up  a better display..
The wayto beat the Pom teams is to put the ball behind them and get them
running back or like the All blacks break the first tackle and then you
have open space in front of you because the pommie backs are standing up
too flat...
A good game as far as entertainment was concerned but as a game it showed
the problems that NH teams will have against the All Blacks...

 
 
 

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Post by Peter Ash » Mon, 10 Nov 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


>>I watched the game live here in NZ.  I would be surprised if Llanelli could
>>beat a second division team here in NZ.  What a bunch of wallies

>Hey, that's a bit unfair, Llanelli is only a club side, not a selection,
or wot we
>call provincial. Not wallies at all.

Your comparison is not exactly fair either.  First division club sides in
the UK are the equivalent of SH provincial sides since they are the tier
below test level.  I would not expect the Blacks to run in a score like
that against a first division side in NZ.

Peter,
who would have liked to see the game but you don't get S4C in London.

 
 
 

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Post by Laura » Mon, 10 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
>It was probably too cold and wet for them to hold a pen.

Wet yes!!!!  Very!!!
 Cold no!!!

Laura

 
 
 

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Post by Gordon Web » Mon, 10 Nov 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
> And what a miserable bunch of tourists the New Zealanders are. Went up to
them
>  after the game, as they were sitting near me, to get a few autographs
for my
>  nephew.You would think they had lost by the way they looked.Not a smile
>  amongst them.They need to lighten up a bit and enjoy playing rugby.

It was probably too cold and wet for them to hold a pen.
 
 
 

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Post by Neal1 » Mon, 10 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Any one who thinks they can judge the AB's on the strength of that really are
 deluding themselves. With all respect to the Scarlets, I do not think they are
 quite at the top of the UK game at the minute.  But delude yourselves if you
 must. The real action is yet to come and a lot will have been learned from
 that one.

 
 
 

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Post by Gordon Web » Mon, 10 Nov 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> Any one who thinks they can judge the AB's on the strength of that really
are
>  deluding themselves. With all respect to the Scarlets, I do not think
they are
>  quite at the top of the UK game at the minute.  But delude yourselves if
you
>  must. The real action is yet to come and a lot will have been learned
from
>  that one.

John Hart was interviewed on New Zealand steam radio after the match and
was pleased as he believed his team had done the basics well and had done
so for 80 minutes. That puts the ABs in good stead for the so called harder
games.
 
 
 

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Post by Laura » Mon, 10 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
>I watched the game live here in NZ.  I would be surprised if Llanelli could
>beat a second division team here in NZ.  What a bunch of wallies

I am a Llanelli supporter and very proud of the team even though we were
 hammered.They are certainly not wallies.And yes I was there !!
And what a miserable bunch of tourists the New Zealanders are. Went up to them
 after the game, as they were sitting near me, to get a few autographs for my
 nephew.You would think they had lost by the way they looked.Not a smile
 amongst them.They need to lighten up a bit and enjoy playing rugby.
Laura
 
 
 

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Post by Richard Derha » Tue, 11 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>However, it will be nice to see a full strength AB side in action,
considering we were
>below strength at 1st 5 and one of the wings.

I believe this should read blindside flanker and one of the wings.
Quote:
>cheers
>Maxwell

 
 
 

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Post by max rei » Tue, 11 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:



>>Hey, that's a bit unfair, Llanelli is only a club side, not a selection,
>>or wot we call provincial. Not wallies at all.

>Your comparison is not exactly fair either.  First division club sides in
>the UK are the equivalent of SH provincial sides since they are the tier
>below test level.  I would not expect the Blacks to run in a score like
>that against a first division side in NZ.

>Peter,
>who would have liked to see the game but you don't get S4C in London.

Sorry, I can't agree with that. Your club sides are no better than our club sides.
What is missing is an entire layer of rugby at provincial level. As it transpires,
your national teams like England etc are only equivalent to our provincial sides, and
your British Lions would equal the ABs (in level, but not in ability. They've come a
long way since Carwynn James & his burglars cleaned the ABs out in 81).

I hope this clarifies the situation for you.

Cheers
Maxwell

 
 
 

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Post by max rei » Tue, 11 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>Any one who thinks they can judge the AB's on the strength of that really are
> deluding themselves. With all respect to the Scarlets, I do not think they are
> quite at the top of the UK game at the minute.  But delude yourselves if you
> must. The real action is yet to come and a lot will have been learned from
> that one.

That may well be the case, but are you admitting that you learn from the Antipodeans
how to play your own game? Or do you mean that we have learned something?  :-)

Cheers
Maxwell  

 
 
 

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Post by Peter Ash » Tue, 11 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Maybe I should have clarified that I'm a Kiwi in exile so they aren't "my"
club sides.  The real problem here IMHO is that there are too many club
sides for the player population at the top level so the talent gets
stretched too thinly, it's the same in the cricket.

The problem with provincial rugby in the uk is that there are too many
small counties and no broader organisation (cf cricket again).  So as soon
as you put together a Southeast team for example nobody wants to know
because loyalties jump from club/county level to national level.  It's a
tricky one and I don't pretend to have solutions, I do however think
you're overstating the SH provincial/NH national sides comparison just a
little.  Ok so Otago beat the Lion's midweek side, so what.  Can the next
provincial/club side to beat the AB dirt trackers claim to be world No1? I
don't think so.

Peter


Quote:




>>>Hey, that's a bit unfair, Llanelli is only a club side, not a selection,
>>>or wot we call provincial. Not wallies at all.

>>Your comparison is not exactly fair either.  First division club sides in
>>the UK are the equivalent of SH provincial sides since they are the tier
>>below test level.  I would not expect the Blacks to run in a score like
>>that against a first division side in NZ.

>>Peter,
>>who would have liked to see the game but you don't get S4C in London.

>Sorry, I can't agree with that. Your club sides are no better than our
club sides.
>What is missing is an entire layer of rugby at provincial level. As it
transpires,
>your national teams like England etc are only equivalent to our

provincial sides, and

Quote:
>your British Lions would equal the ABs (in level, but not in ability.
They've come a
>long way since Carwynn James & his burglars cleaned the ABs out in 81).

>I hope this clarifies the situation for you.

>Cheers
>Maxwell

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