Andrew
> > Couldn't agree more. He's turning into a petty minded vindictive ***
isn't
> > he?
> <snip>
> Well....hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, and what he wants are
> some $$$s of compensation for the coffers. A 'transfer fee' if you will.
I have no problem with transfer fees being paid. Afterall the ARU, NSWRU
and juniors did invest a lot of time and money into making him a good
player. However, I haven't heard him being so keen to offer South Africa
even more money for making Tiaan Strauss the player he is, or Argentina for
turning Patricio Noriega into a top notch prop etc etc. I know they're
slightly different circumstances with regards to actually playing for the
other nation, but no one can argue the fact that their home nations made
them the players they are now.
Andrew
>> > Couldn't agree more. He's turning into a petty minded vindictive ***
>isn't
>> > he?
>> <snip>
>> Well....hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, and what he wants are
>> some $$$s of compensation for the coffers. A 'transfer fee' if you will.
>Not according to the latest articles, although you are right about him
being
>a woman. He's planning on using the law to declare JJH invalid for Wales
>and if they use him then they will forfeit their games. How he plans this
I
>have no idea. Whichever way you look at it, it's petty and vindictive.
>I have no problem with transfer fees being paid. Afterall the ARU, NSWRU
>and juniors did invest a lot of time and money into making him a good
>player. However, I haven't heard him being so keen to offer South Africa
>even more money for making Tiaan Strauss the player he is, or Argentina for
>turning Patricio Noriega into a top notch prop etc etc. I know they're
>slightly different circumstances with regards to actually playing for the
>other nation, but no one can argue the fact that their home nations made
>them the players they are now.
The disgusting part about the whole issue is that he is ***ing around with
a young guy who just wants to get on with it. IMO, he's being rather
disgraceful.
Even the readersof the Herald in Oz have voted in favour of JJH, 62% have no
problem with it, so he hasn't even got public support. (well atleast the
support of Heald readers)
Kev
Dave
> >> > Couldn't agree more. He's turning into a petty minded vindictive
***
> >isn't
> >> > he?
> >> <snip>
> >> Well....hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, and what he wants are
> >> some $$$s of compensation for the coffers. A 'transfer fee' if you
will.
> >Not according to the latest articles, although you are right about him
> being
> >a woman. He's planning on using the law to declare JJH invalid for Wales
> >and if they use him then they will forfeit their games. How he plans
this
> I
> >have no idea. Whichever way you look at it, it's petty and vindictive.
> >I have no problem with transfer fees being paid. Afterall the ARU, NSWRU
> >and juniors did invest a lot of time and money into making him a good
> >player. However, I haven't heard him being so keen to offer South Africa
> >even more money for making Tiaan Strauss the player he is, or Argentina
for
> >turning Patricio Noriega into a top notch prop etc etc. I know they're
> >slightly different circumstances with regards to actually playing for the
> >other nation, but no one can argue the fact that their home nations made
> >them the players they are now.
> I tend to agree with Bryan, in that it's now a question of money wanted by
> the ARU.As I understand it, the problem is that when the case was first
> heard it fell outside the start of the new regulations regaring
compensating
> Unions, so O' (***in' ***) Neil, is using the threat of a breach of
> contract by JJH (who is contracted to the NSW union and the ARU(not sure
> about that one mind)), and the WRU in enticing JJH to break his contract
as
> a legal means to stop him playing for Wales. He has even muttered somethig
> about any games that JJH plays in being forfeited, because although he may
> be elligible to play for Wales, he can't untill he has fulfilled or
> negotiated out of his present contract. Welsh news hinted that the IRB has
> already poopoo'ed that idea.
> The disgusting part about the whole issue is that he is ***ing around
with
> a young guy who just wants to get on with it. IMO, he's being rather
> disgraceful.
> Even the readersof the Herald in Oz have voted in favour of JJH, 62% have
no
> problem with it, so he hasn't even got public support. (well atleast the
> support of Heald readers)
> Kev
As a Waratahs supporter, I wish JJH well. He's not yet
a Herbert or a Little but he's a good'un. And he's huge.
I'll be interested to see if he makes the Wales 1st XV.
> > On behalf of all Australians who are not rugby administrator
> > blow-ins from the corporate world, I apologise profoundly
> > for O'Neill. He thinks he's stil running a bank, not a sport.
> > As a Waratahs supporter, I wish JJH well. He's not yet
> > a Herbert or a Little but he's a good'un. And he's huge.
> > I'll be interested to see if he makes the Wales 1st XV.
> Well said and fortunately echoed by most sensible Australians. O'Neill is
> making a *** of himself, which is fine in itself, but he's also making a
> mockery of the ARU and Australia and Australians in general as far as the
> rest of the rugby world is concerned. He should shut the *** up.
> Don't think JJH will make the 1sts yet. Not as a centre anyway, maybe on
> the wing. but he does have a lot of potential.
Gareth
> As a Waratahs supporter, I wish JJH well. He's not yet
> a Herbert or a Little but he's a good'un. And he's huge.
> I'll be interested to see if he makes the Wales 1st XV.
Don't think JJH will make the 1sts yet. Not as a centre anyway, maybe on
the wing. but he does have a lot of potential.
Sale have issued a 'hands off' to the Bulls in SA over Jannie de Beer.
They are encouraging him to break contract and return to SA. I hope
you vilify them as much as you do O'Neill. He may be a bit of a tosser
with a big mouth, but he does have the interests of the ARU at heart.
Justin
> >>I have no problem with transfer fees being paid. Afterall the ARU,
NSWRU
> >>and juniors did invest a lot of time and money into making him a good
> >>player. However, I haven't heard him being so keen to offer South
Africa
> >>even more money for making Tiaan Strauss the player he is, or Argentina
for
> >>turning Patricio Noriega into a top notch prop etc etc.
> They were not under contract at the time they moved to Oz. Strauss
> signed after playing League in Oz.
> >The disgusting part about the whole issue is that he is ***ing around
with
> >a young guy who just wants to get on with it. IMO, he's being rather
> >disgraceful.
> I disagree. JJH was quite happy where he was until Henry came hunting
> and he found some long held love for the valleys.
He was quite happy
> Sale have issued a 'hands off' to the Bulls in SA over Jannie de Beer.
> They are encouraging him to break contract and return to SA. I hope
> you vilify them as much as you do O'Neill.
He may be a bit of a tosser
> >Even the readersof the Herald in Oz have voted in favour of JJH, 62% have
no
> >problem with it, so he hasn't even got public support. (well atleast the
> >support of Heald readers)
> He doesn't need the public's support, he is not seeking relection and
> affirmation from them. He does however have to look after the current
> and future commercial and playing interests of his employers the ARU
> and NSWRFU (by proxy) and their sponsors. If he didn't he would be in
> dereliction of duty and breach of contract himself.
Andrew
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> > > > As a Waratahs supporter, I wish JJH well. He's not yet
> > > > a Herbert or a Little but he's a good'un. And he's huge.
> > > > I'll be interested to see if he makes the Wales 1st XV.
> > > Don't think JJH will make the 1sts yet. Not as a
> > > centre anyway, maybe on the wing. but he does
> > > have a lot of potential.
> > I'd agree.
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