Canadian squad for Welsh Challenge Competition

Canadian squad for Welsh Challenge Competition

Post by Mark Bryan » Wed, 16 Dec 1998 04:00:00


The final squad to travel to Wales has been announced.  If some of the
Canadian fans on this ng want to annotate the list, I'll compile the
comments and add it to the commentary section of the web site.  The last
schedule I saw was as follows:

Sun 10 th Jan 99 vs Caerphilly
Fri 15 th Jan 99 vs Aberavon
Fri 22 nd Jan 99 vs Neath
Wed 27 th Jan 99 vs Pontypridd

F. Asselin
R. Banks
S. Bryan
M. Cardinal
Leif Carlson
Jeremy Cordle
Pat Dunkley
I. Gordon
J. Graf
B. McCarthy
J. Pagano
D. Penney
C. Robertson
R. Robson
R. Ross
C. Smith
W. Stanley
J.Thiel
H.Toews
J. Tomlinson
S. Thompson
B. Trayner
Adam van Staveren
M. Williams  
(24 players)


Mark
webmaster
www.rugbycanada.ca

 
 
 

Canadian squad for Welsh Challenge Competition

Post by Bryan R » Wed, 16 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Well, here's what I know about the squad.

1  Brian McCarthy (James Bay AA) 193cm 115kg 30yrs 7+cps
        - formerly a lock for Barrie and Ontario, converted to prop,
          played for Fylde in ADP div 2 last year.
1  Harry Toews (Leicester) 183cm 109kg 27yrs 2cps
        - can play both sides of scrum, now plays for Leicester 2nds
2  Mark Cardinal (James Bay AA) 180cm 94kg 37yrs 29cps
        - most capped Canadian ***, tough as nails
2  Pat Dunkley (James Bay AA) 182cm 93kg 25yrs 3cps
        - also plays openside flanker for James Bay
3  Jon Thiel (James Bay AA) 185cm 118kg 23yrs 1cap
        - switched from Bayside to James Bay this year, played for
          CCSD last year.
3  Dave Penney (Swilers, NFLD) 183cm 107kg 28yrs 5cps
        - last capped against Uruguay in '96 I think
4  Brendan Traynor (Ajax Wanderers) approx 198cm 113kg 0cps
        - outstanding lock forward in Ontario, played for Prairie Fire

          in the super league, man of the match for Ajax in Ontario    
          final, sure bet for World Cup team
5   Leif Carlson (Ex-Britannia Lions)
        - played blindside flanker for Vancourver in the Super League
6   Adam van Staveren (Ajax Wanderers)
        - captained CCSD this year, outstanding Ontario blindsider
7   Jeff Tomlinson (Balmy Beach) approx 195cm 105kg 1cap
        - fast, creative opensider, good ball handling skills, good
          lineout option, can kick tactically as well
7   Rob Robson (James Bay) 184cm 94kg 31yrs 1cap
        - converted from center, also plays no8, fast and powerful      
          with ball in hand
8   Ryan Banks (Burnaby) 184cm 100kg 0cps
        - also plays flanker, captains Burnaby and the Valley Venom in

          the super league
9   John Graf (UBC Old Boys) 176cm 88kg 30yrs 45cps
        - can also play outside half, captained the Canadian team in    
          this competition last year, played for Bridgend in Wales      
          last year
9   Morgan Williams (Nova Scotia Keiths)
        - also plays center
10 Bob Ross (James Bay AA) 181cm 85kg 29yrs 29cps
        - captained Canada in Pan Am '98, played fullback for Cardiff
          last year, kicked 52 metre drop goal from right sideline      
          against Wales in '96
11 Winston Stanley (James Bay AA) 189cm 85kg 24yrs 25cps
        - outstanding player also plays for Canada 7's, made memorable

          cover tackle from opposite wing on Australia's David Campese

          in RWC '95, also plays for Blackheath in ADP div 2
11 Jeremy Cordle (Abertillery) 185cm 91kg 26yrs 2cps
        - born in Cardiff, Wales, has returned to play in Wales for    
          Abertillery, also plays center, debuted in '98 Pan Am
12 Scott Bryan (Balmy Beach) 188cm 93kg 29yrs 9cps
        - oft-injured, captains Balmy Beach and Ontario, hard runner,

          strong defender, kicked drop goal in BC-ON game this year
13 Shane Thompson (James Bay AA)
        - switched from Velox to James Bay this year
13 Colin Robertson (Montreal Wanderers) 178cm 85kg 23yrs 5cps
        - played for CCSD, plays Canada 7's, also plays wing and        
          fullback, originally a scrum half, very quick
14 Courtney Smith (Meralomas) 178cm 89kg 27yrs 13cps
        - originally from Balmy Beach in Ontario, also played for      
          Saracens and London Scottish in England, fast and very        
          elusive runner
14 Fred Asselin (James Bay AA) 180cm 84kg 25yrs 0cps
        - fastest player in Canadian squad, played for Taranaki in New

          Zealand for one season, scored 3 tries against Fiji in the
          Commonwealth Sevens semi-final, hottest prospect in Canadian

          rugby right now
15 Joe Pagano (York Yeomen) 183cm 89kg 26yrs 6cps
        - also plays wing, fast and aggressive attacker

that's about it. I'm surprised that Balmy Beach prop Boris Stoikos
isn't in the side, and that Mark Cardinal is. This is supposed to be a
development side, I think we know what Cardinal can do by now. Glad to
see that Traynor, van Staveren, and Tomlinson are there, Tomlinson's
Beach teammate Peter Ross should be there as well though. Traynor's
second row partner John Druce should probably be there too. What about
Rob Card at scrum half? Or Joseph Haley at fullback? A decent side
overall, but some silly selections, Cardinal and Gordon especially.
Graf and Ross I can understand to provide leadership, but Cardinal and
Gordon were unneccessary selections in areas where Canada needs to
find some new talent.

Bryan Ray

Quote:
>F. Asselin
>R. Banks
>S. Bryan
>M. Cardinal
>Leif Carlson
>Jeremy Cordle
>Pat Dunkley
>I. Gordon
>J. Graf
>B. McCarthy
>J. Pagano
>D. Penney
>C. Robertson
>R. Robson
>R. Ross
>C. Smith
>W. Stanley
>J.Thiel
>H.Toews
>J. Tomlinson
>S. Thompson
>B. Trayner
>Adam van Staveren
>M. Williams  
>(24 players)


>Mark
>webmaster
>www.rugbycanada.ca


 
 
 

Canadian squad for Welsh Challenge Competition

Post by Shane Eakin » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>R. Banks

    Good player but I have seen him shut down repeatedley playing at the
club level when the other team plays him tough, and may find it tough going
at the next level.

Quote:
>M. Cardinal

    Why he would be included is beyond me. Canada has nothing at *** they
need to be looking for others who can do the job, not older guys who have
already proven themselves.

Quote:
>J. Graf

    Good leader and versitile player.

Quote:
>B. McCarthy
>D. Penney

neither of these guys has done anything, where are the young prospects in
the tight five?

Quote:
>J.Thiel
>H.Toews

It's time for both of these guys to show what they ccan do at this level.
Last year Canadas scrum was pushed around and both of these guys should be
playing in every game and stop it.

Overall, very similar side to last year, who were not very sucessful. But
that was due in large part to injuries. Canada needs to find some better
depth in the tight five now, before the world cup, . One player I am
wondering about is richard Bice, is he out of favour or just injured?

Shane Eakins

 
 
 

Canadian squad for Welsh Challenge Competition

Post by Bryan R » Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>    Why he would be included is beyond me. Canada has nothing at *** they
>need to be looking for others who can do the job, not older guys who have
>already proven themselves.

Precisely my opinion as well. Adam Marshall fron Ontario looks good,
as does Scott Hendry of the Balmy Beach, but injuries have hampered
him. Time for either Rod Snow to move to ***, or another prop,
maybe Harry Toews. The days of having a *** smaller than your
wingers are over.

Quote:
>Overall, very similar side to last year, who were not very sucessful. But
>that was due in large part to injuries. Canada needs to find some better
>depth in the tight five now, before the world cup, . One player I am
>wondering about is richard Bice, is he out of favour or just injured?

He must be injured, because he is certainly a quality prop that should
be there. Watch Brendan Traynor in the second row. He played a
magnificent game in the Ontario final (read my article about it in the
National Rugby Post for Oct/Nov) and won man of the match honours.
He's about 6'6" and 250+lbs, played in the Super League last year, and
also played for CCSD, and Ontario this year. He's big, strong, mobile,
has good hands, and extremely powerful on the burst and in the tackle.
A real keeper. He should challenge John Tait for a starting spot in
the World Cup. Maybe you BC boys could fill me in on Leif Carlson, who
appears to be the other second rower in the squad. I'm also wondering
why professionals Kevin Whitley (lock) and Nick Clapinson (prop) have
never been recalled. Any help here?

Bryan Ray

 
 
 

Canadian squad for Welsh Challenge Competition

Post by Bryan R » Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Mark,

Will you be putting profiles of these players on the Rugby Canada web
site? (those players that aren't already there)

Bryan Ray

 
 
 

Canadian squad for Welsh Challenge Competition

Post by Shane Eakin » Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>>    Why he would be included is beyond me. Canada has nothing at ***
they
>>need to be looking for others who can do the job, not older guys who have
>>already proven themselves.

>Precisely my opinion as well. Adam Marshall fron Ontario looks good,
>as does Scott Hendry of the Balmy Beach, but injuries have hampered
>him. Time for either Rod Snow to move to ***, or another prop,
>maybe Harry Toews. The days of having a *** smaller than your
>wingers are over.

Scott Hendry is not in the mix for the national team. My understanding is
that he is concentrating on his career.

Shane Eakins