Vettel eats humble pie

Vettel eats humble pie

Post by Bobste » Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:29:08



Quote:

> > You'll have noticed how much harm Alonso's career suffered for
> > betraying his team.

> Although I like Webbo, he is no Alonso. Not even near.

Is that the point though? My point is that Fred tried to blackmail his
team and did not want for subsequent employment.
 
 
 

Vettel eats humble pie

Post by Edmun » Mon, 01 Apr 2013 03:37:38

Quote:



>> >> No chance. ?Costing Vettel the title by beating him is one thing,
>> >> but to be remembered as the guy who made his teammate and team lose
>> >> by giving points away?

>> >> Few drivers would do that, and certainly not Mark.

>> > Me think, it depends on his bonus and whether or not it is his last
>> > year at RB.

>> > Edmund

>> And me thinks, although this might be his last year at RBR, he most
>> certainly does not want to have his last F1 season as a driver. And to
>> go on a search for a new team with a backpack of betraying his old one
>> out of a personal grudge would not be the best referral for his efforts
>> for a new seat.

> You'll have noticed how much harm Alonso's career suffered for betraying
> his team.

Well I see that you are one of the many here still in denial, the lying
cheating hypocrite is Lewis. But indeed his career did not suffer much.

Edmund

 
 
 

Vettel eats humble pie

Post by Edmun » Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:57:40

Quote:



>> > You'll have noticed how much harm Alonso's career suffered for
>> > betraying his team.

>> Although I like Webbo, he is no Alonso. Not even near.

> Is that the point though? My point is that Fred tried to blackmail his
> team and did not want for subsequent employment.

And you tried to kill several friends of yours didn't you and you are
still not incarcerated.

Edmund

 
 
 

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Post by Noj » Tue, 02 Apr 2013 08:47:21

Edmund wrote ...

Quote:




> >> > You'll have noticed how much harm Alonso's career suffered for
> >> > betraying his team.

> >> Although I like Webbo, he is no Alonso. Not even near.

> > Is that the point though? My point is that Fred tried to blackmail his
> > team and did not want for subsequent employment.

> And you tried to kill several friends of yours didn't you and you are
> still not incarcerated.

> Edmund

You silly sod, running out of medication on a long weekend.
 
 
 

Vettel eats humble pie

Post by Bobste » Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:23:56


Quote:



> >> >> No chance. ?Costing Vettel the title by beating him is one thing,
> >> >> but to be remembered as the guy who made his teammate and team lose
> >> >> by giving points away?

> >> >> Few drivers would do that, and certainly not Mark.

> >> > Me think, it depends on his bonus and whether or not it is his last
> >> > year at RB.

> >> > Edmund

> >> And me thinks, although this might be his last year at RBR, he most
> >> certainly does not want to have his last F1 season as a driver. And to
> >> go on a search for a new team with a backpack of betraying his old one
> >> out of a personal grudge would not be the best referral for his efforts
> >> for a new seat.

> > You'll have noticed how much harm Alonso's career suffered for betraying
> > his team.

> Well I see that you are one of the many here still in denial, the lying
> cheating hypocrite is Lewis. But indeed his career did not suffer much.

One might liken Lewis to Seb in as much as both broke a team
instruction.

Fred, in 2007, was a whole different ball game. He knew about spygate,
indeed had requested information that he knew Coughlan was going to
get from a mole in the Ferrari team, and then used that knowledge to
try to put his team over a barrel and***a concession out of them.

In terms of betraying one's team that's a very different level. That's
not just a threat to team harmony, that's a threat to the well being
of the team. Fred had to know that McLaren were looking at a
substantial penalty if he dobbed them in.

But did his actions make him unemployable in F1? They did not.

 
 
 

Vettel eats humble pie

Post by Edmun » Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:29:54

Quote:





>> >> >> No chance. ?Costing Vettel the title by beating him is one thing,
>> >> >> but to be remembered as the guy who made his teammate and team
>> >> >> lose by giving points away?

>> >> >> Few drivers would do that, and certainly not Mark.

>> >> > Me think, it depends on his bonus and whether or not it is his
>> >> > last year at RB.

>> >> > Edmund

>> >> And me thinks, although this might be his last year at RBR, he most
>> >> certainly does not want to have his last F1 season as a driver. And
>> >> to go on a search for a new team with a backpack of betraying his
>> >> old one out of a personal grudge would not be the best referral for
>> >> his efforts for a new seat.

>> > You'll have noticed how much harm Alonso's career suffered for
>> > betraying his team.

>> Well I see that you are one of the many here still in denial, the lying
>> cheating hypocrite is Lewis. But indeed his career did not suffer much.

> One might liken Lewis to Seb in as much as both broke a team
> instruction.

> Fred, in 2007, was a whole different ball game. He knew about spygate,

Yup and so did the whole McLaren team and most of all Ron Dennis!

Quote:

> In terms of betraying one's team that's a very different level. That's
> not just a threat to team harmony, that's a threat to the well being of
> the team. Fred had to know that McLaren were looking at a substantial
> penalty if he dobbed them in.

That whole "blackmail" fantasy  is very childish and plain nonsense,

Alfonzie got back stabbed by an unprecedented dirty sneaky hypocrite team
mate and in the heat of that very moment he said one or two things that
some Lewis groupies still use today to demonize Alfonzie.

Most of those groupies denied the team orders to move over that was given
several times and they also denied the go swivel response.

What they all conveniently forget :

- is that honest people cannot be blackmailed in the first place.

- That within minutes of the humanly spoken very understandable outburst
of Alonso he went back to Ron Dennis to put it right.

- That Ron Dennis obviously knew exactly what happened in his team all
along and therefore panicked and already went straight to the F1 boss to
save his own ass.

I am pretty sure you once or twice said "I kill you" to someone and I am
pretty sure too that you didn't kill anyone and never even tried either.
I am also pretty sure that the things at stake in your case where not
about a 30 million year salary or anything.
Tell me if I am right or wrong?

Quote:

> But did his actions make him unemployable in F1? They did not.

No and not even Lewis, that is how the world turns, although he -as a
team player- said "go ***ing swivel" to the man who funded he whole
career and the man he tanks his outrageous salary and all his
opportunities in F1 and as his "step daddy" Ron Dennis told the world,
it was Lewis who triggered the whole thing that ultimately led to the 100
mil fine the loosing of a double WC.
This after he already refused obey orders in previous race(s).

Edmund

 
 
 

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Post by Bobste » Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:29:22


<snip>

Quote:
> This after he already refused obey orders in previous race(s).

Nonsense! In 2007 at Monaco when the team told him to stay behind Fred
that's exactly what he did.
 
 
 

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Post by Edmun » Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:35:28

Quote:


> <snip>
>> This after he already refused obey orders in previous race(s).

> Nonsense! In 2007 at Monaco when the team told him to stay behind Fred
> that's exactly what he did.

Nope, he couldn't overtake him and refused to short-shift like he was
ordered to do. Unlike Alonso who DID obey and short shifted.
If you will search you even may find something on youtube? showing the
revs from both Alonso and Hamilton in that race.
Lewis was whining after the race that he wanted a win!

Edmund

 
 
 

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Post by Sir Ti » Wed, 03 Apr 2013 01:37:39

Quote:


> <snip>
>> This after he already refused obey orders in previous race(s).

> Nonsense! In 2007 at Monaco when the team told him to stay behind Fred
> that's exactly what he did.

Don't even bother Bob, this idiot still can't get over the fact that his
hero was beaten by a novice way back in 2007 and has been posting boring
drivel about it ever since.
 
 
 

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Post by Edmun » Wed, 03 Apr 2013 07:33:31

Quote:



>> <snip>
>>> This after he already refused obey orders in previous race(s).

>> Nonsense! In 2007 at Monaco when the team told him to stay behind Fred
>> that's exactly what he did.

> Don't even bother Bob, this idiot still can't get over the fact that his
> hero was beaten by a novice way back in 2007 and has been posting boring
> drivel about it ever since.

I wished I could tell you I am sorry to remind you of the things you so
desperately trying to forget.... But I don't :-)
So you have to live with it silly man.

Edmund