>Geez, If the Tifosi are accused of having "Red Vision", then I don't
>know what you would call most of the Hill fans.... A lot of the post
>related to DH range from sad to really being out of touch with
Woooo, pot calling the kettle RED or what? ;-)
>First of all, I will come clean and state I am not a Hill supporter.
With a sig like that, I'm really surprised! ;-)
>And in general, I do not respect him. However, I will not go on a
>illogical rant of why DH is the world worst driver etc....Simply
>because he is not a bad driver. DH is a good driver who time has
>However, I will state a few reasons why I do not support/respect him.
>Hill is supposed to be a professional racing driver. Period. As a
>professional, he signed a contract with Jordan to give his all to the
>team for the duration of his contract. He is being paid millions to
>be "motivated." If Hill is not motivated, he owes some money back to
>Jordan. Reason 1.
He receives a retainer for driving for Jordan. I don't think you'll find
any clause relating to commitment, dedication, or 'giving his all' in *any*
drivers' contract... Even if your supposition was correct, it would be a
private matter between the team and Hill.
Although Hill *may* not have performed to everyones' expectations, including
his own, the fact that Jordan have been unable to supply two cars of equal
reliability during practise and qualifying (and races) should also be taken
>I don't remember Senna, Prost, MS, JV, Piquet or any other former
>World Champion giving up the way Hill has.
Nigel Mansell? Niki Lauda? Jackie Stewart? There are more...
>Certainly, other former
>champions have had poor results, and had to contend with unfavorable
>rules etc, but conducted themselves with determination and class.
>IMO, Hill has not. Reason 2.
How has Hill *not* conducted himself with class? All of the rubbish of
'will he won't he' can be attributed to the so called professional
'journalists' who, because neither Hill nor Jordan would talk to them
decided to make up the 'facts' to fit their stories. Not an unusual
occurrence. Hill's in-the-heat-of-the-moment comments about "that *may*
have been my last GP" was converted without any further evidence to "Hill
has run his last race" presented as fact when it wasn't. The lack of class
has been shown by the world's news organisations and motoring press,
including sadly the magazine Autosport, who have resorted to sensationalism
in place of truth to sell magazines. All along, both Hill and EJ have shown
>Jordan has given Hill the best car they could afford. HHF has shown
>the car is very good. Hill has not used the car anywhere near it's
>potential. (Reason 3)
Hill would probably agree with you. However, in mitigation, for a driver to
commit himself totally to driving a car on the edge, he *must* have total
faith in that car and it's preparation, *including* the regulations to which
it is built (ie tyres). Hill does *not* have faith in the tyres (a
generally accepted view among *all* the drivers), indeed it is widely
accepted among the drivers that the tyres are dangerous, due to the fact
that the difference between 'on the limit' and 'over the limit' is instant,
and not tactile in any way, added to which the decreased tread area and
harder *** mean that when control is lost the tyres do nothing to inhibit
the speed of the car. Nor can the cars be 'got back' by driving (MS in the
wall in Canada being a good example).
>As for Jordan, being nearly equal with Ferrari and McLaren as a team
>(as a few has stated), that is a Joke! Jordan annual racing budget is
>no where near the budget of Ferrari or McLaren, nor do they have the
>personnel or facilities. I would not expect Hill or HHF to be on the
>podium, unless a Ferrari or McLaren failed.
>While I do feel DH was "given" a World Championship is a very ***
>car, that is illrelevant. Just like it is illrelevant to argue about
>MS titles. The fact is DH is a champion. The record book show it.
ALL world champions have been so driving the *** cars of their
respective seasons. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.
>However, part of being a champion is showing what you can do in a car
>that is not the *** car in the field. A champion finds a way to
>win or to get the most out of the car. Damon has not be able to
>consistently demonstrate that trait.
That is a very debatable point. Personally, I think that Hill *has* been
able to demonstrate his consistent speed in a car which is not one of the
top three - at Arrows and Jordan last year. That is something that for
example Michael Schumacher has *not* been able to demonstrate. All of the
teams he has driven for have shown positive advancement as a direct result
of his input. They *all* say so! Hill's ability to turn in consistent
laptimes lap after lap are what makes him so special as a development
driver, together with his technical feedback.
What Hill *has* demonstrated this year in the Jordan is that, unlike HHF and
many other drivers, he is *not* prepared to put his life at risk regarding
the limit of the tyres in the same way that the others are. That does not
make him a lesser driver, it does show that perhaps his self-preservation
instinct is stronger. HHF's crash in Canada and the closeness of calamity
as a result made Hill think more about the danger and increased his hatred
of the tyres, which have singularly failed to acheive Moseley's objectives
and in fact caused more danger for the drivers.
>If Damon says he dislikes the
>grooved tires and that is part of the reason for his lack of
>performance, it shows how limited his driving skills really are. All
>other drivers have to contend with the same rules.
Not at all. It just shows, as I said before, that his awareness of
self-preservation is greater. The fact that he might *refuse* to drive on
the *variable* limit of the tyres is not evidence that he is incapable of
>Most of the
>drivers are not as fortunate as DH to be in a car as capable as a
>Jordan. Yet, this season, a significant number of drivers in far
>less capable cars have out performed DH. Reason 4
Most of the drivers are indeed in cars as capable as the Jordan. The gap
from pole to say, 16th on the grid at every race proves that, when compared
to races say two or three years ago.
>There is simply no logical reason why DH is not as equal or faster
>then HHF. DH has spent significantly more time in a Jordan then HHF.
>He has done more development work. He has driven more miles. As
>most know, it's a tremendous advantage, when comparing teammates.
>From almost the first practice session, HHF as demonstrated he is
>faster then DH when it counts. Reason 5.
*All* the drivers have complained vocally about how easily the cars are
changed completely by small changes in the temperature, wind or humidity.
The fact that Hill is *seemingly not prepared* to take the level of risk
that the young guns are is a factor, and is *entirely* logical. You might
not like it as a reason, but then your life's not on the line is it?
>DH fans take your blinders off. Damon is a very good driver, but not
>in the driving class of Senna, Prost, MS and the few others. He WAS
>worthy of his time in F1. But, sadly his time has passed. He has
>no one to blame but himself.
Take your own blinkers off! Both Senna and Prost accepted Hill's
qualities - and he beat Prost on a number of occasions in his first real
year in F1. *IF* his time is past, it is *only* because of the rules as
they stand. It is a sign of his class that he is prepared to prematurely
end his career rather than risk his life needlessly when he can't see the
>I hope he does get the send off he deserves, at Silverstone. He is
>one of the select few people, in one of the world's select sports to
>have earned his title of World Champion. He certainly has earned it.
Me too. I also hope that he finishes the season.