Ferrari gearbox: MS vs 360 Modena?

Ferrari gearbox: MS vs 360 Modena?

Post by Stuart Smit » Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
>Is there any difference between MS' current gearbox and 360 Modena's?

>BTW, is MS responsible for development of the Ferrari road cars?

Very unlikely, their bumpers aren't large enough to withstand the shunting
that MS does.
 
 
 

Ferrari gearbox: MS vs 360 Modena?

Post by GUCCIPHI » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Is there any difference between MS' current gearbox and 360 Modena's?

BTW, is MS responsible for development of the Ferrari road cars?

 
 
 

Ferrari gearbox: MS vs 360 Modena?

Post by Jacques Stein » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>>Is there any difference between MS' current gearbox and 360 Modena's?
>There is no similarity whatsoever.  The F360 gearbox is just an
>ordinary gearbox with an automatically-actuated clutch.

And automatically-actuated (and linear) gear selection. But still, as
you note, a modification of the standard gearbox. One hopes that
future Ferrari gearboxes will drive a stake through the heart of
manual selection by designing from the ground up for electronic
control.

Quote:
>>BTW, is MS responsible for development of the Ferrari road cars?
>LOL.  No, the customers are responsible for that, as ever.

He said "Ferrari," not "Lotus."

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Ferrari gearbox: MS vs 360 Modena?

Post by PPHM Industrie Groe » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00

"Ferraries statement about the F1 technology
We are often asked to what degree racing experience affects the development
of road cars. Right from its beginnings Ferrari has continually demonstrated
how its involvement in racing contributes to performance and active safety.
Never before, has such an important innovation as the F1 transmission closer
by technicians and drivers to improve lap times in Formula 1 been introduced
on production cars so well and in such a relatively short time frame. The
Ferrari "F1-type power train management" means that Ferrari can offer
customers and collectors a technical solution capable of significantly
improving overall performance, safety and driving quality. The advantages of
this innovation are that in a relatively short time it is possible to
foresee this technology being introduced to high volume production car
models

Further check this page guy's
Normal gear box , you are joking
http://www.ferrari.it/vetture/oggi.e/355F1app.html
PS, the 360 has the same box as the F355 F1
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Quote:


>>>Is there any difference between MS' current gearbox and 360 Modena's?

>>There is no similarity whatsoever.  The F360 gearbox is just an
>>ordinary gearbox with an automatically-actuated clutch.

>And automatically-actuated (and linear) gear selection. But still, as
>you note, a modification of the standard gearbox. One hopes that
>future Ferrari gearboxes will drive a stake through the heart of
>manual selection by designing from the ground up for electronic
>control.

>>>BTW, is MS responsible for development of the Ferrari road cars?

>>LOL.  No, the customers are responsible for that, as ever.

>He said "Ferrari," not "Lotus."

>Regards,

>Jacques Steiner
>--
>?Pour russir en F1, il faut tre vite comme Crsus.? - Franck Lagorce
>Remove ".bs" before replying. Supprimez ?.bs? avant de rpondre.
>Racing colors + rasf1 humor: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/8750/
>Michel Petrucciani (1962-1999) RIP

 
 
 

Ferrari gearbox: MS vs 360 Modena?

Post by GUCCIPHI » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>Ferrari "F1-type power train management" means that Ferrari can offer
>customers and collectors a technical solution capable of significantly
>improving overall performance, safety and driving quality. The advantages of
>this innovation are that in a relatively short time it is possible to
>foresee this technology being introduced to high volume production car
>models

What's the point of buying a Ferrari with this gearbox when you will find it on
"high volume production car models" soon?
 
 
 

Ferrari gearbox: MS vs 360 Modena?

Post by Jacques Stein » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00


<snip overwrought Ferrari PRBS>

Quote:
>Normal gear box , you are joking


Dab:

Quote:
>>>The F360 gearbox is just an
>>>ordinary gearbox with an automatically-actuated clutch.

Me:

Quote:
>>And automatically-actuated (and linear) gear selection. But still, as
>>you note, a modification of the standard gearbox.

Then to what Ferrari has to say:

From http://www.ferrari.it/vetture/oggi.e/355F1tec.html :

"The gearbox and clutch are the same as those used on the F355 with a
conventional manual gear change. This is a 6-gear plus reverse
mechanical gearbox with a single-plate dry clutch. The gearbox has
been fitted with an electro-hydraulic control system operated by
levers on the steering wheel that take over from the conventional gear
stick and clutch pedal."

Quote:
>http://www.ferrari.it/vetture/oggi.e/355F1app.html

Note that the cutaway drawing on that page
( http://www.ferrari.it/vetture/oggi.e/images/motore.jpg )
shows the straight cut gears of a racing transmission. A wee bit
different from the helically cut gears on the road car, no?

Quote:
>PS, the 360 has the same box as the F355 F1

I'm given to understand that there are slight differences, but the
core gearbox remains the same. Therefore, according to Ferrari, it
remains a modification of a manual gearbox.

Regards,

Jacques Steiner
--
?Pour russir en F1, il faut tre vite comme Crsus.? - Franck Lagorce
Remove ".bs" before replying. Supprimez ?.bs? avant de rpondre.
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Michel Petrucciani (1962-1999) RIP